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ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Civilized Fishbot posted:

I don't see how Amber making fun of cis women who get hysterectomies makes her a TERF. It's weird, but it's talking poo poo about cis people, right? How does trans stuff come in?

(also I don't think amber could be called a radical feminist because she always talks about how she sees class as more significant than sex or gender, but maybe TERF has evolved linguistically)


Okay so...like my post about it said, what is the implied issue with women doing that? WHy does amber think it's a bad thing?

Because the Statement is "They're choosing (please ignore any of the valid medical explanations for this) this and that's inherently bad" which implies "They're lesser for it" or "They have made a wrong choice with their body" which is like TERF gender/sex essentialism 101. Combine that with her making it said like they just do it on a whim cause "Boo hoo I have menstrual problems" it's a weird TERF rear end take

ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jul 5, 2019

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Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

color me unconvinced, as I think she's being poisonously ironic rather than TERF

I could be horribly wrong, but I'd rather a benefit of doubt given Anna in the drat article

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Victory Position posted:

color me unconvinced, as I think she's being poisonously ironic rather than TERF

I could be horribly wrong, but I'd rather a benefit of doubt given Anna in the drat article


Alright see you next week when this happens again!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


looks like the Amber is bad people were right and i was wrong.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

i think that getting unironically worked up about anything relating to twitter/podcasting/brooklyn/whatever drama is potentially the most harmful thing you can do to yourself

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
It can't really be a TERF thing unless she's talking about trans people.

What is the original context? Amber has always been "weird" about procreation, seeing it as a core part of the human experience and not getting onto the child-free hype train. Is this about that?

Or is she complaining about women going to rather extreme lengths in avoiding menstruation? Which is also weird I guess, but still not TERFy. Both of those options just seem like regular radfem stuff when it veers into being proscriptive; which I mean, is going to offend people and likely get weird, but it's hard to be political without expressing an opinion on how people should live.

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



https://twitter.com/Goons_TXT/status/404414330697170947

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe
Complaining about upper class women getting hysterectomies is a pointless take that speaks to Amber's creepy distaste for feminist issues, but it doesn't sound like transphobia to me.

Giving an interview to a rag that celebrates making GBS threads on minorities under the guise of irreverence is the much bigger tell.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
my step-sister got a hysterectomy because she had something wrong with her ovaries and the doctor said she had a massive chance to come down with ovarian cancer. what a dumb bitch.

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

One of the biggest reasons employers cite for not treating women employees equally is the possibility of pregnancy interrupting their work and requiring paid leave, etc., so for a woman who wants to achieve a successful career, capitalism's thumb is on the scale when they weigh the possibility of getting a hysterectomy. In a better society it would be a fully self-actualizing choice and not a commodification of the body, but here we are.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

sexpig by night posted:

I love when people do the 'haha yea I'm going to Oxford and wanna join the military (as an officer, natch) but I'm a total class traitor guys' act.

If he can replace an evangelical cultist officer in the AF, I call it a net positive.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

uber_stoat posted:

my step-sister got a hysterectomy because she had something wrong with her ovaries and the doctor said she had a massive chance to come down with ovarian cancer. what a dumb bitch.

I mean that’s not the type of person she was talking
About in the slightest.

MatildaTheHun
Aug 31, 2011

here's the thing donovan, I'm always hungry
Just popping in this thread to say I'm loving right lmao

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Why the gently caress is Amber giving an interview to Spiked?

I swear every time I see those Red Scare womans names it's connected to them saying the dumbest poo poo.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?
https://twitter.com/tonybonesarelli/status/1147151044650110978
:lol:

Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

That clip of Will in the Christmas special breaking character to shout "AMBER, STOP DOING poo poo THAT GETS US IN TROUBLE" on loop, forever

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

The_Rob posted:

I mean that’s not the type of person she was talking
About in the slightest.

she's acting like there are significant numbers of women somehow convincing their doctors to cut their wombs out for no good reason and that is something that is simply not happening. so who exactly is she talking about?


:hmbol:

"we have amicably parted ways with..."

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

uber_stoat posted:

she's acting like there are significant numbers of women somehow convincing their doctors to cut their wombs out for no good reason and that is something that is simply not happening. so who exactly is she talking about?

