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Grouchio posted:Wait when https://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/ksbd-5-86/ She literally ate a baby. Y'know, unless you accept the premise that Devils are not people like you and me.
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Jul 11, 2019 16:55
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Likely an unbound/unmasked devil, like the fuel they use for airships. And even if it is a person, yes, fine, she ate a person. Devils are in fact people. Let's not start this again.
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Jul 11, 2019 17:03
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You can see its little itty bitty mask in the panel!
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Jul 11, 2019 17:46
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Well I'm sure the chicken I'm eating right now had a personality as well, so I guess I'm a murderer.
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Jul 11, 2019 18:53
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Likely an unbound/unmasked devil, like the fuel they use for airships. It very clearly has a mask. Allison ate a baby.
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Jul 11, 2019 18:56
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And good for her. Babies have had it too easy for too long. It's about time they got their comuppence
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Jul 11, 2019 18:57
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 "Unbound ones. Like in devil liquor." However Abaddon chose to draw it, it was an unbound devil.
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Jul 11, 2019 19:02
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yes, an unbound devil baby. monsterous
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Jul 11, 2019 19:06
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No, delicious. Very healthful for young pree!
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Jul 11, 2019 19:09
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
Some tequila is made with snake venom in it. Some has a whole snake. Some devil liquor has liquid devil in it. Some has a whole baby.
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Jul 11, 2019 19:41
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MikeJF posted:Turns out most of the paperwork in the Empire is just tracking to avoid incest. Supposedly there's an Icelandic app that exists solely for helping potential lovebirds make sure they're not too closely related
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Jul 11, 2019 20:24
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ThaumPenguin posted:Supposedly there's an Icelandic app that exists solely for helping potential lovebirds make sure they're not too closely related That does actually exist. Iceland is tiny, significantly more Americans visit the country each year (~400k) than there are Icelandic folks (~330k). And, having visited for a couple weeks, it's not hard to see why, Iceland is beautiful.
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Jul 11, 2019 20:27
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gotta admit I was sorta wondering how this thread was gonna square "it's craaaaazy to read any of the statements about devils being fundamentally unlike humans as literal" and "it's cool to eat a devil baby, it's not like it's a real baby, if the comic says they're people the comic is wrong" but I was hoping for more rationalization effort than just yelling both things over and over
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Jul 11, 2019 20:27
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It's only fair, devils eat humans too.
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Jul 11, 2019 20:30
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:gotta admit I was sorta wondering how this thread was gonna square "it's craaaaazy to read any of the statements about devils being fundamentally unlike humans as literal" and "it's cool to eat a devil baby, they don't mind, not like a real baby, if the comic says they're people the comic is wrong" but I was hoping for more rationalization effort than just yelling both things over and over I'm pretty sure the majority of the people here are joking around about her eating a baby.
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Jul 11, 2019 20:37
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I'm talking about you, genius
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Jul 11, 2019 20:44
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Demiurge4 posted:Allison still hasn’t killed anyone has she? She must have killed several dozen over the course of her raid on the bank. There's a few panels that are just her cleaving through folks.
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Jul 11, 2019 20:55
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:I'm talking about you, genius Ok I guess posting proof of what I'm saying from the comic is just "yelling over and over". I like talking about this comic and its lore, even if the springboard for it is from a joke. So sue me. If it ACTUALLY gets heated again like previous times in the thread I'm peacing out.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:09
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I'm pretty sure the majority of the people here are joking around about her eating a baby. I am deadly serious about her eating a baby.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:16
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And I'm deadly serious that that baby was delicious.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:26
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The point is that you and others are making jokes to try to deflect from the fact that reading "Cio and other devils are people just like you and me" can't be reconciled with Allison eating a baby devil to gain the power of tongues.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:41
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well, it can. she's not a nice person and power in Throne is built on very literally preying on the weak. there's just an extremely specific reading of the story going on with a few folks here that involves declaring like half of the comic is factually incorrect on the events it is depicting, the true record of which is in their headcanon A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jul 11, 2019 |
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Jul 11, 2019 21:45
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Dead Reckoning posted:The point is that you and others are making jokes to try to deflect from the fact that reading "Cio and other devils are people just like you and me" can't be reconciled with Allison eating a baby devil to gain the power of tongues.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:47
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Dead Reckoning posted:The point is that you and others are making jokes to try to deflect from the fact that reading "Cio and other devils are people just like you and me" can't be reconciled with Allison eating a baby devil to gain the power of tongues. It is still utterly bizarre to me that after everything that has happened in the comic with Cio, you think that Abaddon is trying to communicate to the readers that devils are not emotional, empathetic beings very similar to humans.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:53
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Dead Reckoning posted:The point is that you and others are making jokes to try to deflect from the fact that reading "Cio and other devils are people just like you and me" can't be reconciled with Allison eating a baby devil to gain the power of tongues. Sure it can, I'll do it right now. That was hosed up and Allison is not a perfectly moral agent. Boom, reconciled.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:56
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They can be emotional, empathetic beings and still be obligated to feed on peoples' souls to sustain themselves. A bunch of emotional, empathetic beings with extremely cruel metabolic requirements they're fully aware of but have limited control over would sort of tend to produce the kind of culture we see amongst devils. In fact they seem to wrap a lot more of their identity around insisting this is all fine, actually, than the human inhabitants of Throne who casually do ten hosed up things before breakfast by choice.
