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Absurd Alhazred posted:Who would be the best vendor to get, say, the 2080S from when it's finally out? The best vendor to buy a 2080S from is probably no one because the 2080S is likely to be the worst value in the lineup.
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Yeah, the only thing that would've made the 2080S worth it would've been if it really had turned out to be an 8GB 2080Ti at stock/reduced clocks, not a less constrained 2080, but there's no way they'd unload those at the quoted price point. The 2060S looks to be a great "waiting for the next architecture" card, even though gently caress nVidia for saddling OG 2060 users with "only" 6GB.
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Cojawfee posted:Yeah, I have an index coming, so I'm going to need something more. And iracing is already dropping down to half frame rate a bunch with just the rift. Plus I'm gaming at 1440p, so the 1070 struggles a bit with that. It still stays around 60, but I want more. I'm also wanting a 2080S or something like that, mainly to ramp up the render scaling. But the idea that coming Spring, there's supposedly going to be Ampere GPUs, has me miffled about it. I suppose it won't make that much of a difference in general, but I wanted to run RTX with CP2077 and WD:L, so any performance improvements in that department would be welcome.
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AMD is officially putting Crossfire out of its misery  https://www.techpowerup.com/257150/amd-radeon-rx-5700-navi-graphics-cards-lack-crossfire-support
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repiv posted:AMD is officially putting Crossfire out of its misery Good riddance to that hacky nonsense.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlzzAexgdJ4 Digital Foundry's RX 5700 review is up.
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OhFunny posted:Digital Foundry's RX 5700 review is up. Meh, I would rather just spend $50 more for the 2060S.
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German Igor's report: The refernce XT clocks in at 50dB(A) and is described as a bonefide hairdryer. The 5700 is not much better, do not buy the blowers unless you're deaf and plan to replace the cooler. The most important graph:  5700 is sensibly volted ootb, XT not so much.
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sauer kraut posted:German Igor's report: I figured the XT would be overvolted to the moon, I’m curious to see two things. 1. How well these perform when partner cards release next month. 2. If you can undervolt these as well as Vega 56/64.
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sauer kraut posted:German Igor's report: I guess the meme was p on point.
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sauer kraut posted:German Igor's report: That's the thing with this, yes the price cut is nice, but what will third party cards with non-poo poo coolers cost? They could end up very close to a 2600S, and at that point might as well go for the better performing card.
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B-Mac posted:I figured the XT would be overvolted to the moon, I’m curious to see two things. The XT is not juiced to the moon like Vega or 580/590's. Just that with the 7nm node advantage it should be a bit better than that, look at what the 65W Zen3000's are doing to the Intel K's   
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sauer kraut posted:The XT is not juiced to the moon like Vega or 580/590's. Yea the cpu power usage is crazy good, it gets hot though because it’s crammed into such a small die. I don’t really overclock anything anymore, I always undervolt anymore so I can run fans at lower speeds for less noise so I’ll still be interested in seeing the figure for undervolted navi.
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Jul 7, 2019 16:52
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Get giant heatsinks to still overclock and run the fans inaudibly low. 
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Jul 7, 2019 17:01
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These charts are nice but wheres the Pascal data to compare to? 1070/80 people looking to upgrade left totally in the dark here wtf.
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Jul 7, 2019 17:07
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Yikes.
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Seamonster posted:These charts are nice but wheres the Pascal data to compare to? 1070/80 people looking to upgrade left totally in the dark here wtf. I understand 2060 = 1070 and 2070 = 1080 roughly in performance.
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OhFunny posted:I understand 2060 = 1070 and 2070 = 1080 roughly in performance. 2060 is definitely closer to the 1070 ti, the 1660 ti is closer to the 1070.
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Curious as to why AMD refuses to put multiple fans on and are sticking with just one.OhFunny posted:I understand 2060 = 1070 and 2070 = 1080 roughly in performance. That's sort of been Nvidia's SOP for a while. Next generation you can go one card "lower" expect roughly similar performance, to a point obviously.
