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It seems like most previews had Byleth as a merc.
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Jul 14, 2019 21:34
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And Ike. And he’s the only Tellius character.
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Jul 14, 2019 21:35
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I know we've seen all the generic classes but I will be astounded if Byleth and the three house leaders don't all have exclusive master classes.
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Jul 14, 2019 21:37
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Since I was bored, I threw together a sheet based on all known information for all the units. The first sheet is weapon proficiencies with preferences, and the second is skills and crests https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wlM9QLtT2txGR9gB503AA4GvGAJcF0euh2OpXBCc_qA/edit?usp=sharing
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Jul 14, 2019 21:49
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Endorph posted:yeah mage byleth doesnt really seem like a thing they want you to do, and you get byleth's magic sword pretty early and theres an entire option in the monastery for restoring uses to it so i imagine thief or mercenary are their only real options Bit of a shame to not have the option. I kinda expect at least one or two of the mage students require Byleth to train in magic to recruit.
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Jul 14, 2019 22:31
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i mean, you do have the option.
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Jul 14, 2019 23:02
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Maybe the RNG will just give you a high MAG
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Carlosologist posted:Since I was bored, I threw together a sheet based on all known information for all the units. The first sheet is weapon proficiencies with preferences, and the second is skills and crests Endorph fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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Jul 14, 2019 23:08
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I mean, it's not even like Byleth has bad starting magic. Of all the students, there is precisely one that starts with more than 6 magic outside the obvious mages (it's Lorenz, who's almost perfectly balanced - STR 8, MAG 7), and most start with less. So combine that with Byleth not disliking either type of magic and it's certainly feasible to turn them into a decent mage if their MAG growth rate isn't terrible (and/or you get good RNG). And as pointed out Byleth has a budding talent in Faith magic, so there's at least some unique benefit to boosting it anyways.
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Jul 15, 2019 00:21
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Endorph posted:Couple things, Felix's crest is actually major, not minor. I think a couple of the others are, too. One of Lysithea's? Also I think Dedue and Linhardt's skills work if they move then wait. Good catches, I'll edit those
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Also, it's probably better to have uniform colors for all three houses so it's less bothersome to read. e: Oh they're supposed to correspond to the house colors. I guess that's fine then blizzardvizard fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Jul 15, 2019 07:05
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Carlosologist posted:Good catches, I'll edit those This is really cool, thanks for the good work! I just want to point out that the weapon table for the Black Eagles says "Yellow highlight: Unit's preferred skill", yet the actual color used is red. Also, it's Seiros, not Serios. I'm also getting more conflicted over which house I should start with. I still generally think the Golden Deer characters are better, but I like the stat/weapon proficiency distribution of the Blue Lions a bit more. And seeing how often the Crest of Gloucester shows up in various places, it seems like it would be pretty good to have Sylvain in your roster. But on the other hand, Lysithea apparently has the major Crest of Gloucester? And Sylvain only has the minor crest? And Sylvain had an older brother who was disinherited because he lacked a crest? Wtf is going on here? One thing's for sure, whether I choose Golden Deer of Blue Lions, I will do my best to recruit Sylvain or Lysithea, respectively.
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Jul 15, 2019 07:51
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We know crests in this game don't work like holy blood in FE4, despite the similarities. Only some kids in the family get crests, all stronger blood does is improve the odds. And very rarely crests can manifest in people with seemingly no ancestry.
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Jul 15, 2019 09:23
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Torrannor posted:This is really cool, thanks for the good work! I just want to point out that the weapon table for the Black Eagles says "Yellow highlight: Unit's preferred skill", yet the actual color used is red. Also, it's Seiros, not Serios. Sylvain doesn't have a Crest of Gloucester at all, he's got a minor Crest of Gautier. The other student with Gloucester is Lorenz, who is also in Golden Deer. And Lysithea apparently having that major crest is likely going to be some sort of plot point, given all the official material released has only mentioned her having a minor Crest of Charon.
