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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Jul 15, 2019 20:22
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B B posted:Party Plane Jones is a pretty lovely moderator, yes.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:23
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All the polls are made up. Bernie is winning. The ground game is in our hearts.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:24
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kidkissinger posted:The Bearstein Bears don't get raptured then? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/magazine/how-the-berenstain-bears-found-salvation.html "The new volumes, “The Berenstain Bears: Do Not Fear, God Is Near” and “The Berenstain Bears Go to Sunday School,” had a markedly different cast than my son’s old favorites. " The authors were (atleast one was) Jewish.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:30
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gohmak posted:pronouned stine or steen? FRAU BUDGET!! [a horse neighs in the background. minutes later a disheveled looking Mike Pence enters from stage right]
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Jul 15, 2019 20:32
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Jul 15, 2019 20:43
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I'm a volunteer for Bernie and honestly, lately I have not been feeling so good about his chances as a consequence of how he's been campaigning. The first problem is that he just keeps giving the same drat stump speech, which is amazing and I agree with, but is not a real response to a lot of the questions and issues he uses it for, and after years of repetition is beginning to make people's eyes glaze over. The second is that decades in the Senate have decorum-poisoned him more than most people want to admit, and while he's happy to go after corporations, he hasn't shown the same willingness to go after other candidates. The third is that he has been less than willing to talk about his own personal history and record, which is a huge mistake because he has the best record of any candidate. I think these three factors are killing his chances to defeat Biden and Warren and it's especially too bad because we all know he is capable of doing better – every once in a while he breaks out of this trench he's in and it's amazing. None of this will stop me from fighting for him, but if he actually wants to win, he needs to be a lot more dynamic, every drat day. I hear he hates D.C. hacks and like, me too, but I bet they are also telling him this and he needs to listen.
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Jul 15, 2019 20:51
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In before somebody makes this post:quote:How do you do, fellow kids? I am a “volunteer” for Bernie and am totally on his side but just FYI he is not paying for my servitude, also he is losing support. If Bernie is the front runner why do I keep insisting he’s not? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 15, 2019 21:05
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Why yes, the best thing for Bernie and this movement is to respond to gentle constructive criticism with 
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Jul 15, 2019 21:10
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yronic heroism posted:In before somebody makes this post: The thing is I believe him, as opposed to the weirdos who say they support Bernie and then champion fucksteining numbers
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Jul 15, 2019 21:14
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So remember Warren's "no big donors during the primary" pledge? Turns out it depends on how you define "no" and "pledge". Her campaign turned to a big donor to spend $100k to buy the DNC's voter files for her, and they're saying it's not a breach of the pledge because the money was solicited by her campaign rather than by her personally, because the money wasn't solicited at a fundraising event, and because no one-on-one time between Warren and the donor was set up in exchange for the donation. https://twitter.com/rubycramer/status/1150822033607012352 The campaign's argument appears to live up to the exact text of Warren's original no-big-donors pledge, which only prohibits Warren herself from devoting disproportionate time to soliciting big donors. But I don't think that argument is going to satisfy the people who were attracted by media coverage of her pledge, which often presented it as a blanket refusal of big money. If anything, it's just going to draw attention to the fact that it's not as much of a "small donors only" policy as was commonly believed.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:15
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Eagerly awaiting people to come up with extremely nuanced reasons for why it's OK to be bought by the rich if it happens by proxy.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:18
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Also, it looks like Sanders has released a new policy (or at least one I haven't heard of before) - establishing a fund to allow state and local governments to buy up hospitals that are being shut down, so that they can be operated as public services and continue to serve regions that are being deprived of hospital service in the current wave of hospital-industry consolidation. Worth noting is that he didn't announce this policy in a press release or a Medium post, he announced in person at a rally to save a hospital that's being shut down and sold off to real estate investors. https://twitter.com/adamkelsey/status/1150836072735264772 https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/07/15/bernie-sanders-hahnemann-university-hospital-rally-center-city/ quote:PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders joined in a big rally Monday to protest the closure of Hahnemann University Hospital. The Vermont senator was with hundreds of supporters outside of the hospital on Monday afternoon.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:22
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Main Paineframe posted:If anything, it's just going to draw attention to the fact that it's not as much of a "small donors only" policy as was commonly believed. except it never was a "small donors only" policy, just a "no access in return for donations" policy, as this author literally says? https://twitter.com/rubycramer/status/1150825218392428545
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Jul 15, 2019 21:25
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By accepting the donation she has given a Silicon Valley leech access to her brainspace, whether they directly meet or not. Sorry Warren stans -- the capitalists are living in her head, and paying rent
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Jul 15, 2019 21:28
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https://twitter.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1150858451343556609 This is a disgusting individual.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:39
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eke out posted:except it never was a "small donors only" policy, just a "no access in return for donations" policy, as this author literally says? Love to believe that my candidate is incapable of gratitude and won’t feel any pressure whatsoever to offer some kind of gift in kind. You don’t take the money because the pressure to reciprocate exists at levels that we indoctrinate toddlers on.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:41
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1150858451343556609 Wasn't she a progressive of sorts in 2016?
