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Nebakenezzer posted:poo poo. Wonder if this is a spy sub or that weird commerical nuke sub they were building. Non-nuke, apparently. A sub made for mapping the seafloor.
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ought ten posted:Non-nuke, apparently. A sub made for mapping the seafloor. The AS-12 Losharik is the boat Russian news reported, isn't it? If so it's a nuke boat designed to gently caress around with undersea cables and all that jazz.
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Jul 2, 2019 19:57
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The boat apparently only has 25 crew so they came pretty close to losing the entire thing.
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Ah, that's embarrassing. The Losharik is the crown jewel of the Russian Secret Squirrel navy. It can dive very deep and can be launched and recovered by the two mothership subs. Would *not* want a fire in that environment. The covert shores article linked estimates the vessel has the interior square footage of the average house, with spherical cabins, and a crew capacity of up to 35? Speaking of embarrassing: https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/2018/01/fight-between-ministry-and-shipyard-over-top-secret-spy-sub-comes-surface
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standard.deviant posted:“Papers Please but you’re a supply NCO in a unit preparing to return from a deployment.” That one WW2 dockyard pass to "all areas" for the purpose of "duties" .jpg
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Jul 3, 2019 00:01
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Putin posted:Seven out of the 14 dead are first-class captains, two are Heroes of Russia. That seems... top heavy. Does anyone who knows and can say think this is a mistranslation? (I'm using this which is Reuters)
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Captain Postal posted:That seems... top heavy. Does anyone who knows and can say think this is a mistranslation? This is a purge, isn't it.
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shame on an IGA posted:That one WW2 dockyard pass to "all areas" for the purpose of "duties" .jpg Smiling Jack posted:Take a moment to remember this absolute fuckin legend
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Warbadger posted:The AS-12 Losharik is the boat Russian news reported, isn't it? If so it's a nuke boat designed to gently caress around with undersea cables and all that jazz. That's what I get for quoting breaking news stories.
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Jul 3, 2019 03:16
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That article about not having flat walls due to spherical shape assumes that you can’t use interior walls of anykind and is a bit of a weird quip.
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Vahakyla posted:That article about not having flat walls due to spherical shape assumes that you can’t use interior walls of anykind and is a bit of a weird quip. I mean you could but space is going to be at a premium on a sub, no?
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Jul 3, 2019 13:24
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Arma 2 with about nine million mods, and the file is long gone, sorry. Had to check really so thanks anyway.
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feedmegin posted:I mean you could but space is going to be at a premium on a sub, no? Well, I mean you must have equipment space somewhere. Did they put all that poo poo directly against the sphere or build it out from the walls, I wonder. Sounds like the Losharik is carried by a mothership, so they might not need too much storage for the, presumably, short trips twenty five guys are going to take in the thing. Two shitters and a microwave, no sauna on this baby. Obligatory, "So I heard you like submarines, so we put a sub on your sub!"
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Captain Postal posted:That seems... top heavy. Does anyone who knows and can say think this is a mistranslation? "This is not a regular vessel ... it's a scientific research vessel. It's a highly professional crew," he said. Bullshit. Its a spy vessel. Used to either tap undersea cables or what not. Scientific research vessels typically are not "top secret".
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EvilMerlin posted:"This is not a regular vessel ... it's a scientific research vessel. It's a highly professional crew," he said. They could, in theory be doing more mundane tasks but yeah, it's the latest in a long line of small submersibles for spy work. The spy subs and their two motherships are one place where Russian capabilities are in fact world-class - AFAIK the only other navy with dedicated spy subs is the USN. While trying to find out about subs: China's head naval architect for subs has been arrested and expelled from the communist party for supposedly having dual Chinese-Canadian citizenship
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Nebakenezzer posted:While trying to find out about subs: China's head naval architect for subs has been arrested and expelled from the communist party for supposedly having dual Chinese-Canadian citizenship Makes sense, don’t want him following in Canada’s footsteps with submarine acquisitions. Funny we’re so poo poo not even the Chinese saw an espionage opportunity there.
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It would have been nice if some Canadian officer with gambling debts had sold info related to the Victoria class to the Chinese, wouldn't it?
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Mortabis posted:It would have been nice if some Canadian officer with gambling debts had sold info related to the Victoria class to the Chinese, wouldn't it? It would have pushed them back a decade at least!
