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Yvonmukluk posted:I have a few questions about Black Cat, though: 1)It wasn't... but it is now. 2) Xander actually shows up the issue after Doc and Clea return from colonial times, in Doctor Strange #19, and sticks around for a couple issues to get his rear end whipped. 
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:1)It wasn't... but it is now. Does...does this mean I win a No-Prize?
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Jul 10, 2019 18:44
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I don't think I have the authority do so 
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Jul 10, 2019 19:23
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Black Cat #2 continued the strong start, great stuff. I'm really enjoying how much personality everyone has, which is a hallmark of MacKay's writing, and the visuals were top-notch in the Sanctum Sanctorum. The only knock against this issue was the lack of another Nao Fuji backup.  Al Ewing crushed it on the Weapon Hex Annual, which is both an excellent story so far, and an incredible collection of portmanteaus and event name puns. Plus, the Valkyrie teaser in WotR Omega #1 was great stuff too and I was really impressed with the whole issue, the teasers were very interesting. Echoing that the MJ plot was really clever as a way for her to shine in ASM #25. Also, that 2099 reveal was genuinely surprising! Strong week so far!
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Jul 10, 2019 21:15
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Anybody read that Weapon Plus book?
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Jul 10, 2019 22:05
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black cat still fun but good lord please no more covers that direct your eyes straight into her boobs
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Open Marriage Night posted:Anybody read that Weapon Plus book? Eh, just kind of a low-wattage, bloody team-up book. Hard not to imagine that were it written even ten years ago, Cap would spend the whole thing angry as hell about how many people get chopped up.
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Yvonmukluk posted:So ASM #25 came out today and it was amazing. I couldn't agree more. I feel like the Spencer run of ASM really picked up with Hunted and I'm super interested to see what's next. Also, the bot written story got more than a few honest laughs from me. I mean... 
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on what's going on with Miles
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site posted:black cat still fun but good lord please no more covers that direct your eyes straight into her boobs my name is j. scott campbell and i'm here to say i draw titties in a real big way e: actually this raises a question i've had, how much say does a writer or interior artist actually have in the covers of the books?
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Jul 11, 2019 01:16
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Metalshark posted:Plus, the Valkyrie teaser in WotR Omega #1 was great stuff too and I was really impressed with the whole issue, the teasers were very interesting. Valkyrie was the best part of the issue, looking forward to that book. It seems like they set up Daredevil to lead directly into Zdarsky's run.
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Marvel Last of Us. https://twitter.com/ComicBook/status/1149074687017783298
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Jul 11, 2019 04:24
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Both Thor and WotR Omega were pretty good. I was glad to see Lisa again and I hope she is part of Jane's supporting cast in her book. I hope the batons show up in Chip's Daredevil run.
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Kabraxis posted:I couldn't agree more. I feel like the Spencer run of ASM really picked up with Hunted and I'm super interested to see what's next. Also, the bot written story got more than a few honest laughs from me. 
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ASM 25 was great overall. Can't believe Spencer got me to believe he can do a good job again, but he has proven himself with ASM so far. That bot story was great, I loved Ben Uncle and the pigeon thing. I hope Dan Hipp gets more mainstream work, I love his art style.
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Jul 11, 2019 05:21
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Teenage Fansub posted:Marvel Last of Us. "We'll just make our own DCeased! With blackjack... And hookers!" edit: oh never mind, it's just a main universe event, not some side thing...
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Teenage Fansub posted:Marvel Last of Us. I'm kind of enh on Ed Brisson, but that's not a bad character lineup.
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Jul 11, 2019 06:29
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TwoPair posted:"We'll just make our own DCeased! With blackjack... And hookers!" They've also announced a new Marvel Zombies thing
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Alaois posted:
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:None, in my case. Editorial handles them. I follow Francis Manapul on Instagram and whenever he talks about cover submissions he talks about sending them and discussing with editorial so it sounds like DC works the same way. Also, Manapul is an absolute must-follow. For any fan or artist even slightly interested in the creation of comic book art he does these awesome behind-the-scenes videos of his process. And since he typically does all the art for his books, pencils through colouring, you can see every step.
