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Taeke
Feb 2, 2010


Len posted:

Where did nose bleed = psychic powers come from?

Sometimes it's the ear.

I suppose it's psychic = exertion in the brain, increased blood pressure there, burst vessel. Those in the nose are those nearest to brain that are thinnest and most viable to pop, so there you go.

Like I said, sometimes it's the ear (although mostly if they're the victim now that I think about it) and you also see bloodshot eyes and stuff.

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


I can't quite explain it but the characterization of Hopper in Stranger Things 3 seems wrong. He's angrier and more action hero this time around

Kramdar
Jun 21, 2005

Radmark says....Worship Kramdar

Len posted:

Where did nose bleed = psychic powers come from?

Probably Scanners.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Len posted:

I can't quite explain it but the characterization of Hopper in Stranger Things 3 seems wrong. He's angrier and more action hero this time around

It's weird because in season 1 there was talk he could be the next Indiana Jones, but by season 3 he looks more like the next Danny Devito in a Twins remake.

And yes, there is a lot more anger.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Len posted:

I can't quite explain it but the characterization of Hopper in Stranger Things 3 seems wrong. He's angrier and more action hero this time around

Yeah he's just Extremely Pissed 100% of the time and that doesn't jibe with how I remember the first two seasons, nor does it seem to be commented upon (I still have to watch the last episode though).

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
I think the first time I saw nosebleed via psychic stuff was in firestarter.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Len posted:

Where did nose bleed = psychic powers come from?

Well, the brain's just a giant muscle so to move things with your brain you've gotta flex it like a bicep.

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

RareAcumen posted:

Well, the brain's just a giant muscle so to move things with your brain you've gotta flex it like a bicep.

The gym would be horrifying if you started bleeding from whatever you were working out.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I think the first time I saw nosebleed via psychic stuff was in firestarter.

I thought Firestarter had something about nosebleeds, but I can't remember any specifics. Maybe Carrie as well? So Stephen King is to blame for it.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I thought The Dead Zone so a lot of circumstantial evidence points to King.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


Krispy Wafer posted:

I thought Firestarter had something about nosebleeds, but I can't remember any specifics. Maybe Carrie as well? So Stephen King is to blame for it.

The dad in Firestarter could mind control people with a “push” that gave him a nosebleed. Carrie didn’t get nose bleeds from her power but, well....

https://www.menstruationresearch.org/2014/03/06/the-enduring-menstrual-mystique-of-carrie/

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

Alhazred posted:

On the other hand, a disabled person who wants to die so he isn't a burden to his family is also the plot of a propaganda movie from 1940's Germany.

It was also a major plot point in the show Man in The High Castle, with modern alternate reality nazis.

Wanting to die when you're in that situation is natural, but in this movie in particular it was irrational. He was happy, he was still attractive, he had family and friends who loved him. His main sticking point onwanting to die is not being able to do skiing and poo poo anymore. It came off as very selfish, not done out of a sense of compassion or anything.

e: also I agree about the nose bleed thing. Is it really necessary for eleven to get one every single time she uses her powers? We get it, her powers take a physical toll.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica
It wasn't about him wanting to die in The Man in the High Castle it was about the nazis wanting to put him in an extermination van. It was only slightly bittersweet because his father was the uberstormfurher (american nazi dept of amerinazis)

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

It wasn't about him wanting to die in The Man in the High Castle it was about the nazis wanting to put him in an extermination van. It was only slightly bittersweet because his father was the uberstormfurher (american nazi dept of amerinazis)

He volunteered despite his dadnazi trying to protect him. He willingly died for the benefit of his family, and at least partially because he probably genuinely believed he should die for being disabled. But the motivations are still similar. In one case they want to die so their family doesn't have to wipe their rear end and lose a lot of their free time, in high castle's case it's so their family doesn't have to get gassed for hiding his disability.

Mister Mind
Mar 20, 2009

I'm not a real doctor,
But I am a real worm;
I am an actual worm

Len posted:

Where did nose bleed = psychic powers come from?

This compilation is from much later than the films above, but here’s a bunch of comics psychic nosebleeds. (Internet Archive link, sadly) https://web.archive.org/web/20180617230741/http://www.politedissent.com/nosebleed.html

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

RareAcumen posted:

Well, the brain's just a giant muscle so to move things with your brain you've gotta flex it like a bicep.

I remember in Equal Rites on wizard saying that there's something of a physical reaction even with magic, so putting all your will into lifting a giant rock would end with your brain crashing through your body and smashing against the ground

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Oct 30, 2009

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Mamkute
Sep 2, 2018

oldpainless posted:

In Veronica mars, at a school dance a sheriff shows up to be her date and then they also kiss. Veronica is a high school student.

ACAB may also apply to sheriffs.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

yeah I eat rear end posted:

It was also a major plot point in the show Man in The High Castle, with modern alternate reality nazis.

Wanting to die when you're in that situation is natural, but in this movie in particular it was irrational. He was happy, he was still attractive, he had family and friends who loved him. His main sticking point onwanting to die is not being able to do skiing and poo poo anymore. It came off as very selfish, not done out of a sense of compassion or anything.

e: also I agree about the nose bleed thing. Is it really necessary for eleven to get one every single time she uses her powers? We get it, her powers take a physical toll.

It’s a nice gauge on how much power it’s taking as long as it’s consistent, which it’s not. Flip a van? Small nose bleed. Make some toys move? Small nose bleed. Scratch that spot on your back you can never reach? Small nose bleed. At least have her snort and hack up a blood clot when it’s real tough.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Stranger Things 3: It felt like every single episode involved a moment where a character (usually a female one) is thrown against a wall. Please come up with a new way for a villain to show their strength.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Henchman of Santa posted:

Stranger Things 3: It felt like every single episode involved a moment where a character (usually a female one) is thrown against a wall. Please come up with a new way for a villain to show their strength.

