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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Mellow Seas posted:Correct about what? A 10% reduction in rents is a worthwhile goal and I stand by that. Mellow Seas posted:Hey twodot! gently caress off!
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Jul 6, 2019 17:48
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Calibanibal posted:Maybe we can give Warren a chance to fix the plan before we throw her to the wolves?
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Jul 6, 2019 17:55
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twodot posted:Stop being so wrong, and we don't have to have this conversation. It's a pity that this is almost certainly too long to be the thread title
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Jul 6, 2019 18:07
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Unoriginal Name posted:It's a pity that this is almost certainly too long to be the thread title it fits it just needs title trimming
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Jul 6, 2019 18:12
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Like if you actually wanted to address affordable housing directly you could just... build public housing. Not some hamstrung "one public unit per private unit that leaves the market intact" plan but building housing to reduce the costs in the region. If that is a bridge to far and not wonky enough you could put limits on how many units an individual or organization can own in a market and punish price fixing collusion with other landlords with confiscation of property. Both of these would be a direct assault against those with power though so we'd better just move around some numbers on a spreadsheet that will do gently caress all. Edit Oh also make AirBnB illegal. Iron Twinkie fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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Jul 6, 2019 18:33
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Mellow Seas posted:Maybe you should read the posts where i actually said what I think about the policy rather than acting like I'm over here with my liberal loving pom poms out calling it the best white paper I've ever seen. Maybe you should talk about the actual (inadequate) content of the proposal, like Main Paineframe, instead of going into a god drat Smug Soliloquy where you explain the whole world to my poor, misguided capitalist naif self. Having said that, even if it's disappointing that you thought an entirely different bad plan, was a good plan, at least you think the actual plan, which is a bad plan, is a bad plan. That's encouraging. Moreover I will give you credit for changing your mind when the facts change - unironically good for you. Now, having said that, I hope - though I do not expect - that you've learned something and will be better able to complete the pattern next time Liz goes to set up the football for you. And next time before I go and make fun of your pom poms or whatever I will try to remind you first "hey you know she's just going to yank that football, right?" because it turns out you might be the sort who will listen to that 10% of the time.
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Jul 6, 2019 18:36
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Pander posted:Nah, the wolves are hungry and I left all my burgers in USPol, so as a true socialist you should have brought burgers for the whole class
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Jul 6, 2019 18:43
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Calibanibal posted:Maybe we can give Warren a chance to fix the plan before we throw her to the wolves? You fool! Getting thrown to the wolves is part 6b of her plan.
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Jul 6, 2019 18:50
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Calibanibal posted:Maybe we can give Warren a chance to fix the plan before we throw her to the wolves?
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Jul 6, 2019 18:59
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Iron Twinkie posted:
now that's a platform i'd like to see candidates get behind
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Jul 6, 2019 19:28
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Warren's lovely 'I have a plan for that' meme is getting more and more infuriating with every reveal of her 'plans' being just 'can we keep doing the same thing we've done since the 90's?'
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Jul 6, 2019 19:36
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sexpig by night posted:Warren's lovely 'I have a plan for that' meme is getting more and more infuriating with every reveal of her 'plans' being just 'can we keep doing the same thing we've done since the 90's?' Yeah, but it's really popular with Donut Twitter and the "Vote Her No Matter Who" crowd.
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Jul 6, 2019 19:42
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I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on!
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Jul 6, 2019 20:08
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! libs. like picture in your head, a lib. They are donating to mayor pete
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Jul 6, 2019 20:11
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Just to clarify even further: Warren's plan does 2 things: - Increases funding for the National Housing Trust Fund (as an aside, the national housing trust fund was created in 2016, but the first person to propose the creation of one in the House was one Bernard Sanders, back in 2001, for the folks who like to say that Bernie has no accomplishments). - Pays for that by increasing the estate tax, which tops out at 65%. It's not anything harmful. It just falls way short of what Bernie has proposed: https://amp.greenvilleonline.com/amp/3520397002 - Increasing the budget for the National Housing Trust Fund (like Warren's plan) - Incluzionary zoning - Federal rent control Oh, and Bernie's estate tax bill tops out at 77%.
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Jul 6, 2019 20:17
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a republican for 47 years
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Jul 6, 2019 20:17
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! Rich fucks.
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Jul 6, 2019 20:20
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! Josh Barro’s husband is one of his main bundlers/fundraisers.
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Jul 6, 2019 20:21
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on!
