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AVeryLargeRadish posted:That's not what I said and you know it. you're terrible at communicating your (stupid) thoughts so don't get mad when people point it out
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Home isn't going to have battling.ArmyOfMidgets posted:Here comes the spicy take: For those of us that don't care about Monster Hunter, what does this mean?
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Vandar posted:Home isn't going to have battling. An incremental upgrade rather than a major sea change of a game. Edit: to be clear, I'm not signing on to the hot take, just translating it
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I just can't picture this happening. Yeah, the next VGCs are going to be interesting, in either a bad or a good way. And honestly, I am not exactly expecting 'good'. If breeding also takes a hit then...
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Vandar posted:Home isn't going to have battling. MH World became Capcom's best selling game of all time (from any of their franchises) by introducing a slew of quality of life improvements and generally on boarding new players much better than any previous iteration. However, in doing so it trimmed some features and simplified others, which rankled some series veterans (although nothing like what the pokemon community is experiencing).
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Annath posted:MH World became Capcom's best selling game of all time (from any of their franchises) by introducing a slew of quality of life improvements and generally on boarding new players much better than any previous iteration. Actually, one of the biggest complaints I've seen about MHW is content. MHGU has TONS of monsters from across the series, and MHW's roster is a fraction of what's been in previous games. It is beloved for a lot of reasons, but tons of vets have stuck with MHGU, while others have moved on. Both games exist simultaneously with different audiences. It's actually a pretty apt comparison.
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Jul 4, 2019 20:56
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On top of what everyone's saying, there's the graphical jump. Generations is a 3DS pretty game with its limitations, and Generations Ultimate is a fairly pretty Switch game. Far improved textures, and lighting and such. World is a gorgeous PS4/Xbone game with all the AAA shine involved. Generations Ultimate is the game that just adds to what the franchise has done since forever, World changes so much that creatures needed to be cut (and get added with an expansion instead of a whole new game)
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Jul 4, 2019 21:04
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Annath posted:Except its already been determined by datamining Lets Go E/P that they already did the work to port all 800-odd pokemon, including stats, moves, etc. They're all in LG E/P, just not available for use. Pokemon themselves, as in the stats, their abilities, an individual mon's base stats, etc., are relatively simple and easy to carry over. A ".pkmn" file is just used to generate a monster, their strength in battle, and some other values like Pokemon ID, region of origin, and so on, and in the end the file size is rather small. Same goes for moves - they're just damage values and other effects. Neither of these things include the actual models or animations, and if you try to load a .pkmn file of a later gen Pokemon in Let's Go, the game renders it as a Marowak.
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Jul 4, 2019 22:03
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I already explained this. Now that people have gone as far as stuff like making up rape allegations almost any complaint is seen as movement towards something similar or worse happening again in the future. It's not reasonable, it's just the way people work. It's ok to not like the new Ghostbusters even though also a bunch of dumb assholes hate it because they hate women.
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Jul 5, 2019 00:19
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All of these are good boys tbh. Would pet.
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Jul 5, 2019 00:28
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the designs for this gen are good as hell and it makes me sad that I'm planning on waiting until the second half of the generation to see if anything changes for it because the mons are really cool and good
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Jul 5, 2019 00:52
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Honestly I only care that all my favorite Pokes are in the game (which they assuredly will be) so maybe we can all stop whining about the dumbest poo poo possible
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Jul 5, 2019 02:04
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Nodosaur posted:Pokemon themselves, as in the stats, their abilities, an individual mon's base stats, etc., are relatively simple and easy to carry over. A ".pkmn" file is just used to generate a monster, their strength in battle, and some other values like Pokemon ID, region of origin, and so on, and in the end the file size is rather small. Same goes for moves - they're just damage values and other effects. Neither of these things include the actual models or animations, and if you try to load a .pkmn file of a later gen Pokemon in Let's Go, the game renders it as a Marowak. So you've said multiple times that models and all that are the hard stuff but we already know the models exist and what we've seen is that the game isn't particularly advanced enough in graphics to justify "it's hard" as being an excuse. I don't care if it's hard, cut back on the gimmick poo poo that doesn't enhance the primary aspect of the gameplay if something's gotta go. This is what I, and presumably many people who aren't happy, disdain. There are very few Pokemon which need to be utterly useless, such as Unown, so why not simply work on making them better as they've done with Mega Evolutions? That's infinitely more interesting.
