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when i hear data scientist i automatically think 'insanely smart person who writes some of the worst python you've ever seen in your career' 's held up three times so far (though only one was python  )
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Ciaphas posted:when i hear data scientist i automatically think 'insane person who writes some of the worst python you've ever seen in your career'
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Jul 15, 2019 22:53
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Ciaphas posted:when i hear data scientist i automatically think 'insanely smart person who writes some of the worst python you've ever seen in your career' when COMPANYNAME hired a data science consultant to do some bullshit for us they were like "everybody in the office wants to work on your project, your data always makes really pretty graphics"
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Jul 15, 2019 23:05
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at what point is two weeks no longer "reasonable notice"
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Jul 16, 2019 02:13
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:at what point is two weeks no longer "reasonable notice" If there's another place offering you more money, or if you don't want to be there anymore.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:15
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:at what point is two weeks no longer "reasonable notice" if you don't feel like you owe them the professional courtesy and are absolutely sure you won't want to go back in the future
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Jul 16, 2019 02:50
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at any point is more than two weeks expected is what i meant
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Jul 16, 2019 03:51
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oh. again that really depends on the professional courtesy you think you owe. you're the only one that can answer that question. the current company i'm talking to has been asking how soon can i start and i told them they have to wait until i finish my current contract which will be 2.5 months from now. this is because i've enjoyed working for this company and have built a good network here as well as a reputation for "getting the job done". i told them that i'd tell my managers of my intention to resign once the contract was finished so the client wouldn't have to be any wiser. this is mostly because i'm unsure of the new company and want to be able to run back to my current company and manager should things go belly up. my first company i told my boss to go gently caress himself and was escorted out of the building by security. so you really just have to judge each scenario as they come.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:02
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Rex-Goliath posted:my first company i told my boss to go gently caress himself and was escorted out of the building by security. This really is the only correct way to leave a job
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Jul 16, 2019 07:11
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If you want to avoid confrontation, feel free to print out a letter of resignation and smear it in cat poo poo Or mail the new employment contract fully signed to your boss like someone else here did once qhat fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 07:17
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Amazon screen tomorrow. Wish me luck fellow garbage haulers
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Jul 16, 2019 08:39
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pointsofdata posted:Do you actually need a data scientist or do you really need a data engineer who can put together some analytics? You'll get fairly different candidates despite how close the roles seem. Well, there is some element of research in that we are experimenting with our methods, implementing algorithms from papers, etc. But I would say data science is a skill we need (among others skills) more than Data Scientist is a role we need. If we hire someone who can develop new analyses but their code sucks and they need to hand it off to someone else to make it testable, etc. for production, then that would be a Not Good outcome.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:00
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Scott Baio Nudes posted:at any point is more than two weeks expected is what i meant If you are not in an at-will state and it's written into your contract.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:10
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I've had interviewers ask "why ?" after I've given my expected salary and I wonder if it's a dumbass trick to throw you off ? It came up for my current job and i politely brushed it off. I don't believe you're actually supposed to make a good case for yourself arguing experience and degrees ?
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Jul 16, 2019 12:41
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Why are you giving your expected salary? Or is this a counter for them giving you an offer
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Jul 16, 2019 13:01
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I gave a number first, don't hit me
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Jul 16, 2019 13:43
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unpacked robinhood posted:I've had interviewers ask "why ?" after I've given my expected salary and I wonder if it's a dumbass trick to throw you off ? It's a red signal flag telling you to get out of there.
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Jul 16, 2019 13:52
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Boiled Water posted:It's a red signal flag telling you to get out of there.
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Jul 16, 2019 13:53
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unpacked robinhood posted:I've had interviewers ask "why ?" after I've given my expected salary and I wonder if it's a dumbass trick to throw you off ? yeah that sounds like negging to me
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Jul 16, 2019 13:54
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unpacked robinhood posted:I gave a number first, don't hit me So it went their number, you countered higher, and they told you to justify it? Eugh
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Jul 16, 2019 13:55
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unpacked robinhood posted:I've had interviewers ask "why ?" after I've given my expected salary and I wonder if it's a dumbass trick to throw you off ? hahaha good to know that this is their new trick so i can be ready when it’s inevitably used on me
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Jul 16, 2019 14:38
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This isn't so much hiring or recruiting, but I have a friend who works at a little "build websites for local businesses" shop around Columbus Ohio that is about 20 years out of date, i.e. backend entirely written in perl. He recently asked them for a raise and they asked him to bring in his monthly budget.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:24
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pathetic little tramp posted:This isn't so much hiring or recruiting, but I have a friend who works at a little "build websites for local businesses" shop around Columbus Ohio that is about 20 years out of date, i.e. backend entirely written in perl. He recently asked them for a raise and they asked him to bring in his monthly budget. “how about you show me your p/l and we’ll work out what you can afford to pay me”
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Jul 16, 2019 15:29
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pathetic little tramp posted:This isn't so much hiring or recruiting, but I have a friend who works at a little "build websites for local businesses" shop around Columbus Ohio that is about 20 years out of date, i.e. backend entirely written in perl. He recently asked them for a raise and they asked him to bring in his monthly budget.
