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xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Safety Biscuits posted:

Fandom_wank was so much fun.

Yes. Yes, it was.

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Pinball
Sep 15, 2006




I follow a few general fandom memes now, but there's nothing with the same wildly over the top hilarity of Fandom Wank. I miss it.

(His wife? A horse.)

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Pinball posted:

I follow a few general fandom memes now, but there's nothing with the same wildly over the top hilarity of Fandom Wank. I miss it.

(His wife? A horse.)

"My hed iz pastede on yay"
I miss them. Lot of quite funny people.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

I wonder if the Dzokhar Tsarnaev fandom (if you can even call it that) still exists. Are there still people out there who are convinced of his innocence because he's too hot to be guilty?

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

System Metternich posted:

I wonder if the Dzokhar Tsarnaev fandom (if you can even call it that) still exists. Are there still people out there who are convinced of his innocence because he's too hot to be guilty?

I don't know about convinced of innocence, but "poor misunderstood woobie" poo poo is still going strong for Dzhokhar, the Columbine boys, various serial killers (including girls being ghost married to Jeffrey Dahmer, lol), etc. on Tumblr.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Antivehicular posted:

Does it involve highly emotionally-charged over-the-top tragedy and sad pretty white men? Because I think anything that meets those two criteria will get a pop-up slash fandom for at least a couple months. There's a certain type of fanfic person who will show up to anything even slightly topical, write extremely generic fanfic about sad pretty white men having sex for as long as it sustains attention, and then move onto whatever's trendy next.

I mean most of them aren't really "pretty" especially not towards the end when they are all dying of scurvy and poo poo like that. Mostly they were writing about the various different folks. One of them has an interest in cryptids and monsters. Another just likes scary stories. Though I did get to hear about one fic that was essentially "Semen cures scurvy" that made me laugh till it hurt.

Also one of them is really into Hannibal, the rest not so much. Though a lot of folks do seem to like the Az/Crowley pairing which I can sort of understand. It seems quite interesting.

Josef bugman has a new favorite as of 18:51 on Jul 8, 2019

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006

bewilderment posted:

The Ellimist Chronicles
There's a large section where the main character has his whole colony-ship mistakenly crashed into a watery moon, and everyone on board is murdered and integrated with a planet-spanning undersea tentacle monster, with him the only one left 'alive' (but still integrated into the hivemind). The monster forces him to converse and play games with him; if he refuses then he gets put in 'time out' and see his world as it really is, an underwater grave surrounded by the corpses of everyone he knows.

Goddamn I forgot how badass these books were. I remember being disappointed with the main storyline because the backstory entries were far superior.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

AngryRobotsInc posted:

I don't know about convinced of innocence, but "poor misunderstood woobie" poo poo is still going strong for Dzhokhar, the Columbine boys, various serial killers (including girls being ghost married to Jeffrey Dahmer, lol), etc. on Tumblr.

Please tell me there’s a schism in the Dahmer fandom where the gay guys are super pissed that straight girls are trying to get with their gay murderer ghost

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.

Safety Biscuits posted:

Fandom_wank was so much fun.

It was and I miss it sometimes because fandom drama is the dumbest best kind of drama. Like Smallville fan who faked her own death and asked for lipgloss or the Snapewives. It was all so low stakes but high hilarity.

Tulalip Tulips has a new favorite as of 01:42 on Jul 9, 2019

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Tulalip Tulips posted:

It was and I miss it sometimes because fandom drama is the dumbest best kind of drama. Like Smallville fan who faked her own death and asked for lipgloss or the Snapewives. It was all so low stakes but high hilarity.

Snapewives on an astral plane!

xcheopis has a new favorite as of 02:08 on Jul 9, 2019

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Aesop Poprock posted:

Please tell me there’s a schism in the Dahmer fandom where the gay guys are super pissed that straight girls are trying to get with their gay murderer ghost

I haven't really looked into Tumblr serial-killer fandom, because eugh, but I don't think I've heard of any major gay male contingent? It seems to be a monoculture of teenage cishet girls. Anyone who knows better, feel free to correct me, and also you're braver atrocity tourists than I am.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Yeah, I haven't seen really anything from gay guys with a serial killer/mass murderer fetish. If they exist, they keep it off Tumblr seemingly. And I wouldn't say it's only teenage girls. Middle aged women seem to be pretty frequently on that boat too, though they don't trend towards Tumblr, and keep their craziness elsewhere.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

That's honestly kinda surprising. You'd think that there'd be a fandom like that somewhere.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

I'm sure they probably exist, but not nearly to the same numbers as teenage girls and middle aged women into the "poor misunderstood cinnamon buns". Either that, or they are far quieter about it.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

AngryRobotsInc posted:

Yeah, I haven't seen really anything from gay guys with a serial killer/mass murderer fetish. If they exist, they keep it off Tumblr seemingly. And I wouldn't say it's only teenage girls. Middle aged women seem to be pretty frequently on that boat too, though they don't trend towards Tumblr, and keep their craziness elsewhere.