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Jul 6, 2019 20:42
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! Here's a breakdown of funding for all the candidates based on their reports: https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race
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Jul 6, 2019 20:46
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! corporate lobbyist bundlers, mostly https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/17/pete-buttigieg-enlists-barack-obama-hillary-clinton-fundraisers-for-2020-campaign.html https://www.rollcall.com/news/campaigns/k-street-gets-behind-mayor-pete-buttigieg
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Jul 6, 2019 20:50
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MSNBC breathlessly reports that joe biden has now officially apologized for his comments about segregationists. We have an APOLOGY repeat JOEPOLOGIZED. Pologygate
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Jul 6, 2019 20:53
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crazy cloud posted:MSNBC breathlessly reports that joe biden has now officially apologized for his comments about segregationists. We have an APOLOGY repeat JOEPOLOGIZED. Pologygate they were beating on poor Joe Patriarchy, a rich white privileged man who helped shaped some of the most ambitious racial policies in America over half a century and now he apologized for any misconceptions, because you see, he's just a poor misunderstood old man 
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Jul 6, 2019 21:16
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I'm willing to give any candidate a second chance. If Biden's next step is to propose some good, progressive policy that actually helps working African-americans... then he'll be back in my good graces. Obviously thats a big if.
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Jul 6, 2019 21:21
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Calibanibal posted:Maybe we can give Warren a chance to fix the plan before we throw her to the wolves? Bernie’s enemies face annihilation.
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Jul 6, 2019 21:24
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crazy cloud posted:MSNBC breathlessly reports that joe biden has now officially apologized for his comments about segregationists. We have an APOLOGY repeat JOEPOLOGIZED. Pologygate Remember when he said that Booker should apologize to him? Also, Biden isn't apologizing for working with segrationists or even apologizing for his comments, he is apologizing that his comments about working with segregationists was misunderstood loving lol
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Jul 6, 2019 21:27
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OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! Hes the living avatar of the educated well off liberal class Yeah he wants to bring back the draft and pack the court in the most useless West Wing  way possible, but he knows 5 languages!
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Jul 6, 2019 21:50
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I was on vacation in Provincetown, MA this week (and so was Mayor Pete!) and unsurprisingly a lot of fans there. With shirts that say PETE or just his face. There's this little ice cream place with a combo of pro Pete pictures/tweets/comics and pitbull rescue pics/memes. It was strange but the ice cream was good. His fans skew way younger. The older gays seem to like Kamala. I saw some Bernie shirts too. Not a single Warren sign or shirt, which is kind of weird in a highly politicized area of her own state.
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Jul 6, 2019 22:40
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Jul 6, 2019 22:42
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Uncle Joe going the extra mile to lock up the fash vote
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Jul 6, 2019 23:02
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Jul 6, 2019 23:08
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they mischaracterized the strength that he brings
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Jul 6, 2019 23:22
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Biden repeats apology that voters too loving stupid to listen to him when he's speaking
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Jul 6, 2019 23:32
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Hell, the real story is somehow better https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/06/politics/joe-biden-defends-record-obama-2020/ quote:"Was I wrong a few weeks ago to somehow give the impression to people that I was praising those men who I successfully opposed time and again? Yes, I was. I regret it," Biden. "I'm sorry for any of the pain or misconception I may have caused anybody." quote:On Iraq, the former vice president argued that Obama still entrusted him with a portfolio that included the country -- despite Biden's now-unpopular vote to authorize the use of force in 2002.  OctaMurk posted:I keep seeing these articles about how Pete Buttigieg is raising tons of money. Where is it coming from--who is this guys base? I have yet to meet someone is who is excited about his candidacy. His political career is, he was mayor of a town I've never heard is and his claim to fame is he let his cops shoot a black guy. What is going on! His base is that one younger boss you had* who despite having a salary 5-8x larger than your department's average would routinely block your raises or any needed equipment upgrades due to "the budget". This boss is also directly responsible for egregious environmental and safety violations, likes to talk in hushed tones about how s/he likes to give "those people" a chance when referring to hiring your one black coworker 3 years ago, and also helped organize the company's 5k run for cancer. He, or she, has also voted democrat his or her entire life, talks sometimes about having a gay roommate back in their Rice University days, and is possibly very concerned about national security**. * an older one that fits the profile is probably a Biden Guy ** got drunk at a company party and talked a little too loudly about "the muslims" Marxalot fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 6, 2019 |
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Jul 6, 2019 23:40
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"If mentioning my friend Barack Obama, the first African American president, is playing the 'my black friend' card, then deal me in!"
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Jul 7, 2019 00:07
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Like there's a lot you can do housing wise at the federal level and you can use monetary incentives to get the states to suck it up and match federal laws or implement things, but Warren's plan is really bad. If anything she's just showing that she'd probably function best as secretary of the treasury instead of being president so she can focus on her pet project of dunking on banks and tech monopolies.
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Jul 7, 2019 00:13
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I think CNN did good here, they made it abundantly clear that it was a "I'm sorry if YOU were offended" type apology
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Jul 7, 2019 00:46
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I completely missed that the other day Biden said he would bring back the individual mandate if elected, which is literally the least popular part of Obamacare and the part that was put in to give insurance companies something to get onboard with the bill
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FlamingLiberal posted:I completely missed that the other day Biden said he would bring back the individual mandate if elected, which is literally the least popular part of Obamacare and the part that was put in to give insurance companies something to get onboard with the bill Isn't that the part that was supposed to prevent a "death spiral" in the first place?
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