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He even said he wouldnt care if it sank But im forever disappointed Bryan promised the finisher for him and Tom would be the double stump puller and they havent even used it once
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Jul 12, 2019 12:21
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"People keep needling me." "I can't because you're not around much."
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Jul 12, 2019 12:29
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Lid posted:He even said he wouldnt care if it sank Clearly it should be them getting a guy in the corner and doing alternating chops at increasing speed until they both do the Kojima rapid-fire ones and then the guy does the Flair flop.
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Jul 12, 2019 12:32
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"She's a big one!"
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Jul 12, 2019 12:33
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Dave referred to him as Jason Alexander again in this week’s newsletter.
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Jul 12, 2019 15:24
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Lid posted:He even said he wouldnt care if it sank They've only had one match and it was against the really old Rock and Roll express. This second match they might pull it out, stretch the poo poo out of the promise.
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Jul 12, 2019 16:12
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Wazzu posted:They've only had one match and it was against the really old Rock and Roll express. This second match they might pull it out, stretch the poo poo out of the promise. "Just take those old wrestlers off the shelf..."
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Jul 12, 2019 16:25
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Angry_Ed posted:"Just take those old wrestlers off the shelf..." 
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Jul 12, 2019 16:44
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Juice interview is a nice 30 minute listen. Most interesting detail is Braun had hosed up knees dating back to NXT and they still made him do all the drills.
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Jul 12, 2019 16:59
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obv wwe signs everyone then gets them injured doing infinite overhead presses and other dumb combine bullshit so they can lock them up even further
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Jul 12, 2019 17:04
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1149777117434900480 Dave seems to consider Jim a real friend which is a little messed up since sometimes Jim doesn't extend him remotely the same courtesy.
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Jul 12, 2019 21:56
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Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I don't even understand what there is to debunk about the gold boat. Did he script the rant or something?
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Jul 12, 2019 22:13
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VJeff posted:https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1149777117434900480
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Jul 12, 2019 22:14
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meltzer is older than cornette so of course he's out of touch with reality to a degree
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Jul 12, 2019 22:20
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Cavauro posted:meltzer is older than cornette so of course he's out of touch with reality to a degree Be fair to Dave Meltzer.
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Jul 12, 2019 22:23
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a boat made out of gold could easily float if it were engineered properly. you can make a boat out of anything as long as you make it the right shape.
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Dave, like most people of his generation, thinks of bigotry as a disease you have that exists independently of your actions rather than a way of describing things you do. If you live with somebody and they never do the dishes, they don't get to dodge that poo poo by saying "but in my heart, I know I'm a dishes-doer." I don't give a poo poo what's in your heart. The dishes aren't done.
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Jul 12, 2019 22:39
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a boat made out of bigotry floats by holding down the waters of progress
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Jul 12, 2019 22:45
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Yeah, Dave comes from a time where not being homophobic means you don't bash in someone's skull because they're gay. Not being really just means you don't go to Klan rallies. It's stupid and dumb and a bummer that he's still sticking to that poo poo. Cornette is probably cool to gay people he knows but has also shown that he has outdated and homophobic views about gay people in wrestling and just sees someone like Sonny Kiss as a comedy act.
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Jul 13, 2019 00:24
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Gumball Gumption posted:Sonny Kiss as a comedy act. His signature spot is repeatedly ramming his opponent’s face in his rear end.
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dsriggs posted:His signature spot is repeatedly ramming his opponent’s face in his rear end. Who hasn’t seen an MMA match finished with such gluteal savagery.
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Chris James 2 posted:he's got an rear end of steel That's not a comedy act?
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Comedy act might not be the best way to put it then. My point is that Jim keeps saying that they need to explain Sonny and why he belongs in the ring and that's not something he asks of masculine wrestlers. He also wouldn't use a homophobic slur to describe a more masculine looking wrestler. I think he'd be fine with Sonny if he was getting jobbed out with no offense. I also will say I don't think he's overly homophobic but his dislike of Sonny is obviously influenced by societal homophobia.