If it's like any other Tumblr fandom, most of the middle-aged fans will be off-site or very quiet/insular, but there'll be a few extremely active, loud, hyper-crazy ones who are constantly trying to set themselves up as authorities or "fandom moms." A non-trivial number of these will be child predators, or be so crazy and clueless that their behavior is the same as the predators'.

I feel like Tumblr fandoms tend to be really judgmental about and suspicious of older fans, maybe because it's such a teen-driven environment? What I've seen is a little snotty and ageist, but it's really hard to blame them given how many creeps use Internet fandom "friendships" to groom kids.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

Yeah. I've seen much the same.

On the one hand, I can't blame them with the crazies out there. On the other, I'm not on Tumblr anymore, but when I was I was generally just quiet and posted memes and stuff for my fandoms, but was straight told "FANDOM ISN'T FOR YOU" because I also didn't hide the fact that I'm in my 30s. They sure didn't appreciate being told I was into Mega Man, Transformers, and Final Fantasy before they were a glimmer in their daddies' eyes.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

AngryRobotsInc posted:

Yeah. I've seen much the same.

On the one hand, I can't blame them with the crazies out there. On the other, I'm not on Tumblr anymore, but when I was I was generally just quiet and posted memes and stuff for my fandoms, but was straight told "FANDOM ISN'T FOR YOU" because I also didn't hide the fact that I'm in my 30s. They sure didn't appreciate being told I was into Mega Man, Transformers, and Final Fantasy before they were a glimmer in their daddies' eyes.

yeah thankfully my fandom de jure on tumblr is star trek so like lmao whatever, kids

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all

Pick posted:

yeah thankfully my fandom de jure on tumblr is star trek so like lmao whatever, kids

phrasing!

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there
I'm 26 and so far I haven't seen much of "fandom is just for us teens" on Tumblr nowadays, but I can understand some teens being uncomfortable with older fans due to bad experiences (because grooming and stuff are real things that have happened).

Usually people become more understanding when I talk about my fandom days in the mid to late 2000's (when I was a teen). Being a MegaMan and Hetalia fan back then was... interesting.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Hetalia had the cringiest fandom

*~Lets Nazi salute because funny cartoon~* :cripes:

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Violet_Sky posted:

Hetalia had the cringiest fandom

*~Lets Nazi salute because funny cartoon~* :cripes:
Don't forget the one time they did that near a Holocaust museum if I'm not mistaken.

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006

Violet_Sky posted:

Hetalia had the cringiest fandom

*~Lets Nazi salute because funny cartoon~* :cripes:

I will never ever ever ever ever understand the appeal of Hetalia. The art was hideous even for anime standards, it wasn't funny, it wasn't charming, it was this agonizing bland nothing in a sea of other bland nothing titles.

I guess they liked the shock value of having an ugly bland anime representation of the worst collective tragedy in recent history, aka "Hurr durr these don't go together!" But even that's a stretch.

Smart marketing? That's really my only guess.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Plethora posted:

I will never ever ever ever ever understand the appeal of Hetalia.
Cute Husbando waifs and lolworthy personifications of cultural stereotypes.

Strike Witches kind of aimed for that but the creators forgot to dial back the horny and, well, that whole creative enterprise is gross as all gently caress.

Hell, I think Ouran Host Club was out around the same time. I feel like it's relatively rare for female-centric fanservicey series to get big so they become pretty persistent when they do hit.

FilthyImp has a new favorite as of 05:48 on Jul 11, 2019

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Plethora posted:

I will never ever ever ever ever understand the appeal of Hetalia. The art was hideous even for anime standards, it wasn't funny, it wasn't charming, it was this agonizing bland nothing in a sea of other bland nothing titles.

From what I've seen, blandness is a big plus for attracting a fandom. It means something can have broad appeal and isn't too weird/challenging, and for people who make fanworks, I think there's an optimal point where something has just enough content to latch onto but not so much that you can't write/draw whatever you want without someone calling it "OOC." Bland sells.