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:None, in my case. Editorial handles them. That's always what I assumed, thanks!
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“Wolverine + Captain America: Weapon Plus” wasn’t anything great, but I give them credit for adding Brute Force, Venom and Luke Cage into the Weapon Plus mix. Let’s get weird.
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So I really liked the latest issue of Aaron's Avengers, and for weird reasons, but I thought it was worth writing down. It's basically a downtime issue that mostly revolves around the Avengers soaking in a hot tub - but notably, they start off with just Tony and Thor, and then Cap is persuaded to get naked and join them, and they all luxuriate together. The first part of the issue has so much thrumming erotic subtext between Cap, Tony and Thor, I almost didn't believe I was reading a Marvel comic. Strong approval of Aaron's willingness to introduce those vibes. Between that and Jen flirting with Blade, the whole issue reminded me of one of those 80s Claremont comics where everyone's just a little extra about flirting with each other and maybe someone gets naked thanks to a contrivance. In like, a really fun way, though? It was nice to see a writer not being afraid to introduce that kind of soapy, cheesecakey feel between male characters. I was instantly reminded of Tom King's recent Batman issue where Lois and Catwoman get naked in a hot tub together, while Clarke and Bruce stoically play chess, and the whole thing just feels like a dude who's very comfortable dropping this softcore cheesecake stuff between women but is intensely protective of his male characters' straightness and non-eroticism. It was cool. Aaron's good, and after an uneven start I think his Avengers is becoming a really satisfying ensemble cast in a way so few "team" books manage.
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Android Blues posted:So I really liked the latest issue of Aaron's Avengers, and for weird reasons, but I thought it was worth writing down. It's basically a downtime issue that mostly revolves around the Avengers soaking in a hot tub - but notably, they start off with just Tony and Thor, and then Cap is persuaded to get naked and join them, and they all luxuriate together. I think this is an issue with Tom King, you know, one that I think plays out in interesting ways in his better stuff and really embarrassing ways in his worst, about what kinds of vulnerabilities are allowed to show up in the veneer of masculinity, and which perimeters of masculinity have to be safeguarded by the writer at all costs. I think part of what caught peoples' attention about King at first was precisely that he even ventured into that territory at all-- both Vision and to a lesser extent Mister Miracle are all about wounded or damaged masculinity-- but perhaps as time goes on it's easier to see to what extent his conception of this topic is sort of pathological overall (see Heroes in Crisis). And I think this is an issue that's endemic to superhero comics and has been for a long time-- if a man is allowed to be shown dropping their guard, it's in the purpose of serving tragedy. But Claremont, you might agree, is fascinating in large part because in his ultra-horny approach to superhero comics, men are also privy to eroticized gaze, they can also drop the veil because it feels good and because they love and desire other desirable people too. Throwing Lois Lane and Catwoman in a hot tub is a treat for an imagined straight adolescent male reader, a figure that I think DC and Marvel have over the decades developed a pretty fixed conception of-- throwing Bruce and Wayne in a hot tub is for a reader or an author that I think the broader culture of comics has more difficulty imagining. I think about this a lot because I feel that despite decades of snarky commentary on the queer subtext of superhero comics, there have not been a lot of good queer superhero comics, and I believe a lot of that comes down to the hosed up ways of approaching vulnerability touched on above? I bounced off of Aaron's Avengers pretty early on, but what you're describing sounds really interesting.
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Ngl i didn't read any queer subtext in that hot tub scene at all
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site posted:Ngl i didn't read any queer subtext in that hot tub scene at all Iron Man: "Ok, just please stop playing with your hammer in front of me." Thor: "The God of Thunder makes no promises."
