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i just want to point out that M is stupid beyond belief in The World is Not Enough, she gets a call from the person who requested their help going 'yeah that agent you sent went rogue, can you please come personally, just trust us' like, compared to how tough and competent she is in Casino Royale it's barely even the same character
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:goldeneye was not crap For some reason i keep thinking goldeneye was a different bond. Probably because it was so much better than the diamond one
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Is anything of importance done there anymore, what with all the crazy people eyeballing it? Just put a couple dudes out there with Halloween alien party poo poo and let people walk through. Uh, yeah there's a lot of stuff that goes on in there. It's the big fuckoff DO NOT ENTER square in the USAF's premier training range, which means you have a lot of airspace and a lot of systems (radars, etc) to train and test with. You can't just set something like that up anywhere...and there's a very real concern that the military is going to start losing airspace. Red Flag and the Weapons School fly around it. You cross that imaginary line and you RTB, where you will be met on the ramp by at least one general. Then you go home, where I expect you'll be met by other people who grossly outrank you. It's serious enough that if you have an emergency and you can't get back to Nellis, Creech, or Tonopah, you have to call the tower and ask if you can go there...and the answer might be "no, proceed to the ejection area." It's also surrounded by land maintained by the Department of Energy (nuke test sites, Yucca Mtn, etc), so nobody really wants crowds roaming around anyway. Godholio fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Stravag posted:For some reason i keep thinking goldeneye was a different bond. Probably because it was so much better than the diamond one the diamond one had the invisible car, the ice hotel melting, Rosamund Pike, Halle Berry, and bond driving around cuba in a dope rear end aston. idk why but bond movies are way easier for me to ignore what annoys me bc the cool stuff is just fun. its kinda why ive hated p. much all the craig films. not because of craig, they're no fun and boring as gently caress
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Jul 15, 2019 02:20
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McNally posted:That doesn't make her a 00 though. "It takes two, don't worry the second--(phew).." "Easier, yes. Quite"
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:idk why but bond movies are way easier for me to ignore what annoys me bc the cool stuff is just fun. The best part of the cool tech is in the Roger Moore, I want to say it was, Octapussy the Royal Navy called them asking about the rebreather they used that was very small and allowed Bond to stay underwater without a tank. Of course it was just camera and movie magic but still makes me laugh thinking of the Admiral's aide who was told to look into that
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Nick Soapdish posted:The best part of the cool tech is in the Roger Moore, I want to say it was, Octapussy the Royal Navy called them asking about the rebreather they used that was very small and allowed Bond to stay underwater without a tank. Of course it was just camera and movie magic but still makes me laugh thinking of the Admiral's aide who was told to look into that I remember seeing an interview about this and apparently all the gov't officials were VERRRRY tense during the meeting until they asked how long it works for and got the response "well that depends on how long you can hold your breath"
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Jul 15, 2019 02:56
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The fascinating part of every Bond movie is that they're basically a reflection of the timeframe's greatest concern. Nukes, Space Race, Cold War, East-West cooperation, Soviet Union collapse, etc. The problem with the current time is that Global Terrorism is harder to draw a good story from. That's why the Craig Bonds are kinda spotty big plot-wise and I'm still not over how much of a turd the plot was to Quantum of Solace. Skyfall and Spectre had some fun moments with the Global Surveillance State, but also why they sorta dug deep into the Bond character background to move the stories.
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Jul 15, 2019 02:58
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Craig has had had the highest highs in his run though. Quantum is pretty bad though. One of the worst I've seen (admittedly I haven't seen all of them).
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Jul 15, 2019 03:01
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QoS was about water scarcity, which, while highly important, isn’t particularly spooky on the big screen.
