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Vincent Van Goatse posted:7.1 earthquake hit southern California a couple minutes back. Epicenter was in the middle of China Lake, which is like the middle of nowhere.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Epicenter was in the middle of China Lake, which is like the middle of nowhere. Yeah talk to the people in Trona and Ridgecrest
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Stultus Maximus posted:Epicenter was in the middle of China Lake, which is like the middle of nowhere. Navy weapons testing causing another tear in space-time.
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Southland Tales was prophetic?
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Coasterphreak posted:What's crazy is that California has been overbuilding for earthquakes for so long that short of a 8.5+ right on the coast it's not gonna do any more damage than some of the thunderstorms we've been getting here in the east. Overbuilding isn't really the right term. There's been a lot of research done in seismic analysis in the last 30 years leading to improved design codes allowing for more efficient structures that perform better when subjected to cyclical and blast loads. The cost has been in retrofitting existing critical facilities to meet those standards. Also your estimate of 8.5 being the threshold is a bit much. Maybe for things like hospitals, but anything over 7.5 with a well placed epicenter is gonna gently caress all kinds of poo poo up.
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My very limited understanding is you can do OK at reinforcing critical buildings to resist stuff but long, thin ribbons of concrete suspended in the air that people want to drive on is a big "lol gently caress you".
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Because no one looks at the front page: https://www.somethingawful.com/news/foxworthy-border-patrol/
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SquirrelyPSU posted:Overbuilding isn't really the right term. There's been a lot of research done in seismic analysis in the last 30 years leading to improved design codes allowing for more efficient structures that perform better when subjected to cyclical and blast loads. The cost has been in retrofitting existing critical facilities to meet those standards. Also your estimate of 8.5 being the threshold is a bit much. Maybe for things like hospitals, but anything over 7.5 with a well placed epicenter is gonna gently caress all kinds of poo poo up. An existing headache in LA right now is the Dingbat style apartments which popped up like weeds in the 1960's. The 1-3 story apartments with the garage [on stilts] on the ground floor. 13,000 or so got flagged as needing retrofit asap so they can be brought up to code for earthquake standards. I lived in one for a bit in Playa Del Rey about 10 years ago, wouldn't be a fun situation to deal with 1000's of apartments with the first floor pancaked. I'm guessing the retrofit solution is to place large forms around existing metal poles/structural and pour thicker/stronger reinforcements. Or just raze the suckers and put needed higher density housing in with modern building standards 
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Loden Taylor posted:Hey, all right, we're on track for Abu Ghraib 2.0, just as soon as the torture photos leak. FTFY.
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Big K of Justice posted:Or just raze the suckers and put needed higher density housing in with modern building standards
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Big K of Justice posted:An existing headache in LA right now is the Dingbat style apartments which popped up like weeds in the 1960's. The 1-3 story apartments with the garage [on stilts] on the ground floor. 13,000 or so got flagged as needing retrofit asap so they can be brought up to code for earthquake standards. I lived in one for a bit in Playa Del Rey about 10 years ago, wouldn't be a fun situation to deal with 1000's of apartments with the first floor pancaked. I'm guessing the retrofit solution is to place large forms around existing metal poles/structural and pour thicker/stronger reinforcements. Or just raze the suckers and put needed higher density housing in with modern building standards That would probably make it worse, the keys to seismic resistance are flexibility along the vertical axis and rigidity in the horizontal plane, plus giving the foundation a way to slide around relative to the ground if at all possible.
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Jul 6, 2019 16:16
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Are basements rare in earthquake zones? I wouldn't want to be in one during an earthquake
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Are basements rare in earthquake zones? I wouldn't want to be in one during an earthquake In the Bay Area they are pretty dang rare. I recall it being an oddity and something to gawk and admire for extra space while growing up.
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Jul 6, 2019 16:35
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Basements are relatively common around the new madrid fault though.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Basements are relatively common around the new madrid fault though. In the greater zone of the New Madrid fault line. But hardly anybody near New Madrid has a basement since it’s literal swamp land that they dredged. Gotta drive into IL or more northern or Ozark MO before you really see basements.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Basements are relatively common around the new madrid fault though. Of course that fault cuts through tornado country. So you kinda gamble on how nature is most likely to take a stab at you. I will say I was on the 10th floor of the math/science building of SIUC when aftershocks hit after the earthquake a decade ago and it was unsettling to say the least. I don’t think people down there even realize they live near a fault line.