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Jul 16, 2019 15:31
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pressing that button
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Jul 16, 2019 16:15
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FMguru posted:feel free to quote this threads current title text at him lol yeah he's been trying to get out for 7 months, but poor bastard is a very loyal guy and didn't really think about "huh maybe saying I worked for 3 years as a perl developer won't be great for my resume in 2019"
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Jul 16, 2019 16:59
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i'm in the uk and just got an offer which includes a bonus, like 10%. why is this a thing instead of 10% extra salary?
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Jul 16, 2019 17:16
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like a signing bonus? they do that because it happens only once instead of every year. if it's an annual bonus, check to see if it's tied to any specific performance goals that would let them take it away. if it's a guaranteed 10% bonus on top of your salary every year then idk maybe some sort of tax fraud.
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Jul 16, 2019 17:24
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Sagebrush posted:if it's a guaranteed 10% bonus on top of your salary every year then idk maybe some sort of tax fraud. this can be some way around a "level" system in your company as well. so two developers may be on the same salary band and step but differ in bonuses. big companies do this with RSU and bonus packages together. alternatively if its one time and up front its just to cover your transition costs. are you local? that might be money set aside for relocation
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Jul 16, 2019 17:27
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sorry yeah annual bonus- sounds like it is tied to performance as well. they also keep on counting pension contributions to total comp, is that normal? can't remember it being a thing
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Jul 16, 2019 17:32
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total comp is a metric to make things look better from the company side so i'd be surprised if they didn't put that in there but i'm a millenial american so i have no idea what a pension even is. a 401k match is part of "total comp" though
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Jul 16, 2019 17:38
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yeah i am effectively a child so find it hard to get excited about pension. for reference the role is a functional scala role in london, 57k base + 10% bonus + whatever pension contributions. hmmmmm
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Jul 16, 2019 17:46
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:sorry yeah annual bonus- sounds like it is tied to performance as well. they also keep on counting pension contributions to total comp, is that normal? can't remember it being a thing also putting a chunk of compensation in bonuses allows management to constrict pay if things get dire
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Jul 16, 2019 17:53
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:yeah i am effectively a child so find it hard to get excited about pension. for reference the role is a functional scala role in london, 57k base + 10% bonus + whatever pension contributions. hmmmmm This is an OK offer if you are very junior, not great otherwise.
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Jul 16, 2019 18:34
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lots of tech jobs have a "target" bonus where theyre like "we'll try to give you a 10% bonus every year" it means literally nothing except sometimes you actually get a bonus, but other times theyre like "yeah no bonuses this year", sometimes it's tied to company performance, or personal performance, or some combination thereof it's not like a red flag or anything, you will likely get some 'free' money every year, but don't budget around it or something in some industries it is drat near guaranteed comp, in others its guaranteed youll get 0 bucks every year
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Jul 16, 2019 18:40
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Mao Zedong Thot posted:in some industries it is drat near guaranteed comp, in others its guaranteed youll get 0 bucks every year yep
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Jul 16, 2019 18:46
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pointsofdata posted:This is an OK offer if you are very junior, not great otherwise. yeah that was my impression. it also means taking the train a heck of a lot. another place is calling me back tomorrow though and that's what I'm really holding out for. also it does not involve taking the train
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Jul 16, 2019 18:49
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CLASS 2 PERVERSION posted:yeah that was my impression. it also means taking the train a heck of a lot. another place is calling me back tomorrow though and that's what I'm really holding out for. also it does not involve taking the train taking the train is good
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Jul 16, 2019 18:50
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Captain Foo posted:taking the train is good as opposed to walking literally 2 minutes?
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Rex-Goliath posted:also putting a chunk of compensation in bonuses allows management to constrict pay if things get dire so does firing people though?
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