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Jul 15, 2019 14:03
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How possible will it be to teach all my children to be Ikes and how possible will it be to expel any failson who is bad at Iking
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Jul 15, 2019 15:01
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RBA Starblade posted:How possible will it be to teach all my children to be Ikes and how possible will it be to expel any failson who is bad at Iking
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Jul 15, 2019 15:22
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Endorph posted:mercenary and hero are male only I believe in ikequality this is an outrage
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Jul 15, 2019 15:28
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I’m going for Swordmaster FByleth and my daughter Petra will also be a Swordmaster
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Jul 15, 2019 15:34
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*looks at Dorothea’s preferences* so the game wants me to turn her into Celica right
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Jul 15, 2019 15:43
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:*looks at Dorothea’s preferences* so the game wants me to turn her into Celica right Yes, if Celica could dance, because dancers are swords and magic in this game.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:22
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So Dancer Byleth might be a decent idea.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:28
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RBA Starblade posted:How possible will it be to teach all my children to be Ikes and how possible will it be to expel any failson who is bad at Iking Geralt alt account spotted
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Jul 15, 2019 16:42
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Its still super weird to me we've confirmed that men get exclusive access to Dark mages/Bishops and Mercenaries/Heroes while women only get Pegasus Knights. Especially after Fates finally got rid of gender locked classes and we saw the traditionally men only warriors were open.  Were any of the Master Classes gender locked? I haven't had a chance to review the video.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:45
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I hope the weapon ranks aren't Fates esque in how absurdly slow it is. I spammed heal like crazy with Felicia and she only barely got max staff rank despite doing most of the paralogues.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:46
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Tae posted:I hope the weapon ranks aren't Fates esque in how absurdly slow it is. I spammed heal like crazy with Felicia and she only barely got max staff rank despite doing most of the paralogues. tutoring will speed it up if nothing else.
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Jul 15, 2019 16:54
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Zore posted:Its still super weird to me we've confirmed that men get exclusive access to Dark mages/Bishops and Mercenaries/Heroes while women only get Pegasus Knights. Especially after Fates finally got rid of gender locked classes and we saw the traditionally men only warriors were open. Falcon Knight and Gremory are female only and War Master is male only. The only class that's possibly a good idea as a gender locked one is Pegasus Knight as a way to reduce flying units at the early parts of the game. Other than that it's really silly. I'm not really sure what's going on with the magic classes either as Dark Bishop is advanced level class that's gender locked to males and Gremory is the master level dedicated magic class and that's gender locked to females.
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Jul 15, 2019 17:01
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fates weapon rank gains definitely felt balanced with a worry that without weapon durability it was the only limiting factor left on slapping great weapons on everyone at all times
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Jul 15, 2019 17:02
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I don't understand why they'd let women be brigands and warriors if war master is male only. Ugh, this class system is weird as hell.
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Jul 15, 2019 17:17
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Mokinokaro posted:So Dancer Byleth might be a decent idea.
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Jul 15, 2019 18:37
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How many units can you usually field at once? Looks like most of the previews have their whole class on the map in any given mission. Also, can anyone clarify how adjutants work? From what I understand there's no more pair up during battle, you assign them before deployment and there's no separating. Is that the case, and if so what happens to the adjutant if the lead unit dies?
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Jul 15, 2019 19:35
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Made additional edits based on what you guys have been saying. Once the game comes out let me know what else I should add!
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Jul 15, 2019 19:36
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Wait, can males be dancers?
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What do weapon ranks like "E+" and "D+" mean anyway? Has that ever been explained?
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Jul 15, 2019 20:00
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It's just a new intermediary rank. Gives you more abilities/Combat Arts, but doesn't let you use new weapons (well, I think).
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Jawdins posted:Also, can anyone clarify how adjutants work? From what I understand there's no more pair up during battle, you assign them before deployment and there's no separating. Is that the case, and if so what happens to the adjutant if the lead unit dies? Afaik, adjutants are just a way to share xp. They don't add new attacks or anything.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:07
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Basically, you will always have everyone on par with levels SoV style since your roster is relatively small for each route.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:26
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marshmallow creep posted:Wait, can males be dancers? We don't know yet.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:59
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The final house video is up now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK5doMgxxc0
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Jul 15, 2019 21:20
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Endorph posted:mercenary and hero are male only It’s weird because Hero is male only but I’m pretty sure Mercenary isn’t gender locked.
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marshmallow creep posted:Wait, can males be dancers? If they can’t be... well, at least I have FFXIV, but I’ll still be disappointed.
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