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holocaust bloopers posted:QoS was about water scarcity, which, while highly important, isn’t particularly spooky on the big screen. believe it or not, it's also the plot of this new york times article https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/11/business/fresh-water-shortage-invest.html
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Godholio posted:Red Flag and the Weapons School fly around it. You cross that imaginary line and you RTB, where you will be met on the ramp by at least one general. Then you go home, where I expect you'll be met by other people who grossly outrank you. It's serious enough that if you have an emergency and you can't get back to Nellis, Creech, or Tonopah, you have to call the tower and ask if you can go there...and the answer might be "no, proceed to the ejection area." I ahve no clue what any of this means but I get the feeling it involves someone loving up big
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Milo and POTUS posted:I ahve no clue what any of this means but I get the feeling it involves someone loving up big Basically: You fly into Area 51 airspace, which closely neighbors Nellis and Edwards, and you get into deep poo poo. And they'd rather you crater your plane than make a safer emergency landing there.
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Jul 15, 2019 03:21
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violating Area 51 airspace is a far bigger threat to your career than sexual assault
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Proud Christian Mom posted:violating Area 51 airspace is a far bigger threat to your career than sexual assault Oh my
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Proud Christian Mom posted:violating Area 51 airspace is a far bigger threat to your career than sexual assault 
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colachute posted:believe it or not, it's also the plot of this new york times article Ah, the Immortan Joe retirement plan.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:violating Area 51 airspace is a far bigger threat to your career than sexual assault Jesus.
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Godholio posted:Red Flag and the Weapons School fly around it. You cross that imaginary line and you RTB, where you will be met on the ramp by at least one general. Then you go home, where I expect you'll be met by other people who grossly outrank you. It's serious enough that if you have an emergency and you can't get back to Nellis, Creech, or Tonopah, you have to call the tower and ask if you can go there...and the answer might be "no, proceed to the ejection area." I wonder what the line there is and if its south of a B-2 hull loss.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:violating Area 51 airspace is a far bigger threat to your career than Werent they still kicking people out over that like a year ago? Or started again?
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Proud Christian Mom posted:violating Area 51 airspace is a far bigger threat to your career than sexual assault To be fair it's not like thousands in the military have violated area 51 airspace
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Violating Area 51 airspace is a bigger threat to your career than making the Gold Bond video
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facialimpediment posted:The fascinating part of every Bond movie is that they're basically a reflection of the timeframe's greatest concern. Nukes, Space Race, Cold War, East-West cooperation, Soviet Union collapse, etc. This reminds me, when Sony did The Interview, and "someone" (North Korea) hacked them, among that stuff that was leaked was internal discussion about development of Spectre. They were saying that the movie worked great right up until Bond went to the secret volcano lair, then the movie fell apart. So what we got was either the best they could do to salvage it or they did nothing to fix it, because the final act of that movie was a giant mess.
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Milo and POTUS posted:I ahve no clue what any of this means but I get the feeling it involves someone loving up big  Ok, this is the Nellis Test and Training Range. Las Vegas is the city in the south, the Cali border is to the west...NTC is right over there, too, if that helps. The NTTR one of the largest military airspaces in the US. It's where the AF plays with all its expensive toys. This is where the Weapons School does its advanced training that's pretty much unrivaled in the world, it's where Red Flag happens, it's where the USAF used to fly actual Soviet aircraft to train American pilots on how to kill them (read up on the Red Eagles if you've never heard of this). It's got actual SAM systems and tactical radars, jammers, all kinds of poo poo that you can't just put anywhere in the country (you don't want the military loving with your tv or garage door opener or whatever). It's where stuff like the F-117 and B-2 were able to fly without being seen for years before they were unveiled. It's one of the few ranges where we can really do long-range intercepts simulating realistic missile ranges...setting up 20 miles apart from each other was fine in the 1980s, but there have been some improvements over the years. You really need more space than that for good training. And really the NTTR is kind of barely big enough for modern scenarios, thanks to really long range stuff like SA-10s and 20s, where your tactics need to start faaaar away. Usually in these exercises, the good guys start in the east and fight their way west to drop bombs. There are live-drop ranges out there, so the bombers actually get to feel iron fall off the jet. Or the bad guys fight eastward, and the good guys defend a certain point. Either way, we use the whole drat range. Except that big square in the middle. You don't fly over that. That's the Groom Lake (aka Area 51, aka Dreamland) airspace. If you go there, you're in trouble. If you're in a no-poo poo emergency and you need to go there, you have to ask and they might say no. I suspect that's less common than it was in the Cold War, but the idea that the AF is willing to write off a loving airplane by telling a pilot to eject instead of landing there should tell you that they actually DO still do interesting secret squirrel poo poo there.