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006

Antivehicular posted:

From what I've seen, blandness is a big plus for attracting a fandom. It means something can have broad appeal and isn't too weird/challenging, and for people who make fanworks, I think there's an optimal point where something has just enough content to latch onto but not so much that you can't write/draw whatever you want without someone calling it "OOC." Bland sells.

That's really sad.

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
My Little Pony is still going strong, but it feels like there's not so much of a tidal wave of fandom for it anymore. Very few public bronies, no vigorous mockery, and on certain boorus you can find an artist, think "Oh, that's very good, what else have they done?" and go back three pages before hitting six dozen improbably-colored horsecocks. Turns out a lot of really good artists got their start doing pony porn back then. :yikes:

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Dareon posted:

Turns out a lot of really good artists got their start doing pony porn back then. :yikes:

one thing that made me sad like ten years ago now was seeing skilled, young digital artists with a lot of potential who dabbled in a variety of subjects start drawing ponies... and then never anything else since

it was sorta like looking through the portfolio of someone who clearly had a stroke at some point

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Dareon posted:

My Little Pony is still going strong, but it feels like there's not so much of a tidal wave of fandom for it anymore. Very few public bronies, no vigorous mockery, and on certain boorus you can find an artist, think "Oh, that's very good, what else have they done?" and go back three pages before hitting six dozen improbably-colored horsecocks. Turns out a lot of really good artists got their start doing pony porn back then. :yikes:

Is that really surprising? Ten years ago it would have been a bunch of anthro animal porn, because furries apparently have infinite spending money and thirst.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there

Plethora posted:

I will never ever ever ever ever understand the appeal of Hetalia. The art was hideous even for anime standards, it wasn't funny, it wasn't charming, it was this agonizing bland nothing in a sea of other bland nothing titles.

I guess they liked the shock value of having an ugly bland anime representation of the worst collective tragedy in recent history, aka "Hurr durr these don't go together!" But even that's a stretch.

Smart marketing? That's really my only guess.

The comic did ditch most WWII stuff by 2010-2011 and the author quietly disowned some (but not all) of the most problematic early strips. The Holocaust pic was the loving worst thing, should have never happened in the first place, and what can I say about it but YIKES, but at the very least most of the fandom found it appalling even back then and the cosplayers apologized immediately.

Trust me, we all mocked the art even back then.

The fandom (what remains of it, anyway) has chilled out considerably since it's heyday between 2008-2010. I guess it's in part because there haven't been new updates for like the past year or two (and it may never update again), so most have left for other stuff and there hasn't been a large influx of newer fans, and most of the old fans have grown up and become more critical of the series and its fanworks while still enjoying it. It's not perfect by any means, not by a long shot, but as someone who has been in the trashfire since 2009, I prefer the current tiny Hetalia fandom than the older one.

It's kinda hard to explain the appeal of it, tbh. Many of us agree that it's one of those cases where people join in because of the possibilities that the work offers rather than the work itself. There are fans who check the series maybe once to get the feel of the characters and then stick to fanworks only. The comic and anime are so scatterbrained and loose that many saw it as an opportunity to play with its core concepts. Like: what would the characters do in more historically accurate situations; how are they born and how do they die; why the Ottoman Empire and Turkey are the same person, but Ancient Greece and Modern Greece are different people; how would country X be in the series since they don't have a canon appearance yet; what the gently caress is happening to Prussia and what that means to the other nations?... The series kinda posits these questions, but doesn't really care about dealing with them, but fans love to speculate on that. The best analogue I have is people who are into fandoms like Overwatch because of the lore, story and the characters instead of the game itself and love to play with those concepts in fanworks.

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Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
One of my friends back in that time period was this really blushing prude, wouldn't even stick around for basic discussions of dating. Then she started watching Hetalia and next thing we knew she was writing hardcore yaoi slashfic and out-raunching the rest of us. Weirdest loving thing.

Siselmo
Jun 16, 2013

hey there

Dareon posted:

One of my friends back in that time period was this really blushing prude, wouldn't even stick around for basic discussions of dating. Then she started watching Hetalia and next thing we knew she was writing hardcore yaoi slashfic and out-raunching the rest of us. Weirdest loving thing.

A friend of mine was similar when we were ~16, but with Kingdom Hearts instead.