She’s talking about upper class white women generally in the media/entertainment world such as Lena Dunham. The exact person she brought up.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

The_Rob posted:

She’s talking about upper class white women generally in the media/entertainment world such as Lena Dunham. The exact person she brought up.

she had a hysterectomy due to severe endometriosis, a very painful disorder which a lot of the time makes you infertile anyway. Dunham is an idiot but she didn't do it for no reason. the fact that she felt like she needed to "celebrate" it is down to her uniquely horrible personality.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

The_Rob posted:

I mean that’s not the type of person she was talking
About in the slightest.

The people she's talking about don't loving exist. No one is going around getting a hysterectomy on a whim you loving weirdo

Like even her boogieman example of Lena dunham did it for medical loving reasons.

ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Jul 5, 2019

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Groovelord Neato posted:

looks like the Amber is bad people were right and i was wrong.

I too was blinded by my inherent sympathies to the koopa people, our truest allies against the foul Italian.

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:

That clip of Will in the Christmas special breaking character to shout "AMBER, STOP DOING poo poo THAT GETS US IN TROUBLE" on loop, forever

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
I love that Amber pulled some boomer brain poo poo of "I read online that Lena Dunham wrote an article about how everyone is just getting their genitals removed cause it's trendy" and people are willing to defend it.

Like holy poo poo do I have some articles about Rainbow Parties and the Knock Out game that are gonna blow your loving mind.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Trust fund coke addict hipster living in her gentrified neighbourhood feels comfortable enough to tell the left how the left should organise around what's pleasing to her idea of what real people think. In Living Fascism no less.

Red Scare is a Psyop.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

I guess if you spend all your time chumming around with right wing socialites, you’ll eventually start absorbing their opinions and worldview and become a right wing socialite.

Weird.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Gonzo McFee posted:

Trust fund coke addict hipster living in her gentrified neighbourhood feels comfortable enough to tell the left how the left should organise around what's pleasing to her idea of what real people think. In Living Fascism no less.

Red Scare is a Psyop.

yea I think Amber is mainly just reactionary and dumb but Anna is 100% a fuckin cop.

"Yes hello fellow leftists, antifa is bad and white supremacy doesn't exist, please just post guillotine memes on twitter but if you ever take direct action you're an idiot"

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
join me for the next Red Scare episode "Why do they wear masks if they have nothing to hide?"

some FUCKING LIAR
Sep 19, 2002

Fallen Rib
horst mahler go on red scare

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

immortalyawn posted:

I hate this word but really, source(s)?

she used to be on the DSA NPC and was a longtime organizer with the Indiana DSA back when the DSA was nobody, she also has writing, which upholds her consistent vulgar class struggle Marxist views

if you disagree with her views or think she holds reactionary/regressive views just say that and articulate why, pretending she's a secret neonazi or is gonna become a republican is silly, it implies that "real" socialists are unable to be flawed or hold imperfect or even wrong views, it's an extension of the kind of zealous attitudes of new comers of the left that operates on the same bianary/reactionary framework of liberalism

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Matt's also been a Marxist and organizer forever

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Ace of Baes posted:

Matt's also been a Marxist and organizer forever

So were the writers of Living Marxism before they became Koch brother funded magazine celebrating climate change denial and racism.

I mean Living Marxism was probably a psyop as well.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013


I am never surprised when I see that media and right-wingers learned about antifa in 2016 at the earliest and still don't have a clear concept of it but a person pretending to know a thing or two about the left saying that poo poo is wild

Serf
May 5, 2011


i think the issue that goblin looking motherfucker is having is that we do live in a white supremacist country its just that she benefits from it and therefore can overlook that fact

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

It would be pretty funny if the next chapo reading series was that article

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

It would be pretty funny if the next chapo reading series was that article

They're not alienating the rich girl who always has drugs. She's got that pure, straight from Colombia on a CIA plane poo poo.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

It would be pretty funny if the next chapo reading series was that article

imagine if they didn't already know about it and have probably agreed to not acknowledge it, and the names were switched so they didn't know it was Anna and Amber until after they sunk their teeth into it

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

It would be pretty funny if the next chapo reading series was that article

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

:cawg:

Has he been unbanned yet?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Serf posted:

i think the issue that goblin looking motherfucker is having is that we do live in a white supremacist country its just that she benefits from it and therefore can overlook that fact

i feel like there's some mega-irony poisoned trolling i'm not getting with that comment because how the hell can someone claim this isn't a white supremacist country.

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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Groovelord Neato posted:

i feel like there's some mega-irony poisoned trolling i'm not getting with that comment because how the hell can someone claim this isn't a white supremacist country.

She has an old-fashioned definition of "white supremacist" in her brain.

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