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Nodosaur posted:Pokemon themselves, as in the stats, their abilities, an individual mon's base stats, etc., are relatively simple and easy to carry over. A ".pkmn" file is just used to generate a monster, their strength in battle, and some other values like Pokemon ID, region of origin, and so on, and in the end the file size is rather small. Same goes for moves - they're just damage values and other effects. Neither of these things include the actual models or animations, and if you try to load a .pkmn file of a later gen Pokemon in Let's Go, the game renders it as a Marowak. Somehow I missed this but it owns that it specifically renders a Marowak
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The Golden Gael posted:So you've said multiple times that models and all that are the hard stuff but we already know the models exist and what we've seen is that the game isn't particularly advanced enough in graphics to justify "it's hard" as being an excuse. I don't care if it's hard, cut back on the gimmick poo poo that doesn't enhance the primary aspect of the gameplay if something's gotta go. This is what I, and presumably many people who aren't happy, disdain. I don't think you understand that work on a title like this (or any title) is more than just a matter of how "advanced" the images or the technology is. Just being on an HD system requires a hefty investment of time, because it's not a matter of "right click, drag, run on more powerful hardware". To say nothing of the new resources being made. "Cut back on the gimmick poo poo"? What does that even mean? People have spent the last decade making GBS threads on Gamefreak for doing exactly that with stuff like following Pokemon and secret bases. What is it then? Do you want Gamefreak to keep stuff or take it out?
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Jul 5, 2019 02:54
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It's fun watching people pine for Mega Evolutions to return when I remember endless debates that Megas were overdesigned and looked too much like Digimon when they came out.
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Nodosaur posted:I don't think you understand that work on a title like this (or any title) is more than just a matter of how "advanced" the images or the technology is. Just being on an HD system requires a hefty investment of time, because it's not a matter of "right click, drag, run on more powerful hardware". To say nothing of the new resources being made. The animations for old pokemon are the same ones as in LGPE, and the other 3D games. Remember when LGPE was supposed to be their entry into HD development?
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Most of my frustration stems from being unimpressed with the Sun Moon part of the franchise, and now they're following that up with a serious push onto consoles, but instead of only losing that small feature I loved they're shrinking my pokedex as well. From unimpressed to annoyed, it hasn't been a great two-three years for Shinjobi and Pokemon. I sincerely hope everyone enjoys the new games. I'm just being a big curmudgeon, and I'm okay with that.
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qnqnx posted:The animations for old pokemon are the same ones as in LGPE, and the other 3D games. Except they're not - multiple attacks have been adjusted, there's field interactions and battle intros that were likely developed alongside Gen 8, and also: LGPE has like maybe a fifth of all the Pokemon who existed before Sword and Shield.
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The hell is that ugly gremlin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FIk_0n5RJQ&t=10s
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Nodosaur posted:Except they're not - multiple attacks have been adjusted, there's field interactions and battle intros that were likely developed alongside Gen 8, and also: LGPE has like maybe a fifth of all the Pokemon who existed before Sword and Shield. I specifically mentioned the pokemon animations, which LGPE shares with the other 3D games.
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Just got through the Sinnoh League, and the battles were really well-done. I could nitpick about Ash's Gible taking too many hits during the fight against Conway, or Ash not calling Liza to bring Charizard over from Johto (instead he ends up using Torkoal against Darkrai). But I really enjoyed all the crazy strategies the trainers used, from Conway's Trick Room shenanigans to Ash apparently teaching Heracross Sleep Talk just to beat Nando. I do think it's a pity we didn't get some sort of backstory for Tobias; the other characters who have Legendaries (Noland and Brandon) have some sort of explanation for how they got them. Incidentally, I like this theory about Tobias' four unrevealed Pokemon: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemonconspiracies/comments/6x2eg2/the_rest_of_tobias_team_from_the_dp_league/ My alternative theory is that his other four Pokemon are also Legendary/Mythical but are all crap (Phione, Regigigas, etc.), although obviously that's not what the anime writers would have gone with.