There should be convenient free weights in every room for the monster to do bench presses with.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Worf exists so that the Alien of the Week can establish their bona fides by kicking the poo poo out of him, so surely you could just smack Hopper around to show how Big and Bad you are.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




yeah I eat rear end posted:


Wanting to die when you're in that situation is natural

Is it though?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Alhazred posted:

Is it though?

wanting to die in any situation is perfectly natural

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Henchman of Santa posted:

Stranger Things 3: It felt like every single episode involved a moment where a character (usually a female one) is thrown against a wall. Please come up with a new way for a villain to show their strength.

That reminds me of I, Tonya where it seemed like Margot Robbie had her head put through a glass picture frame on a wall every eight minutes.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Pope Corky the IX posted:

That reminds me of I, Tonya where it seemed like Margot Robbie had her head put through a glass picture frame on a wall every eight minutes.

every biopic has this

including biopic of fake people A Star is Born

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Henchman of Santa posted:

Stranger Things 3: It felt like every single episode involved a moment where a character (usually a female one) is thrown against a wall. Please come up with a new way for a villain to show their strength.

Characters with Regeneration superpower exist solely for this, to get shredded by a villain and show how tough they are.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

BiggerBoat posted:

I've seen a couple of movies recently where a passenger shoots the driver of a car and even though blood splats all over the window, the window itself doesn't break, which seems unlikely. Reminds me of Pesci killing the old lady in Casino when he wraps his arm around her head before shooting her. Bullet should have went right through his forearm.

Nah, those were like .22 shorts. Just bounce around inside the skull.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Memento posted:

Worf exists in Next Generation so that the Alien of the Week can establish their bona fides by kicking the poo poo out of him, so surely you could just smack Hopper around to show how Big and Bad you are.

Fixed, no charge.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Phanatic posted:

Nah, those were like .22 shorts. Just bounce around inside the skull.

Old lady skulls aren’t tough enough to risk it.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Torquemada posted:

Old lady skulls aren’t tough enough to risk it.

People get more hard headed as they age.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

BiggerBoat posted:

I've seen a couple of movies recently where a passenger shoots the driver of a car and even though blood splats all over the window, the window itself doesn't break, which seems unlikely. Reminds me of Pesci killing the old lady in Casino when he wraps his arm around her head before shooting her. Bullet should have went right through his forearm.

I totally don’t remember Pesci killing an old lady in that

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Alan Smithee posted:

I totally don’t remember Pesci killing an old lady in that

It's one of those quick 10 second scenes where it's like "and here's one of the gangsters graphically murdering someone, apropos of nothing" that Scorsese and his imitators like to throw in. There's some indirectly related plot reason why they kill her but who can remember that poo poo.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Basebf555 posted:

It's one of those quick 10 second scenes where it's like "and here's one of the gangsters graphically murdering someone, apropos of nothing" that Scorsese and his imitators like to throw in. There's some indirectly related plot reason why they kill her but who can remember that poo poo.

It's not an out of nowhere thing, it's based on reality. The squeaky clean dude they set up as the casino president is Phillip Green, played by Kevin Pollack. As he's becoming more of a public face, a woman who he was partners with in a law firm years ago comes forward to take her fair share. After a trial, she's awarded the ability to look at the books of the casino, which is when Nicky (Joe Pesci) is given orders to just take care of her by shooting her in the head.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I just love that lefty Lefkowicz somehow survived all that irl and likes to play his table games even though he’s technically banned from every casino for some reason even though he was the drat beverage commissioner in that town

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
Say what you want about Charlie M, the dude inspires loyalty in his business associates.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
YOU MAKE ME POP YOUR FUCKIN' EYE OUT OF YOUR HEAD TO PROTECT THAT PIECE OF poo poo CHARLIE M YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Pope Corky the IX posted:

It's not an out of nowhere thing, it's based on reality. The squeaky clean dude they set up as the casino president is Phillip Green, played by Kevin Pollack. As he's becoming more of a public face, a woman who he was partners with in a law firm years ago comes forward to take her fair share. After a trial, she's awarded the ability to look at the books of the casino, which is when Nicky (Joe Pesci) is given orders to just take care of her by shooting her in the head.

I mean, I think the explanation kinda goes to my point, which is that the intricacies of why this particular woman has to die aren't as important as having a scene where Joe Pesci disturbingly kills someone.

I rewatched Goodfellas recently, and there's a similar scene where Pesci kills Samuel L. Jackson. It's like, yea ok there's a plot reason for it to happen but Jackson's character barely appears in the movie at all and by the time Pesci is graphically blowing his brains out it's easy to have completely forgotten who he even is.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Basebf555 posted:

I mean, I think the explanation kinda goes to my point, which is that the intricacies of why this particular woman has to die aren't as important as having a scene where Joe Pesci disturbingly kills someone.

I rewatched Goodfellas recently, and there's a similar scene where Pesci kills Samuel L. Jackson. It's like, yea ok there's a plot reason for it to happen but Jackson's character barely appears in the movie at all and by the time Pesci is graphically blowing his brains out it's easy to have completely forgotten who he even is.

I know what you're getting at, and I normally agree, but usually true life epic Scorcese films have a ridiculous amount of characters to keep track of, and sometimes some of them get the shaft. I know the character you're talking about in Goodfellas, and even in real life, his whole thing was that he was a musician and getaway driver that frequented those clubs. They tasked him with the Lufthansa Heist and he was fine until he decided to get hosed up and hosed while leaving the truck in plain view. By the time Pesci visited him to kill him, the cops already had the truck.

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Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
It's almost like big criminal conspiracies cause an inordinate amount of collateral damage when things go pear shaped.

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