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Jul 15, 2019 21:50
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Wasn't she a progressive of sorts in 2016? she was the press secretary for some guy that was running in the primary that year, can't think of who
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Jul 15, 2019 21:51
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Wasn't she a progressive of sorts in 2016? She was Bernie's press secretary.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:52
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eke out posted:except it never was a "small donors only" policy, just a "no access in return for donations" policy, as this author literally says? Gotta say I wasn't expecting the old "well it's OK to take bribes as long as you pinky swear that you won't give anything in return" argument, but here we are.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:53
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https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1150868129347768325
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Jul 15, 2019 21:54
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eke out posted:except it never was a "small donors only" policy, just a "no access in return for donations" policy, as this author literally says? "I have met the technical requirements of my stated policy while violating the spirit of it" is definitely a popular mainstream Democratic position, but it doesn't make it a good one.
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Jul 15, 2019 21:55
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Cerebral Bore posted:Gotta say I wasn't expecting the old "well it's OK to take bribes as long as you pinky swear that you won't give anything in return" argument, but here we are. gotcha: warren broke a promise i imagined that she made checkmate, libs
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Jul 15, 2019 22:00
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/SymoneDSanders/status/1150858451343556609 https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1150863187174203392
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Jul 15, 2019 22:03
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Oh Snapple! posted:She was Bernie's press secretary. Interesting. How did she think she would have any credibility shilling for Biden then?
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Jul 15, 2019 22:03
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eke out posted:gotcha: warren broke a promise i imagined that she made To be perfectly honest I wasn't expecting the old "well obviously bribery is OK as long as you haven't promised not to take bribes" either, but here we are again.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:06
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eke out posted:gotcha: warren broke a promise i imagined that she made There was a lot of news sites that reported it as "Warren rejects big donors" or "Warren bets on small donors", so it's reasonable to assume that she was doing like Sanders and entirely rejecting big donors. It turns out that she wasn't, she was actually doing some complicated thing that made for misleadingly positive headlines while still keeping the big money flowing her way. Yay for Warren.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:06
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eke out posted:gotcha: warren broke a promise i imagined that she made Her policy was obviously written in such a way that she could sell it publicly as disavowing wealthy donors while still taking their money behind closed doors, say by having them cover the costs of a major national voter list. Like this tweet: https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1102632567931576322 Yes, letting a Silicon Valley millionaire effectively donate six figures to your campaign doesn't technically violate anything here (until that Silicon Valley millionaire does get special access that we don't get told about, anyways), but it clearly violates the message and its intent. Keep big money out of politics! (unless I find it personally advantageous) Or more succinctly: Cerebral Bore posted:To be perfectly honest I wasn't expecting the old "well obviously bribery is OK as long as you haven't promised not to take bribes" either, but here we are again.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:11
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Interesting. How did she think she would have any credibility shilling for Biden then? she probably got tired of being rick santorum's punching bag every night on cnn
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Jul 15, 2019 22:11
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Is he an invited speaker or attending as a member?
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Jul 15, 2019 22:11
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Interesting. How did she think she would have any credibility shilling for Biden then?
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Jul 15, 2019 22:12
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Gripweed posted:It turns out that she wasn't, she was actually doing some complicated thing that made for misleadingly positive headlines while still keeping the big money flowing her way. Oh no, I hope that doesn't become a pattern for her.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:17
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Jul 15, 2019 22:21
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The funniest part is that while Biden is up there telling seniors how Medicare For All will kill cancer patients, the Biden Cancer Initiative is shutting down as a direct result of Biden's presidential campaign. https://mobile.twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1150830684082249728 The organization itself says that it simply couldn't keep the attention of fundraisers, corporations, or political organizations without Biden's direct involvement, and therefore the organization has seen its progress grind to a halt after Biden stepped down to run for president. Every reporter that's noticed the shutdown, however, also seemed to think that it might have had something to do with ethics concerns for a possible Biden presidency, given the organization's close ties to corporate interests. Either way, it cracks me up that the presidential candidate who's promising to cure cancer has caused the collapse of their own anti-cancer initiative by abandoning it to run for president.
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Jul 15, 2019 22:55
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Being anti-cancer is too divisive.
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Jul 15, 2019 23:09
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I'm a volunteer for Bernie and honestly, lately I have not been feeling so good about his chances as a consequence of how he's been campaigning. While I don't exactly disagree that it would be good for him to improve on those things, I disagree that he really has much power over improving his chances. The main thing that drives (mostly older) voters from Bernie is the simple existence of other candidates who are more subjectively "likeable" to them; you can't make those people vote on the actual issues. In 2016 the only other real option was Clinton, who was not perceived that well by many voters, but now you have people like Warren (or even Harris) who, to laypeople, appear to have the same values as Bernie while being a younger and more "likeable" person. I feel like if Sanders went after a candidate like Warren or Harris, it could backfire because the people who support those candidates are generally unwilling to view them negatively and will react with hostility towards attacks on them (heck, just look at the response in D&D to people attacking Warren, even from people who prefer Sanders).
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Jul 15, 2019 23:24
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Ytlaya posted:While I don't exactly disagree that it would be good for him to improve on those things, I disagree that he really has much power over improving his chances. The main thing that drives (mostly older) voters from Bernie is the simple existence of other candidates who are more subjectively "likeable" to them; you can't make those people vote on the actual issues. In 2016 the only other real option was Clinton, who was not perceived that well by many voters, but now you have people like Warren (or even Harris) who, to laypeople, appear to have the same values as Bernie while being a younger and more "likeable" person. sounds to me like improving "likability" and "connecting" with voters is actually extremely important in an election
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