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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Scout - Stock I usually stick to this but swap out the bat for the fish because, c'mon, fish. Scattergun is just great; everything else can be good but is too situational. It's probably one of my favorite weapons in the game overall.
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:In my horrible opinion it’s the following for “try harding:” I think pyro and soldier have lots more options than you're giving credit to. Soldier backpacks are very useful, especially the passive healing on the Conch, and degreaser is probably one of the weaker pyro primaries now. I usually run stock/conch/whip for soldier and backburner/scorch/powerjack for pyro, but I'll mix that up occasionally, especially swapping out soldier primaries situationally.
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I run jetpack/backburner on pyro because I'm a huge rear end in a top hat.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I think pyro and soldier have lots more options than you're giving credit to. Soldier backpacks are very useful, especially the passive healing on the Conch, and degreaser is probably one of the weaker pyro primaries now. stock/stock/whip is my soldier go-to roaming backburner flaregun rake pyro is my nirvana i can nail most flares so i never fell in love with scorch shot but will check it out again
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I love this game and it makes me happy the thread is getting active again.
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If you're really tryharding with the scout you'll run the basher, just in case you need to help a medic build uber. It's not like it's got a downside. Sniper should always bring the Bushwacka if you're bringing Jarate, being able to go for guaranteed melee crits is a really useful defensive option. The fire downside is meaningless unless you're getting hassled by a flare gun pyro - it's not like having the regular knife will save you if a pyro catches you at close range. I don't agree with everything else on the list, but honestly for the rest of them they really are sidegrades that are better in some situations but worse in others, and it's your responsibility to identify when you're in a situation where a different choice might be useful. (e.g., if you're a soldier holding Gravel Pit roof, Cow Mangler + Concherer is a legit choice that means you don't need to drop down to replenish health or ammo).
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Otacon posted:stock/stock/whip is my soldier go-to The knockback on direct scorch shot hits is the real joy of that weapon. Great way to ruin a spy's backstab attempt or derail an uber by making the med take a different path without the target realizing.
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Simsmagic posted:the biggest crime with this game is that the last comic is probably never coming out
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psyman posted:I wish Valve had created a few more CTF maps in line with the original spy base theme (mundane buildings up top, high-tech lair underground), I would love a new 2Fort or simply more creative and interactive base vs. base maps. I really like the Frontline! community pack and it really is what my vision for what tf3 would be. https://youtu.be/ThnDDrjxLj4
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Jabor posted:Sniper should always bring the Bushwacka if you're bringing Jarate, being able to go for guaranteed melee crits is a really useful defensive option. The fire downside is meaningless unless you're getting hassled by a flare gun pyro - it's not like having the regular knife will save you if a pyro catches you at close range. They actually changed the downside a while back (2015 according to the wiki?? how has it been 4 years). Instead of +20% fire vulnerability, it's +20% damage vulnerability while active, so there's almost no reason not to run it. Any times that you're actually needing to pull it out, you're probably dead if you don't land the first melee (or two) anyway. Shame too, I really enjoyed getting the bonus +20% damage when firework counter-sniping with my Detonator... 
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I agree with the iron bomber, Buswacka, and I don’t know about any of the pyro changes because I rarely play pyro, so I could be completely wrong. I’d still argue the Soldier is best with stock, gunboats or shotgun and escape plan. The backpacks are kind of gimmicks that I don’t think add to the always usefulness of the gunboats or shotgun. In comp 6s the Cow Mangler could be switched out, but I hate the effects of it and rarely use it.
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i used to very regularly topscore as heavy or the soldier using purely the stock shotgun (& rocket jumper as soldier) to the point where people would accuse me of hacking, so i can personally say that it's still one of the most useful shotguns i've ever put to use in a videogame and if someone still wants to spend time in tf2 i would say that getting friendly with the thing will not steer you wrong
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Jetpack/Back burner(or stock) is the only way to play pyro on Hightower
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also as a general tip that applies to the shotgun along with other things that do burst damage is to not try and 'follow' opponents with your crosshairs because you'll have to constantly overcompensate and keep track of where you're pointing at any given moment. instead, 'flick' your aim at where they are when you want to shoot but don't keep your sights targeted on them the entire time. in retrospect this might explain why some people thought i was hacking and then spectated me because it probably looks really weird from the outside to see someone's character model jerk around like that.