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i guess ive just heard enough masturbation jokes between straight guys that didnt read like that to me
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site posted:Ngl i didn't read any queer subtext in that hot tub scene at all Skwirl posted:Iron Man: "Ok, just please stop playing with your hammer in front of me." I read it more as a fun example of non-toxic "locker room" talk personally, but I can see how others interpreted it as queer subtext. Frankly, just the three main Avengers dudes being comfortable naked in a hot tub together is notable, but it was a very large tub that they sat very far apart from one another in and they ensured that they were covered at all times, which is below bro-level performative camaraderie in a locker room. Honestly, after serving in WWII Steve Rogers should have no issues with communal bathing etc. EDIT: if you compare this issue to how overt Aaron was with Shulkie previously, I doubt he was using it for any "message", as he generally isn't subtle with things like Jane Fosthor vs Titania etc. Metalshark fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Metalshark posted:I read it more as a fun example of non-toxic "locker room" talk personally, but I can see how others interpreted it as queer subtext. Frankly, just the three main Avengers dudes being comfortable naked in a hot tub together is notable, but it was a very large tub that they sat very far apart from one another in and they ensured that they were covered at all times, which is below bro-level performative camaraderie in a locker room. There's a lot of homo-eroticism in straight men locker talk. Why do you think it became a thing for a while for straight guys to keep saying "no-homo?" Steve Rogers served with gay soldiers.
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Metalshark posted:I read it more as a fun example of non-toxic "locker room" talk personally, but I can see how others interpreted it as queer subtext. Frankly, just the three main Avengers dudes being comfortable naked in a hot tub together is notable, but it was a very large tub that they sat very far apart from one another in and they ensured that they were covered at all times, which is below bro-level performative camaraderie in a locker room. yeah, i guess its just from personal experience having gone skinny dipping in lakes with friends and not having any inclination of gently caress them (this was before i accpted i was trans obv), and watching enough anime where men sitting in a communal bath naked is just normal japanese culture, 3 guys lounging around naked is no longer the realm of explicit homoerotic storytelling to me Skwirl posted:Steve Rogers served with gay soldiers. does that make steve gay by osmosis or something site fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Skwirl posted:There's a lot of homo-eroticism in straight men locker talk. Why do you think it became a thing for a while for straight guys to keep saying "no-homo?" Yes, I was referring to locker room talk and how it is frankly gayer than this scene was to me. The fact that the Avengers weren't falling over themselves to declare themselves straighter than a Hawkeye arrow was still notable, sadly. It's a cool scene, but not one I would hold up as more than a small victory.
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No it's just something I think people forget. https://bookriot.com/2018/07/27/marvels-first-gay-couple-arnie-and-michael-a-love-story/ They even took a small part of Arnie Roth's backstory and gave it to Bucky in the movies. In the comics Bucky was significantly younger than Cap at the start of WW2, so Arnie was actually the friend that protected pre-vita-rays Rogers from bullies.
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just felt like a weird thing to bring up as a counter-argument or whatever in that context. like, yes, and?
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I have to be honest, the art in Black Cat, especially her costume, is really not my thing.
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If people are praising black cat I may have to pick it up. She was always one of my favourite supporting characters.
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Monaghan posted:If people are praising black cat I may have to pick it up. She was always one of my favourite supporting characters. I'm really enjoying Felicia* getting the chance to shine beyond an arc here and there, or an occasional spotlight issue, and it's filling that action & comedy niche for me now that Mr & Mrs X has sadly ended. *The supporting characters are also great.
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Metalshark posted:I'm really enjoying Felicia* getting the chance to shine beyond an arc here and there, or an occasional spotlight issue, and it's filling that action & comedy niche for me now that Mr & Mrs X has sadly ended. I like this Doctor Korpse guy.
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Monaghan posted:If people are praising black cat I may have to pick it up. She was always one of my favourite supporting characters. Do it, it's good, and a bestseller. And a goon project, to boot. Also, the preview for Life Story #5 dropped.
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