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I like that casual Juice sounds exactly like promo Juice. I’ve never heard someone say “pedal to the metal” in real life before.
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Sonny Kiss is a fabulous dude with an even more fabulous rear end, what the gently caress is there to "explain" about his gimmick 
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I would like to know why Sonny is in the ring. Does he like slamming his butt against people, or is that just a means to an end? The man is a mystery wrapped in an enigma.
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Jul 13, 2019 01:14
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Gumball Gumption posted:Comedy act might not be the best way to put it then. My point is that Jim keeps saying that they need to explain Sonny and why he belongs in the ring and that's not something he asks of masculine wrestlers. That I can agree with. Considering how little backstory he gave to guys like Davey Richards & Roderick Strong & Eddie Edwards when he was working at ROH, he wouldn't be batting an eye if Generic Wrestleman showed up in that match without a story.
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Sonny Kiss seems really cool, but if this were any other wrestling company, under any booker in the last 20 plus years, I would expect everything involved with him to be a trainwreck. I assume that is where the initial bad reaction from Cornette comes from. His dumbass doubling down on it though is on him being an argumentative rear end in a top hat.
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rovert posted:
this is the match they were bitching about? it goes like 2 minutes and gets across that nailz is a scumbag piece of poo poo with no regard for the rules. i am not saying it is compelling but i think they may have been overreacting a little the ref looks new japan levels of impotent, however
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Captain Magic posted:I like that casual Juice sounds exactly like promo Juice. I’ve never heard someone say “pedal to the metal” in real life before. I can't help but think Juice learned to talk from wrestling promos.
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lost my old email posted:this is the match they were bitching about? it goes like 2 minutes and gets across that nailz is a scumbag piece of poo poo with no regard for the rules. i am not saying it is compelling but i think they may have been overreacting a little https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1149844262650990592 Hyperbole is kinda Bryan's deal lol.
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friday night and agreeing with rovert time for a long hard look in the mirror
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Benne posted:Sonny Kiss is a fabulous dude with an even more fabulous rear end, what the gently caress is there to "explain" about his gimmick So when you have a guy like Sonny Kiss, he's like, "I don't get it. His gimmick is that he's effeminate? Why isn't this being made clear on commentary?" When Sonny's just being Sonny and Jim doesn't understand that lots of different kinds of people wrestle without making the things that set them apart from what you think of when you think "wrestler" their gimmick. I've put up with Jim Cornette for years because it rules when he shits on dumb things, but one of those "dumb" things was "that wrestler's queer," with a giant side of transphobia when he was talking about it, and now I can't help but think of that when I hear his voice, so I'm kinda' done with Jim Cornette. But I was fair to him.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Comedy act might not be the best way to put it then. My point is that Jim keeps saying that they need to explain Sonny and why he belongs in the ring and that's not something he asks of masculine wrestlers. He also wouldn't use a homophobic slur to describe a more masculine looking wrestler. I think he'd be fine with Sonny if he was getting jobbed out with no offense. I also will say I don't think he's overly homophobic but his dislike of Sonny is obviously influenced by societal homophobia. Cornette’s point was made in the context of the battle royal and how they didn’t explain a single person to a new audience. Going in blind I honestly would have thought Sonny Kiss was an offensive stereotype gimmick too to be honest, and I’m saying this as a gay guy who doesn’t put a lot of trust in how wrestling handles LGBTQ issues. I only knew because I’m familiar with AEW and Sonny
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Chris James 2 posted:The comedy there is he's got an rear end of steel, not that he's a gay man and the other wrestler is specifically terrified of that. There's a difference between him and Danshoku Dino or first years of Goldust as a gay man idk about this one bud
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If sonny kiss showed up in new japan i wouldnt buy it
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bout to see an "as a gay man," argument being done by 15 different people all against eachother for the first time right here in wrestling hut. now that's cool
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