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priznat posted:It would have pushed them back a decade at least! I don't think it'd work; once you have the Kilo class, you have a line for saying "and your submarine should be this good"
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Mortabis posted:It would have been nice if some Canadian officer with gambling debts had sold info related to the Victoria class to the Chinese, wouldn't it? Oh it wasn't gambling. It was some sort of MMO or other online game.
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Fearless posted:Oh it wasn't gambling. It was some sort of MMO or other online game. They (the russians) gave him an xbox too iirc
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Jul 3, 2019 20:59
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It was EVE Online, because of course it was. IMO, the real inciting event in that case was his wife admitting she was pregnant by another man, didn't love him, and had married him for financial stability. I've heard that most spies have some sort of dissatisfaction, disappointment, or trauma, and that would probably qualify. He's like the archetype of a r/redpill story, except he decided to spy for the GRU instead of posting frog memes.
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Dead Reckoning posted:It was EVE Online, because of course it was. Yep. There's a whole checklist of poo poo that are big red flags for anyone with a trusted position, but the biggies are money problems, drug/alcohol problems, and relationship problems. Basically anything that could make someone detach from the normal things that prevent you from doing lovely stuff that might send you to jail or that open them up to blackmail.
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Dead Reckoning posted:It was EVE Online, because of course it was. Are you being serious? I hadn't heard EVE was involved, but of course it would be. Google search mentions video games but not eve.
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Kesper North posted:Are you being serious? I hadn't heard EVE was involved, but of course it would be. Google search mentions video games but not eve. IIRC, he had run up debts buying some sort of MMO currency, and I'm pretty sure it was EVE, but the article from way back on the first page of my posts in this thread is a dead link now.
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Derek Lowe caught something amusing: The Russians built a fake Sarin lab to show how all the chemical attacks in Syria were terrorists and false flags. vital quote: quote:As the Bellingcat link shows, though, this makes no sense. You will learn a good deal about the manufacture of Sarin from that article – more, perhaps, than you might have wanted to know, although it’s all very much in the public domain. The parts that are classified tend to be things like “How not to generate a waste stream of hot hydrogen fluoride mixed in with your nerve agent”, and the thought of that mixture should make your hair stand on end. Let’s just say, for starters, that you are not going to run such chemistry in a modified cement mixer.
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quote:waste stream of hot hydrogen fluoride mixed in with your nerve agent holy gently caress
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More on that Russian sub fire; the Russians are reporting that the fire started in the battery compartment.quote:The ministry has now named all 14 victims, and all were senior officers. Seven were first-rank captains, including two with Hero of Russia awards; three were second-rank captains; two were third-rank captains; one was a captain-lieutenant and one a lieutenant-colonel.
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Hah, somebody took a glance at wikipedia and read it just the way its presented. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_ranks_and_insignia_of_the_Russian_Federation
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I guess when you have more captains than ships you have to septuple up?
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Airliners have catastrophic failures on roughly one flight in ten million-ish. Space launches are one in a hundred-ish. So call it about six orders of magnitude. It's a tall order.
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Wow there are no less than four naval ranks that include the word captain in the Russian navy. What a time to be alive.
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We must not have a captain gap!
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A similarly, there are 4 lieutenant ranks in the Dutch navy. 3rd class (equivalent army 2lt), 2nd class (army 1lt), 2nd class senior category (army captain),1st class (army major). Then there's captain-lieutenant (army lieutenant colonel) before you get to captain (army colonel). Such a mess.
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So the Russian Navy is like a Captain Morgan commercial?
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Arglebargle III posted:Wow there are no less than four naval ranks that include the word captain in the Russian navy. What a time to be alive. That's not unusual. The Germans have five Kapitän-leutnant Stabskapitän-leutnant Korvetten-kapitän Fregatten-kapitän Kapitän zur See
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Come on, we have six kinds of generals and probably like fifty sergeants.
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China is expanding its cultural genocide project.
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Captain von Trapp posted:Come on, we have six kinds of generals and probably like fifty sergeants. Nah we just have Brigadier General , Major General , Lieutenant General, and finally General. That’s all there is for generals. It’s the navy that has the weird officer ranks.
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