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I miss the old scorch shot bug that let you knock your own teammates around if you hit them from the right angle. It was fun bullying my own team's snipers on the 2Fort battlements and then swapping teams and doing the same to their snipers when they inevitably headshot me
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Jul 9, 2019 20:44
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Tf2 always had the funnest griefs
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Also getting good with the shotgun makes you better with 4/9 classes, 5 if you count heavy.
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I miss siN's videos. Their last upload was over 2 years ago. 
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The meta now is to heal somebody for .5 seconds and then pulling out the crossbow and missing the bolt anyway.
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ArfJason posted:Tf2 always had the funnest griefs Playing cloak and dagger spy, disguising as scout, hiding around the enemy sniper, and hitting "nice shot!" every time they fired was my favorite. After a couple they'd start saying "thanks!" in return, and then a little while after they'd start getting upset
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I really miss running a stupid gimmick for a couple hours on the same server, with mostly the same population living around and adapting to it over the course of my play session. Sometimes I convinced other people to do it with me, and it wouldn't take long before my entire team had been talked into running SMG-only sniper or something, and then the enemy team would be briefly confused before organizing their own response-gimmick of all engineers or something. It wouldn't have been fun to have the whole server running that nonsense every game, but personally convincing an entire server to stop playing the game normally and just start doing stupid bullshit was an incredible feeling
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This is applicable to literally any competitive game with allchat, but my favorite thing 0 effort 'grief' to do in TF2 is to just spew insults (limp-wristed ones are preferable) at nobody in particular when nothing is going on. Like, between rounds or just whenever there's a lull in the game, but you have to make sure that nobody could be correct in thinking that you actually insulting them. So, SO many people have enormous persecution complexes and will think you're talking to them and go absolutely nuclear over these perceived insults towards them. Even better if you have a buddy on the server that you can retroactively say you were insulting so they look extra dumb for getting mad. It's hysterical when it works, which is often.
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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:This is applicable to literally any competitive game with allchat, but my favorite thing 0 effort 'grief' to do in TF2 is to just spew insults (limp-wristed ones are preferable) at nobody in particular when nothing is going on. Like, between rounds or just whenever there's a lull in the game, but you have to make sure that nobody could be correct in thinking that you actually insulting them. So, SO many people have enormous persecution complexes and will think you're talking to them and go absolutely nuclear over these perceived insults towards them. Even better if you have a buddy on the server that you can retroactively say you were insulting so they look extra dumb for getting mad. It's hysterical when it works, which is often. I'm admittedly conflicted about this, cause it is funny to see it done to other people, but having been on the receiving end of it as well, I can definitely say it is an infuriating experience at best, and at it's worst it can be downright spirit breaking Basically I've come to the opinion through my years of playing this game that one should normally only engage in long form griefing if your target has done something to deserve it(basically the Bugs Bunny approach)
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Being kind is the best troll, and truly a large portion of players have no idea how to handle it. I own my opponents with sincerity and respect.
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Taunting after a random crit evens out the sides. It leaves you open and if you dont die in that time the crit was deserved.
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Galaxander posted:Being kind is the best troll, and truly a large portion of players have no idea how to handle it. this is also true. complimenting the play of whoever killed you consistently gets people really riled up it's funny and also a great way to avoid falling into an angry mindset yourself
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ninjewtsu posted:this is also true. complimenting the play of whoever killed you consistently gets people really riled up Yeah it's win-win. Make friends with chill people, continue to drive horrid people crazy with no particular effort or pageantry. 