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Grouchio posted:The hell is that ugly gremlin? Impidimp. It was shown off in the E3 demo alongside Yamper. The only thing known about it so far is that it's a Dark/Fairy type.
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Zuzie posted:Impidimp. It was shown off in the E3 demo alongside Yamper. The only thing known about it so far is that it's a Dark/Fairy type. It's also a goofy rear end lil man that looks like he came from DQ and is thus the best poke yet.
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I can't wait for SwSh to come out so I can watch 99% of the people who were complaining about it/claiming they won't buy it/etc pre-release happily playing it & pretending their whining never happened, just like they do every other time there's Gamer Rage about some dumb poo poo in (insert game series here). Bonus points once the followup to SwSh comes out and people realize that Gamefreak really isn't deleting Qwilfish forever.
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https://www.pokebeach.com/2019/07/mewtwo-strikes-back-evolution-impressions-changes-and-sequels Pokebeach's impressions of the remake of the Mewtwo movie. He got a special invite to see the premiere Dehry fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Shinjobi posted:Most of my frustration stems from being unimpressed with the Sun Moon part of the franchise, and now they're following that up with a serious push onto consoles, but instead of only losing that small feature I loved they're shrinking my pokedex as well.
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Jul 5, 2019 04:46
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I thought SM felt kind of slow, but I'm not sure if that was a pacing issue or if it was my 3DS desperately chugging through it
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Eiba posted:What was wrong with Sun and Moon? Personally I didn't like the shift from Gyms to "trials", and I didn't like how few there were. I also found whatsisface, Hau, obnoxious.
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Jul 5, 2019 05:24
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I mean there were 7 trials. Not significantly less than gyms.
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Jul 5, 2019 05:28
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I mean there were 7 trials. Not significantly less than gyms. I mean, technically? But only if you count the lame mini trials, some of which don't actually involve battles. The Grand Trials are analogous to Gym Leaders, and there's only 4.
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Jul 5, 2019 05:31
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There needed to be less battles in the Trials, imo.
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Jul 5, 2019 05:32
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I remember an interview about how the trials were the way they were, and apparently they were added relatively late into development so they couldn't create any new assets for them and had to rely on what they had beforehand. That's why Sophocles's trial in Sun and Moon was basically answering questions in a dark room.
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Eiba posted:What was wrong with Sun and Moon? Unskippable cutscenes and an awful lot of them Rotom 1% or super obscure encounters with a ton of cool new Pokemon
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Jul 5, 2019 05:36
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People are complaining about what's happening with Sword and Shield, but the cracks were showing well before then in Gen 6 and 7.
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Jul 5, 2019 05:37
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Annath posted:I mean, technically? But only if you count the lame mini trials, some of which don't actually involve battles. I mean they all have totem battles. I was just sorta confused you said there wasn’t that many because it was only 1 less than you’d get with gyms. E: Anyway gen VII was among the best games Pokemon has put out.
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I really enjoyed most of the trials and thought it was a refreshing change from the gyms And Hau's a cool dude 
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Yeah I'd rather have something somewhat puzzley or interesting to do followed by a potentially somewhat challenging boss fight in a Trial, rather than just A Room or a room with a dead easy puzzle (or awful teleport pads) followed by pressing A as many times as my opponent has Pokemon in a Gym. Totem Pokemon knocked out more of my Pokemon between Sun and Ultra Moon than Gym Leaders have throughout the whole series. On the other hand, I may not care for Dynamax but it looks like it could be the best of both worlds as far as Gyms go. Gym with puzzles/trainers followed by a big boss fight.
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