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When the big one hits New Madrid again my house is so hosed. I’m insured for earthquakes though, loving $85 a month but I’ll be drat glad I paid it if the big one goes off in the next 30-40 years.
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Richard Bong posted:I don’t think people down there even realize they live near a fault line. I don’t know about Illinois but in Southeast Missouri the fault line is a big part of the science and history educations. In English class we read a book about the big one happening, in history we learned about the last big quakes, and in science class we learned all about the science of earthquakes and the fault line. It was definitely something we learned.
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https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1147380033922592768
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Why would anybody ever care about this?
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SimonCat posted:Why would anybody ever care about this? Because the Nazi propaganda machine in America is making it an issue by vomiting it out everywhere at the same time for days on end.
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Yo, I'll go get punched in the face and have a milkshake dumped on me if it'll get me $200k and a chance to talk to Tucker Carlson. Want that $200k first, though.
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Jul 6, 2019 20:33
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And to think of all the times I was punched for free, like a chump.
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Jul 6, 2019 20:34
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SimonCat posted:Why would anybody ever care about this? Why does anyone care about any current event?
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Jul 6, 2019 20:37
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I did two quarters of geology in college and what I remember about earthquakes is that if they want you dead they'll find a way.
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bird food bathtub posted:Because the Nazi propaganda machine in America is making it an issue by vomiting it out everywhere at the same time for days on end. Yeah it's all part of the "antifascists are violent and dangerous" narrative. That should scare the poo poo out of everyone.
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Jul 6, 2019 20:51
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Andy Ngo is clearly mentally ill.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I did two quarters of geology in college and what I remember about earthquakes is that if they want you dead they'll find a way. Ehh, you can move to a relatively stable area. Faults are literally everywhere. I'd bet you could live several lives in a place like Nebraska and never feel an earthquake. Wouldn't experience much fun either, but whatever keeps your plates from shaking. It's more like, if nature wants you dead, it finds a way. If not earthquakes and wildfires, then tornadoes and boredom. Otherwise, right there with ya on how much I forgot about geology classes.
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Beware people who are or seek to be "in tune with the inherent beauty of nature" for they have made peace with and are fans of life as an unfeeling and senseless meatgrinder.
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My garden is my quiet place and I will throw you off the balcony for messing with my peaceful slice of nature.
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Took them long enough. https://twitter.com/harrysiegel/status/1147655722794127360
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facialimpediment posted:Took them long enough. https://gawker.com/here-is-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epsteins-little-b-1681383992 👀
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facialimpediment posted:Took them long enough. Trump is going to turn this into a poo poo show.
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The Eyes Have It posted:Beware people who are or seek to be "in tune with the inherent beauty of nature" for they have made peace with and are fans of life as an unfeeling and senseless meatgrinder. I can't tell whether to take this seriously or not.
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hobbesmaster posted:Trump is going to turn this into a poo poo show. I hope SDNY drags this into exposing the Federal leniency against him.
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I thought Epstein was already in prison for that, what the gently caress
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Slim Pickens posted:I thought Epstein was already in prison for that, what the gently caress They've been digging on it for about a decade. There are a lot of threads coming off that investigation...Bill Clinton's name kept coming up, as did Trump's.
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Article about the Clint, TX CBP facility near El Paso. Was designed to hold maybe 100 adult males for 72 hours or less, now holds all kinds at far over capacity for way too long without sufficient supplies or services. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.elpasotimes.com/amp/1663750001
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Slim Pickens posted:I thought Epstein was already in prison for that, what the gently caress he got 18 months in a minimum security prison for running a child sex ring cause he was rich and connected as gently caress Godholio posted:They've been digging on it for about a decade. There are a lot of threads coming off that investigation...Bill Clinton's name kept coming up, as did Trump's. alan dershowitz, tucker carlson
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edit, not quote, ive been doing this a lot lately
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