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Godholio posted:If you're in a no-poo poo emergency and you need to go there, you have to ask and they might say no. I suspect that's less common than it was in the Cold War, but the idea that the AF is willing to write off a loving airplane by telling a pilot to eject instead of landing there should tell you that they actually DO still do interesting secret squirrel poo poo there. The alternative and likely Soviet approach would be disappearing the pilot (and his family?), so I guess you've got to give them some credit.
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All of this Area 51 chat makes me wish the Aurora spy plane is real. Also, the first case of Ebola has been detected in Goma, a city in DRC close to Rwanda and home to 2 million people. Fortunately WHO and local docs did some great contact tracing (the patient was on a bus from one of the hardest hit areas) so hopefully this is a one off. My nightmare scenario is this somehow getting into Kinshasa and from there other African mega cities. If Ebola ever got into Lagos, I’m bugging out to somewhere cold and sparsely populated until it blows over. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/15/ebola-virus-reaches-congolese-city-of-goma
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I suppose ejection is way safer now than back then too but theres also a chance they're saying it's better for you to die rather than land there correct?
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Stravag posted:I suppose ejection is way safer now than back then too but theres also a chance they're saying it's better for you to die rather than land there correct? The way these things work is that (coincidentally) there's not usually going to be any non-ejection aircraft in that situation. Stuff like AWACS isn't going to be in that part of the airspace where it's a concern. That's not the reason, but it just happens to be the case.
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Godholio posted:The way these things work is that (coincidentally) there's not usually going to be any non-ejection aircraft in that situation. Stuff like AWACS isn't going to be in that part of the airspace where it's a concern. That's not the reason, but it just happens to be the case. I meant more someshit happens as you eject from your f15 and you get Goosed or something
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If you trip stepping out onto the ladder you're probably going to land on your head from like 15 feet up, so 
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Good point sometimes the universe just has it in for you
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Stravag posted:I suppose ejection is way safer now than back then too but theres also a chance they're saying it's better for you to die rather than land there correct? Tell that to the A-10 driver who literally fell out of the straps of his harness because they didn't hook his poo poo up right before he took off.
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To be fair, you can't fly over the Magic Kingdom either.
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Coasterphreak posted:To be fair, you can't fly over the Magic Kingdom either. Yeah but does Disney have a better SAM system then the US Air Force?
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BigDave posted:Yeah but does Disney have a better SAM system then the US Air Force? My gut says no but I also wouldn’t bet against it.
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Of all the companies to have an illicit SAM network and a real paramilitary force, Disney is right up there with Nestle and like, DeBeers.
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Bunch of jacked soldiers of fortune with unironic Mikey Mouse as the Punisher patches on. Tank with “Steamboat Willie” written on the side. Custom made titanium 30.06 sniper rounds with “only Mickey can judge me” engraved on the side.
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how often do they sing the mickey mouse theme as a cadence that'd get old quick
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:how often do they sing the mickey mouse theme as a cadence Mickey Jody for road marches.
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Vasudus posted:Of all the companies to have an illicit SAM network and a real paramilitary force, Disney is right up there with Nestle and like, DeBeers. Nestle and DeBeers would have a few stinger and Mistral manpads, but the mouse probably has a better air-defense network then the Iranians.
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