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Naming yourself "I taunt after every kill" and then doing it every time, even if you get killed, is one of my favourite things to witness.
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1. Play Huntsman 2. Kill enemy sniper 3. Taunt 4. Watch them taunt and immediately die every time they kill you for the rest of the match
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Straight White Shark posted:1. Play Huntsman old piss sniper was good for this too
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also good: playing scout and popping people in the back as they walk out of spawn, then take them on a wild goose chase through the back part of the map when they turn around to hunt you down (like you get on blu team's forward spawns on upward, for example). you usually end up winning too, because even if you're not killing them particularly fast if you get 3 people chasing you for 5 minutes, you've effectively killed 3 players for the price of 1 as far as the objective is concerned
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This thread got me to reinstall TF2 last night. I was into a KOTH match in a couple seconds, and it was glorious. Still miss servers, and the general scene before contracts and whatnot, but the core game is just so, so nice still. W+M1 for Lyfe.
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I like when you are dominating a sniper they will do the dumbest poo poo just so they can get that revenge. They throw all self preservation out the window. "gently caress that guy is down there and i already burned my jarate. Better jump down there and try to melee them." Why do peaople who get the worst tunnel vision play sniper.
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Hihohe posted:Why do peaople who get the worst tunnel vision play sniper. It's because they hit m2
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My favourite way to respond to people getting mad in chat is the classic "you are just mad because you are angry". Also, I still see a lot of gimmick-ing in Casual! One time I escorted a group of about four or five scope-walking Classic Snipers to the front lines as Soldier with the whip. We somehow ended up winning that game. EDIT: Found a screenshot  This was before I unboxed an unusual war paint with the hot effect and put it on a whip Butt Detective fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jul 10, 2019 |
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The only way to play is to pubstomp and not say a single word to anybody.
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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:This is applicable to literally any competitive game with allchat, but my favorite thing 0 effort 'grief' to do in TF2 is to just spew insults (limp-wristed ones are preferable) at nobody in particular when nothing is going on. Like, between rounds or just whenever there's a lull in the game, but you have to make sure that nobody could be correct in thinking that you actually insulting them. So, SO many people have enormous persecution complexes and will think you're talking to them and go absolutely nuclear over these perceived insults towards them. Even better if you have a buddy on the server that you can retroactively say you were insulting so they look extra dumb for getting mad. It's hysterical when it works, which is often. My wife used to tell me stories about how her brother would play various online games, and his then-girlfriend (they're married now) would wear the headset and just insult the hell out of everyone else.
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Roth posted:The only way to play is to pubstomp and not say a single word to anybody. big fan of this one too
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bowmore posted:is there like a list of the best loadouts per class? These days, the stock stuff is usually the best general choice, with the unlocks being sidegrades that open up new play options but sacrifice versatility. The big exception to that is melee weapons, since the stock ones don't do anything but hit people and most classes are almost never going to use melee weapons for hitting people. That said, "best" is relative, and the differences are usually pretty minor, so just use whatever fits your playstyle and the situation. I wish I could still play this game, but I stopped for a while when Overwatch was new and now I get motion sickness if I play TF2 for more than half an hour. I hate my dumb broken brain sometimes
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I play 3 classes mostly: Scout - Stock - winger - Stock Soldier - Original - Gun boats - Stock Demo - Iron Bomber - Sticky jumper - Stock The winger is a straight upgrade on the pistol for me. You can jump on to much higher places. Like the crates on gran, you can get positioning on people way easier. The original is weird to start with but fires from the middle which makes rocket jumping much more consistent. The gun boats let you jump. I mainly just piss around on demo on badwater. It has such a high sky box that you can sticky jumper out of spawn and take out sentries and just generally get behind the red team and piss them off. I'm not sure I would recommend this load out to a newer player as you have to be able to know jumps and hit pipes. If you can do this go for it though, really fun. I should probably add that all this stuff is just situational because of the maps I play. Jippa fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jul 10, 2019 |
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