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Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



Decoy Badger posted:

Do xAKs have 7x the capacity of xAKLs? Why such a great point difference?

The short answer is yes. xAK and xAKL are ship type designations that each cover a wide range of specific ship classes. xAKs are normal size civilian cargo vessels and xAKLs are small ones. The smallest xAK might be not thaaat much larger than the largest xAKL, but many xAKLs are truly small and some xAKs are pretty big.

Really good transport ships like AKAs or APAs could easily be like 30 points. Some xAPs are literally ocean liners and are worth about the same.

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

ro5s posted:

Would an upwards pointing gun actually be any use? That sounds like a nightmare to aim rather than just pointing your nose at something.

They'd use a separate reticle/gunsight so its not so bad, and yeah it can be pretty useful, since you might be shooting at your target outside of its defensive armament.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

ro5s posted:

Would an upwards pointing gun actually be any use? That sounds like a nightmare to aim rather than just pointing your nose at something.

extremely useful for night fighters

1) you can stay below the enemy and hopefully out of his defensive guns and also out of sight
2) you don't have to climb quite so high
3) generally easier to acquire targets looking up at the planform of the plane silhouetted against the sky rather than trying to look at the cross section

they had their own gunsights, it's just a fixed gun system exactly like the ones pointing forward. some later german models had automatic photovoltaic sights.

Lakedaimon
Jan 11, 2007

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

extremely useful for night fighters

1) you can stay below the enemy and hopefully out of his defensive guns and also out of sight
2) you don't have to climb quite so high
3) generally easier to acquire targets looking up at the planform of the plane silhouetted against the sky rather than trying to look at the cross section

they had their own gunsights, it's just a fixed gun system exactly like the ones pointing forward. some later german models had automatic photovoltaic sights.

Plus some aircraft had armor protection or were at least designed with attacks from 6 o'clock in mind. German night fighter pilots said that the upward firing guns were able to easily hit the fuel tanks/engine radiators of British bombers at a nice flat angle. From behind you had to also chop through the control surfaces and/or a nearly perpendicular wing.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Tankers! Shame one escapes.



We then maul the Allies victory fleet.



Blood! Revenge!



Through all this the destroyers get out of position, and let the motorboats get some torpedoes into our battleship!



Of course, all this means they are a bit low on ammo for the actual bombardment.



Dawn see the motorboats still harassing the now wounded battleship, but now she can use her guns better.






Nothing but some recon killing in the air phase, but oh boy was that a sea phase!



Allied morale must be weakening.



She will make it.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
So will Kongo basically be out for the rest of the war? And having lost track, how many BB's do you have left in active service?

shalafi4
Feb 20, 2011

another medical bills avatar

Jobbo_Fett posted:

They'd use a separate reticle/gunsight so its not so bad, and yeah it can be pretty useful, since you might be shooting at your target outside of its defensive armament.

Also another side benefit.

If the cannon is behind and above you the muzzle flash won't kill your night vision.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That's some giant balls from the PT boats who just charged into a Japanese fleet and torpedoed a battleship

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

ro5s posted:

Would an upwards pointing gun actually be any use? That sounds like a nightmare to aim rather than just pointing your nose at something.

The guns were pointed up at an angle, the intent being to approach from below and behind but out of view of the rear gunner on British heavy bombers. Once close enough to engage the unsuspecting straight flying bomber, the cannon would be fired in a long, surprising burst into the belly of the bomber, generally destroying it in one burst. It was very effective in that a lot of early losses were without the victim radioing they were under attack and the British were unaware of what was killing their night bombers for some time, assuming flak was taking them out.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Hey! Your not allowed to hit my ships!



Rabul is attacked in force.






Looks like there are still a few planes here.






Another normal day in mid 45.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

10 July 1945

USS Haddo torpedoes the Japanese minesweeper W-27 near Tadosaki.

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
Are you by chance still shipping planes *in* to Guadalcanal or have you canceled that?

... You seem to have lost more there than you had at Rabaul or Guam.

benzine
Oct 21, 2010

Grey Hunter posted:

Another normal day in mid 55.

Japan still holds strong.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
1: How long until more action on your Western front?