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iospace posted:Curious as to why AMD refuses to put multiple fans on and are sticking with just one Because they're using a blower.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Because they're using a blower. Let me rephrase it then: Why are they using a blower instead two fans like Nvidia is then?
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iospace posted:Curious as to why AMD refuses to put multiple fans on and are sticking with just one. Some AMD guys talked about that in a video few days ago. Basically they can't guarantee that your case airflow is up to snuff for axial fans, and the card might drop below the values printed on the box from throttling, opening AMD up to class action lawsuits/outrage. But it was discussed vigorously among the team 
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sauer kraut posted:Some AMD guys talked about that in a video few days ago. Fair enough then.
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Which begs a question: why not offer two fan configurations? Do they have an non-poo poo cooling exclusivity deal with Sapphire?
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iospace posted:Let me rephrase it then: According to AMD, they're keen to reduce the amount of heat dumped into the case. Also I guess recirculated heat won't affect ryzen 3 clocks / benches in AMD demo boxes. Efb GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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iospace posted:Curious as to why AMD refuses to put multiple fans on and are sticking with just one. They've lagged behind this generation compared to last. The 1060 was roughly equivalent to a 980, but the 2060 is more like a 1070 or 980ti. That's without taking RT into account though.
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Navi doesn’t look too bad with the price cuts, but the reference fan is a hard pass from me. Hopefully there are good AIB options soon.
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Seamonster posted:The only acceptable bundle IMO would be $50-100 off a Ryzen 3000 CPU with Navi purchase. I'd say something too about the 290 being midrange but then I remembered it launched at $400. Microcenter is doing $50 off motherboards and Navi cards when buying a Ryzen 3.
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The one good thing is that for certain use cases Gen4 PCIe is actually not a gimmick and can produce scary good results, L1 techs and EposVox talk about it in their vid here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi-_T3vsv-Q Also apparently the "fidelity on/off" meme was sold in entirely the wrong way and instead works as a really really good 1440p to 4k upscaler. EDIT: Here's a timestamp for encoding talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi-_T3vsv-Q&t=559s TheCoach fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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How does this even happen?   A straight-up swap like some of the other benchmarks make sense, where the 2070S wins at 4k and the 5700xt wins at 1080p because of different geometry vs texture shading speeds. But how the hell does it only win at 2k?
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Digital Foundry also had a weird outlier where the 5700 and 5700 really underperformed at 1080p and 4K in Metro Exodus (but not 1440p): https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-amd-radeon-rx-5700-rx-5700-xt-review-head-to-head-with-nvidia-super?page=5 I'd guess this is something fixable in a driver update.
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TheCoach posted:The one good thing is that for certain use cases Gen4 PCIe is actually not a gimmick and can produce scary good results, L1 techs and EposVox talk about it in their vid here:
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That makes sense, it's driver limited at 1080 and texture shading limited at 4k, so 1440p it wins. If the drivers get fixed it would win at 1080p as well. The important part is it's double the performance of my rx580.
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https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1147966074039619585 comes out to $501 with tax in CA. have to kinda reenter the codes sometimes but you should see the final price before ordering really tempted.
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Strong Sauce posted:https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1147966074039619585 Pulled the trigger.
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deals dead. they fixed the 30% coupon
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30% coupon won't work after ten minutes of mashing the button.
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if you buy a staples plus business account for $50 it'll let you buy it for about $20 more... but that's assume they don't cancel these orders (which some say they have gotten already)
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Hasn't been canceled on me yet. Fingers crossed!
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Strong Sauce posted:if you buy a staples plus business account for $50 it'll let you buy it for about $20 more... but that's assume they don't cancel these orders (which some say they have gotten already) Mind elaborating on this this? I feel like $70 more is still a deal if you can use that 30% off coupon. edit: Someone showed that they were able to add staples plus, use the code, then remove staples plus. Links dead now, though. Hope whoever cashed in succeeded. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jul 8, 2019 |
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