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What should the presidential powers be in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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| UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! |
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3 | 23.08% |
| Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! |
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2 | 15.38% |
| Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. |
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0 | 0% |
| None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. |
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4 | 30.77% |
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Darkest Auer posted:Won't someone think of the people committing genocide Yea, all those kids clearly were running their own little Auschwitz there.
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Jun 28, 2019 09:49
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How about we huostaanotto The Kids and leave the ISIS brides there. Is there a more sure way to prove you are unfit to parent than joining a rape murder cult?
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Jun 29, 2019 12:18
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How about we behave like a civilized nation and clean up our own poo poo? Seriously, even if we assume that literally every single man, woman and child with Finnish citizenship down in the Middle East is some incorrigible ISIS fanatic, then all that you lot are saying is that we should dump our problem on somebody else, and that is extremely hosed on every level.
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Jun 29, 2019 12:23
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IMO we should huostaanotto every poster in this thread
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Jun 29, 2019 13:09
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Kaikki finpolin postaajat pitäis palkkaa supon eliittitrollitehtaaseen.
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Jun 29, 2019 16:19
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True Finns had their party gathering this Saturday where they voted for the party leadership. The Master didn't get any challengers, but the rest were replaced due to them getting elected to the European parliament or other poo poo. Party secretary is Simo Grönroos. First and second vice chairwomen are Riikka Purra and Arja Juvonen. Third vice chairman is Juho Eerola (due to party rules, leadership has an equal male quota, so it was either Juho or Sebastian Tynkkynen) So what does it all mean? The women I don't know, but Juho Eerola and Simo Grönroos are longtime members of Suomen Sisu, that nationalistic think-tank where Halla-aho used to reside. Used to because he apparently left it at some point after the party coup. But does it matter if at least two members in the leadership are SS-troopers. The new party secretary doesn't seem to consider the youth organization's etnonationalistic tones that out of place in TF in general. HS posted:Puoluesihteeri Simo Grönroos ei kuitenkaan näe poliittista ongelmaa Ps-nuorten etnonationalistisessa linjassa.
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Jun 29, 2019 18:19
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Cerebral Bore posted:How about we behave like a civilized nation and clean up our own poo poo? se perinteinen sivistysvaltioiden keino on aika kallis mutta veikkan että kyllä suomi pystyy rahoittamaan erikoisjoukot niitä hoitamaan perinteisin konstein, eli luodit kalloon ja tiedot hommasta paperisilppuriin
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Jun 29, 2019 20:30
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bloom posted:Kaikki finpolin postaajat pitäis palkkaa supon eliittitrollitehtaaseen. For once a reasonable policy suggestion
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Jun 30, 2019 10:50
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Triple A posted:se perinteinen sivistysvaltioiden keino on aika kallis mutta veikkan että kyllä suomi pystyy rahoittamaan erikoisjoukot niitä hoitamaan perinteisin konstein, eli luodit kalloon ja tiedot hommasta paperisilppuriin Tämä mutta  -viittaus Stella Polarikseen
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Jun 30, 2019 11:07
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noh, ainakin sivistysvaltion tietää siitä jos ne ovat sen verran kohteliaita että käyttää vaimentimia kivääreissä
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Jun 30, 2019 22:29
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Happy 4th of July. Oh wait, wrong country.
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Jul 4, 2019 17:08
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Happy 4th of July. Oh wait, wrong country. So, no change? Within the error margin?
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Jul 5, 2019 07:59
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oh god who cares about polls there are no loving elections coming up
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Jul 5, 2019 08:01
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Maybe I'm just naive but a party that can jump from 10% to almost 20% in a few months can just as quickly come down hard
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Jul 5, 2019 09:17
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Andrast posted:oh god who cares about polls there are no loving elections coming up We are almost certainly seeing a feedback loop where, if the press keeps releasing headlines positive for PS, of course their polls are gonna inch up. The same works in reverse for the parties that are going down. It works by both increasing response rate for PS voters and depressing it for others, and by flipping moving or undecided people from one column to another. Some countries (I think France?) have or had bans on publishing polling results for these reasons, the problem is that in the internet age it's trivial to circumvent. Of course polls also serve a public interest right before an election in serving as a check against outright stealing an election, which granted in the Finnish context is not a concern, but from a systemic point of view it's a good thing to have. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Jul 5, 2019 09:30
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As the old adage goes, the main purpose of public polling isn't to measure the public opinion, but to influence it.
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Jul 5, 2019 10:09
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Yeah, the polls are currently meaningless, since CP isn't going to have new leadership until September. They do have some power over parties, in the sense CP is trying to save their previous policies like aktiivimalli from being scrapped, expressing that those "solo decisions" aren't what was agreed in government talks.
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Jul 5, 2019 10:11
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Letmebefrank posted:So, no change? Within the error margin? This is a common but wrong interpretation of what the error margin means. If the poll shows a change, no matter how small, it means it's more likely that the polled quantity has moved into that direction than the other.
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Jul 5, 2019 12:10
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Herman Merman posted:This is a common but wrong interpretation of what the error margin means. If the poll shows a change, no matter how small, it means it's more likely that the polled quantity has moved into that direction than the other. Then why do they call it error margin because that's not how it works literally anywhere else 
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Jul 5, 2019 12:36
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Jerry Cotton posted:Then why do they call it error margin because that's not how it works literally anywhere else That's how error margins literally everywhere work. The values on the edges of the confidence interval are also way less likely. Andrast fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Jul 5, 2019 |
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Jul 5, 2019 12:43
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Seems like with no clear leadership, and not constrained by running for party leader, Antti Kurvinen, leader of the Kepu MPs, has decided to take up the hatchetman's role.