2: Are you able to air drop supplies to them? Those troops had a pretty bad supply malus by the time they took the city, and did not capture much.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Hmm, who still has strikes ordered.






Just a day of bombing the same old targets.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Pagan is hit. The allies are using their new air superiority. Supplies are on their way to fix this!






We have a poor day over Rabaul.






Their operational losses make this a better day!



A wounded ship sinks.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

11 July 1945

Japanese destroyer Sakura is mined in Osaka harbor.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






drat subs!



We flak up a liberator.






At least this is evens.






So I'm sending the carriers north towards Guam – to cover the incoming supply convoy.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Some of my damaged battleships are back, so I sent them to Port Moresby as a coming home party.



What;s that? Their pranking the locals?



Oh those boys.



Another day of fighting.






This is why I need to send the carriers north!



A different convoy comes under attack.






A day of ups and downs – but it looks like one of those ships had some planes on it!



At least we sank more than we lost – this turn!

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
You burned down Notre Dame. You monster.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

14 July 1945

Raiding near Hokkaido, TF38 air groups sink escorts No. 65 and 74 and escort destroyer Tachibana as well as severely damaging and grounding escort destroyer Yanagi. They also seriously disrupt the vital Hokkaido-Honshu coal traffic.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We flak up a night raid.



The Battleships have more fun.



A day strike hits our airfield. This is unheard of!



This is going badly today!






Take that you underwater stalker!






A poor day.



At least we took out a sub.

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
The Manchukuo Garrison score has been climbing steadily the last year or two... improving unit TOE or is Grey secretly planning to invade Russia?

Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!

Decoy Badger posted:

The Manchukuo Garrison score has been climbing steadily the last year or two... improving unit TOE or is Grey secretly planning to invade Russia?

Preparing for the inevitable...

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

15 July 1945

The carrier sweep picks up escort No. 219 and minesweeper W-24.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
This should be the one time the combat model works in Grey's favor, though: the Soviets are stuck at the same glacial movement speed as everyone else. August Storm is flatly impossible for them to pull off.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The carriers arrive, but are not that efficient.



Then a Helldiver slips through the CAP and gets a hit!
When I check the damage reports at the end, this is actually a near miss, and she has taken no damage. Phew!





Just stop bothering us!






That's a lot more air kills than I was expecting.



Lots of ships go sinky.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Sortie the BBs!!

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Ron Jeremy posted:

Sortie the BBs!!

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Ron Jeremy posted:

Sortie the BBs!!

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

16 July 1945

US subs sink the torpedo boat Kari and the gunboat Nankai (ex-Dutch minelayer Regulus) in the Indies.

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Ron Jeremy posted:

Sortie the BBs!!

Yeah! Quit loving around with the useless carriers and send the REAL capital ships out!

barman
Jan 29, 2013

Ron Jeremy posted:

Sortie the BBs!!


Detach the CA s and DDs from your carrier group and Rebase them to Guam

Sortie the CAs, sortie the destroyers, sortie the BBs
and at least change the cap range to 0 .

Do Anything else then putting zero nightfighters on carriers near an enemy airbase !

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Take that!






The numbers are good, but the impact is lacking.



The Junk carriers have been told to mess up their airfield.



The CAP does its job and drives off the enemy attack.






We are messing them up in the air!



He he he.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






I blow Buna up for some fun.



Then there is the traditional post-bombardment sinking of the LCTs.






We lose some planes trying to sink a destroyer.



These guys get no air cover.



In the afternoon, its right back to heavy losses.






My men have finally managed to march forward, and as expected, the second line is nowhere near as well defended.






The air losses swing to their favour.



The sea continues to be mine though.


In another timeline, Japan surrendered today. This is now my longest LP

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Wow I cant believe its been that long

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
How effective are carriers at anti-submarine ops? Does sticking an escort carrier into a convoy have a good chance of fending off/destroying any would-be attackers?

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

Grey Hunter posted:

In another timeline, Japan surrendered today. This is now my longest LP

:toot:

I seriously wonder if the allies will get around to nuking something in this game. And where will they drop them.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
I bet it will be Guam

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zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Volmarias posted:

I bet it will be Guam

Ndeni, but only after the Kiwis have landed

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