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Jul 11, 2019 21:57
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I still don't agree on the "obligated to feed on peoples' souls to sustain themselves" part since they CAN eat, but it hasn't really been clearly answered in the comic or RPG whether they can get the flame they need from food or not. Given the fact Cio has committed to not hurting anyone, yet still seems to be sustaining herself just fine (and seems to be obsessed with cooking) I think they can. But that's still my speculation so w/e.
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Jul 11, 2019 22:01
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kill six billion pedants
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Jul 11, 2019 22:04
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I suspect the answer is "sorta, for a while". Everything is fundamentally fire but Princess needs to be two-fisting entire cows nonstop because non-sapient animals are an extremely weak source of the flame, and Cio is pretty clearly not fine or over her devil problems at all.
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Jul 11, 2019 22:05
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I still don't agree on the "obligated to feed on peoples' souls to sustain themselves" part since they CAN eat, but it hasn't really been clearly answered in the comic or RPG whether they can get the flame they need from food or not. Given the fact Cio has committed to not hurting anyone, yet still seems to be sustaining herself just fine (and seems to be obsessed with cooking) I think they can. But that's still my speculation so w/e. A devil that denies itself the particular vice of directly consuming the flame of humanity will always be weaker than one that does not. They are fundamentally beings of consumptive vice. Cio cooks because she likes to.
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Patware posted:kill six billion pedants Oops now I'm dead  A Wizard of Goatse posted:I suspect the answer is "sorta, for a while". Everything is fundamentally fire but Princess needs to be two-fisting entire cows nonstop because non-sapient animals are an extremely weak source of the flame, and Cio is pretty clearly not fine or over her devil problems at all. Yeah, which is all stuff they'll have to deal with eventually. The idea I take issue with is suggesting that it's futile and bound to failure for devils to successfully go against that nature, and I, again, find it utterly bizarre for someone to suggest that's the stance the comic is trying to take with Cio. And same with Angels and White Chain. It'll be hard, but, I mean, character development and changing as a person is hard. Anyway. Like I said, don't wanna get too heated and drop down this rabbit hole again. wiegieman posted:A devil that denies itself the particular vice of directly consuming the flame of humanity will always be weaker than one that does not. They are fundamentally beings of consumptive vice. So maybe she's fine with being weak if it means she doesn't have to hurt people anymore.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:They can be emotional, empathetic beings and still be obligated to feed on peoples' souls to sustain themselves. A bunch of emotional, empathetic beings with extremely cruel metabolic requirements they're fully aware of but have limited control over would sort of tend to produce the kind of culture we see amongst devils. In fact they seem to wrap a lot more of their identity around insisting this is all fine, actually, than the human inhabitants of Throne who casually commit atrocities by choice. Your earlier observation that, if salads could scream and beg for their lives every time you tried to eat them, human society would likely be just as sociopathic as the Devils are portrayed, was pretty spot on IMO.
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You... you guys don't hear the lettuce scream and the tomatoes cry?wiegieman posted:Cio cooks because she likes to. Yes, but she spends extra on organic ingredients even if they have more food miles, so she's still getting that sweet sweet vice.
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Jul 11, 2019 23:20
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I weep for the onions whose lives were lost in the making of my dinner
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Jul 11, 2019 23:42
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Ultimately the story's going to leave a lot up to interpretation and that's a good thing, we don't need a wookiepedia dor devils. All we absolutely know for certain is that this is Throneglish for "I wuv yoo Mommy":
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Jul 11, 2019 23:53
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Organic devil babies feel more pain, and are therefore more delicious.
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Jul 11, 2019 23:57
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Ultimately the story's going to leave a lot up to interpretation and that's a good thing, we don't need a wookiepedia dor devils. All we absolutely know for certain is that this is Throneglish for "I wuv yoo Mommy": Pretty sure it's "Ah, gently caress! That is the last time I go on a three-day bender..."
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Jul 12, 2019 00:12
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baby demons are the unidentified meat lumps of Throne. Meat skewers? Baby demons. Steamed buns? Baby demons. Pie? Baby demons. Pizza? Oh you know I love that topped with baby demons
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I don't get what we're supposed to be reconciling. Throne is shown to be a vile den of evil and immorality corrupted to it's core. You can probably get goblin steaks right next to your demon fetus pie.
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