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Jul 5, 2019 12:57
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Sulphagnist posted:Seems like with no clear leadership, and not constrained by running for party leader, Antti Kurvinen, leader of the Kepu MPs, has decided to take up the hatchetman's role. CockPers withdrawals for some kepulaiset.
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Jul 5, 2019 13:18
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Considering statistical testing I'm pretty sure it's the sample margin of error for a single percentage, not the margin of error for the difference.
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Jul 5, 2019 14:58
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Meadowhill posted:Considering statistical testing I'm pretty sure it's the sample margin of error for a single percentage, not the margin of error for the difference. What? No, that's not how it works
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Jul 5, 2019 15:15
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Meadowhill posted:Considering statistical testing I'm pretty sure it's the sample margin of error for a single percentage, not the margin of error for the difference. The margin is the region where, if other basic assumptions hold, it is 95% (or 90% depending on definitions) chance the real value sits. If the change is less than MoE, it can be completely explained by the random variation (sampling variation in this case). Of course statistical significance /s.s.) and significance are different, and this choice of s.s. limits are arbitrary. In strict sense, there is no reason here to suggest any s.s. change, regardless of news agency opinion. Joining several studies together, and making a time series, would probably tell more. If the changes are slow each individual step is not s.s. but the combination of them is.
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Jul 6, 2019 16:32
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Letmebefrank posted:The margin is the region where, if other basic assumptions hold, it is 95% (or 90% depending on definitions) chance the real value sits. If the change is greater than the margin of error, then one can say that the polled quantity has changed with (more than) 95% certainty, which is the common level required to claim "statistical significance". Still, if the reported change is, say, only 50% of the margin of error, it's still more likely that the quantity has moved in that direction than the other. quote:Joining several studies together, and making a time series, would probably tell more. If the changes are slow each individual step is not s.s. but the combination of them is. Right.
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Jul 6, 2019 21:25
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Pyydän että hetkeksi hiljentyisimme muistamaan yhteiskuntamme kaltoinkohdelluimpia jäseniä  https://www.aamulehti.fi/a/143d62ad-e0ba-4efa-b7bd-bd08c556867c
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Jul 7, 2019 21:15
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Love Soini giving Kepu advice on retaining support while spending four years to help tank it. Extra funny that they haven't figured out how to sell out properly like real Cocks and Kepus.
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Jul 8, 2019 07:14
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Antti Rinne is so handsome he makes women near her tremble.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377Bl3EgZVo
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Jul 10, 2019 12:22
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so a bunch of nazis went on a kesäleiri and shot at pictures of Rinne, Andersson and Harakka vitun daijut, olisivat ampuneet tyhjiä kaljapulloja
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Jul 10, 2019 17:06
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HerraS posted:so a bunch of nazis went on a kesäleiri and shot at pictures of Rinne, Andersson and Harakka Rottia kaatoipaikalla oli mun heinäkenkäsukulaisten lempiharrastus.
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Jul 10, 2019 17:29
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Political knowledge haver has logged in: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10866664
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Jul 11, 2019 12:13
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old whiny baby posted:Suomessa koko puoluekenttä hokee sosialismiin perustuvaa pakotetun yhteisvastuun koodikieltä. Keskusta ja kokoomuskin ovat omaksuneet sosiaalietiikakseen kollektivistisen tulontasauksen ja avokätisen ihmisoikeusidealismin. Yeah wow I have no idea why no one is talking about these meaningless buzzwords
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Jul 11, 2019 13:50
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Trogdos! posted:Political knowledge haver has logged in: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10866664 Blue-brown alliance on the basis of white internationalism, huh? This could pass for satire of centrism.
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Jul 11, 2019 14:16
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Trogdos! posted:Political knowledge haver has logged in: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10866664 Haven't seen such blatant classic liberalism in a while. Only thing missing is calling private property sacrosanct.
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Jul 11, 2019 15:05
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It's kind of wild to be an academic sociologist and cultural historian yet end up as a right-wing nationalist. "I have learned extensively about all the social problems our society has faced in the past and the history behind them, and I think they rule and should be perpetuated by political means."
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Jul 12, 2019 07:47
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the finns
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Jul 12, 2019 07:54
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Sulphagnist posted:It's kind of wild to be an academic sociologist and cultural historian yet end up as a right-wing nationalist. The thought of belonging to an actual aristocracy and ruling over peons gets him hard
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Jul 12, 2019 09:12
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Sulphagnist posted:It's kind of wild to be an academic sociologist and cultural historian yet end up as a right-wing nationalist. Well to be fair he speaks out pretty strongly against nationalism. quote:Lopulta kysymys on siitä, mikä aate voi yhdistää sekä konservatiivisen että liberaalin ajattelun. Nähdäkseni se voi tällä vuosisadalla olla vain historiatietoinen westernismi tai positiivinen oksidentalismi (ihanteellinen länsimielisyys), jossa ylikansallisten länsimaisten arvojen puolustaminen on kaikkein tärkeintä. Mehän olemme ainoa kulttuuri joka on synnyttänyt yksilön vapauteen nojaavan kansanvallan. Jos me emme voita kamppailua ihmiskunnan arvojohtajuudesta, vapaus häviää. Who knew that conservatism is a universal Western value though?
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Jul 12, 2019 09:43
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Oops, my bad! I guess my brain couldn't process this concept of fascism without nationalism. I mean it's still a kind of nationalism, but it's just broadening the concept of the "nation" to the even less tangible "western civilization", which doesn't actually encompass western civilization but hand-picked ideologically desired components from it.
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Jul 12, 2019 10:20
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