While I've never been much into smut (romance is fine by me, but i really don't care about the sex), my first experience with shipping was in MegaMan, of all things. And speaking of dead fandoms, booooy has it been sad to be a Megaman fan after the late 2000's. I remember looking at Rockman.exe Online, RPM and Planet Megaman when the MMBN anime was still around and when SF and ZX came out

Also, while not exactly -dead- fandom, AFAIK, once I went to a local con, I learned that there was this fandom that made this kind of shared universe based on some Disney/Dreamworks movies. The popular ones were Rise of the Guardians, HTTYD, Frozen, Tangled, Big Hero 6, Brave, and the like. I haven't seen much of that lately, but it seems they are still around. At least I saw a few around Tumblr once Coco came out.

Siselmo has a new favorite as of 09:01 on Jul 11, 2019

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Dareon posted:

One of my friends back in that time period was this really blushing prude, wouldn't even stick around for basic discussions of dating. Then she started watching Hetalia and next thing we knew she was writing hardcore yaoi slashfic and out-raunching the rest of us. Weirdest loving thing.

Was she a conservative Christian? I had a Christian high-school friend who went from being uncomfortable hearing someone's romantic interest referred to as their "partner," because ~implied homosexuality,~ to raging yaoi shipper in like six months after she was first exposed to anime.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Dareon posted:

One of my friends back in that time period was this really blushing prude, wouldn't even stick around for basic discussions of dating. Then she started watching Hetalia and next thing we knew she was writing hardcore yaoi slashfic and out-raunching the rest of us. Weirdest loving thing.

-To the tune of Tradition from Fiddler on the roof-

REPRESSION!

lt_kennedy
Sep 2, 2007
Needs Moar Race

Antivehicular posted:

Was she a conservative Christian? I had a Christian high-school friend who went from being uncomfortable hearing someone's romantic interest referred to as their "partner," because ~implied homosexuality,~ to raging yaoi shipper in like six months after she was first exposed to anime.

The more forbidden the fruit - also lots of fandom folk have come out as trans men or Non Binary after years in the wilderness of lesbians or bi cis ladies. Turns out they wanted to be the husbandos not just love them in the way only a grody fangirl could love an abstract concept of a person/anime.

I was more into rock bands with ugos and not boy band's and actor types and not anime so I'm not in the brotherhood to trans guys who were That Girl TM sheltered to sex pervert by way of Gundam Wings or Ouran or whatever.

AngryRobotsInc
Aug 2, 2011

lt_kennedy posted:

The more forbidden the fruit - also lots of fandom folk have come out as trans men or Non Binary after years in the wilderness of lesbians or bi cis ladies. Turns out they wanted to be the husbandos not just love them in the way only a grody fangirl could love an abstract concept of a person/anime.

I was more into rock bands with ugos and not boy band's and actor types and not anime so I'm not in the brotherhood to trans guys who were That Girl TM sheltered to sex pervert by way of Gundam Wings or Ouran or whatever.

Can confirm. I spent yeeeeears struggling with my gender identity. And I was really into anime. "I'm just a bi girl mostly into men, very occasionally into women. Totally."

Whoops, turns out only part of that was right.

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016

Accordion Man posted:

Don't forget the one time they did that near a Holocaust museum if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, the Hetalia fandom could be, uh,





Most fandoms comprised mainly of young women obsessing over pretty fictional men get far more hate than they deserve, but occasionally it really is that bad.

Attestant posted:

Is the Homestuck fandom dead yet.

A few months ago they put out a pair of official novel-length epilogues, six more weeks months years of winter.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
What the gently caress is a Homestuck?

Dareon
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

FilthyImp posted:

What the gently caress is a Homestuck?

The best ever argument against the unsupervised auteur.

big dyke energy
Jul 29, 2006

Football? Yaaaay

Siselmo posted:

Also, while not exactly -dead- fandom, AFAIK, once I went to a local con, I learned that there was this fandom that made this kind of shared universe based on some Disney/Dreamworks movies. The popular ones were Rise of the Guardians, HTTYD, Frozen, Tangled, Big Hero 6, Brave, and the like. I haven't seen much of that lately, but it seems they are still around. At least I saw a few around Tumblr once Coco came out.

It's pretty dead, and the 'fandom' was called Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons which....sucks. I think by the time Big Hero 6 came out it was pretty dead, but Frozen 2 might bring some of them back.

People just REALLY wanted Jack Frost and Elsa to kiss.

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Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

There was, and still is, a Myst MMO.

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