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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Lycus posted:Haha, Delaney. What a money sink. Self-Funding is a broad faced lie. He is not self-funding, he has loaned his campaign money, which his campaign will pay him back with interest. That *is* his end-game for being in the race. He's probably not the only one, but he's the most obvious one (because he sure seems to be bad at this).
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I said come in! posted:That's what i'm asking. What is actually used for? I have no idea. Many of these people are super loving wealthy, why do they need my money? On the assumption this is a serious question, donations to the campaigns do not go to the candidates personally. They go to the campaign account, which pays for things like advertising, the cost of touring around the country giving speeches, door to door voting drives, yard signs, etc. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 20:25
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hot take of the day from me: Beto is better than Buttigieg or Kamala I agree! Beto even said we should take down the border walls in El Paso.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:25
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mormonpartyboat posted:while it is true that he doesn't have the handy tablespoon measurement lines like butter greg , , , Look I can't vote for a Castro until one or the other of them grows a pencil-thin mustache so I know which of them is which.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:27
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I said come in! posted:That's what i'm asking. What is actually used for? I have no idea. Many of these people are super loving wealthy, why do they need my money? It's used to pay campaign staff, print signs and bumper stickers, pay for advertising, polls, get out the vote efforts, and so on. You are correct that candidates wealthy enough to self-fund their campaign shouldn't get your money though. But Sanders isn't that rich
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Jul 16, 2019 20:28
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Look I can't vote for a Castro until one or the other of them grows a pencil-thin mustache so I know which of them is which. one of them dyed his hair blonde  does that count
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Jul 16, 2019 20:28
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mormonpartyboat posted:one of them dyed his hair blonde aaah no i mean ok yes that is obviously the evil one, which one is that
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Jul 16, 2019 20:30
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mormonpartyboat posted:one of them dyed his hair blonde *monkey paw curls*
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Jul 16, 2019 20:31
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:aaah no The non president-running one.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:31
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I said come in! posted:That's what i'm asking. What is actually used for? I have no idea. Many of these people are super loving wealthy, why do they need my money? ... to pay for a national campaign??? e: maybe you've never volunteered or worked for a campaign before or never once given a thought about politics so maybe you're not an idiot. If that's the case then: political campaigns are made up of volunteers in terms of the pure numbers, but there has to be a core group of people whose job is purely campaign work, 24/7. For a more local race this might be half a dozen staff supporting a hundred volunteers. A national, Presidential campaign is going to need hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of full time paid staff to coordinate tens of thousands of volunteers across the entire nation. ALSO you have to raise money to pay for things that are not free like advertising so your message can reach the people you want to reach, polling so you can find out who those people are and what messages are most effective with them, transportation because your candidate and core staff are travelling all the gently caress over the country non-stop trying to talk to every last god damned voter in the world. Yeah a billionaire can self-fund all that poo poo but even somebody worth like $12 million would be spent real loving quick. ALSO donations are a form of a buy-in into your campaign and people who donate are more likely to get invovled in other ways which is important because volunteers are the lifeblood of an effective campaign. ALSO having tons of small dollar donations shows the media and country at large that you are resonating with people and thus are more likely to get a look by people who are just tuning in. what a weird question to ask edit again: like, Romney and Obama (and super pacs) spent a Billion dollars combined in the '12 election How are u fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 20:33
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mormonpartyboat posted:one of them dyed his hair blonde This is a level beyond Castro. I call it Castro2
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Jul 16, 2019 20:34
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"Just gently caress my poo poo up"
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Jul 16, 2019 20:34
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I said come in! posted:That's what i'm asking. What is actually used for? I have no idea. Many of these people are super loving wealthy, why do they need my money? The FEC has fairly granular data for any given candidate's own spending. Here's a link to Bernie's, for example: https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/P60007168/?tab=spending Politics can be very expensive. Self funding a national scale campaign is well beyond the reach of people that we might otherwise call rich. Campaign funding is both and entry barrier of itself and also a major vector for influence peddling, grift, and so on.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:36
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mormonpartyboat posted:one of them dyed his hair blonde There's no way this is loving real
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Jul 16, 2019 20:38
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Ruminahui posted:There's no way this is loving real
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Jul 16, 2019 20:40
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eviltastic posted:The FEC has fairly granular data for any given candidate's own spending. Here's a link to Bernie's, for example: https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/P60007168/?tab=spending Okay that is a pretty cool link. Bernie bought stamps on March 31, 2019 in Vermont for $7.09. Also when you flip through the pages, it has a cool little animated graph thing going on while it's loading.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:41
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:aaah no thats the good one the evil one looks like this 
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Jul 16, 2019 20:43
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mormonpartyboat posted:thats wrong Beto went to every county in Texas, he put in a SHITLOAD of legwork to get his name out there. He did better than you'd expect "Not Ted Cruz" to do, you're making up a bunch of stuff to retroactively justify your current dislike of him. I don't want him to be president either, but you're just making stuff up.
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Jul 16, 2019 20:44
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Beto should have run for Cornyn's seat and focused entirely on registering voters and gotv. I bet he'd have won. I was into him until the moment he decided to listen to his own rear end in a top hat and run for president, which was absurd then and clearly absurd now. He had an immense amount of national goodwill for coming so close to toppling Ted Cruz in loving Texas. He'd have had even more national support and momentum if he'd just tried again. How are u fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 20:47
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theflyingorc posted:Beto went to every county in Texas, he put in a SHITLOAD of legwork to get his name out there. He did better than you'd expect "Not Ted Cruz" to do, you're making up a bunch of stuff to retroactively justify your current dislike of him. I don't want him to be president either, but you're just making stuff up. "all he did was emphasize that he isnt ted cruz" "yeah but he did that really hard, and he did it in a lot of places stop making things up" maybe he should spend the next five years doing some legwork into a policy position instead of losing another race
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Jul 16, 2019 20:48
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mormonpartyboat posted:"all he did was emphasize that he isnt ted cruz"
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Jul 16, 2019 20:52
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theflyingorc posted:You're being EXTREMELY weird posting is no doing a kickflip but ty
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Jul 16, 2019 20:57
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Can we stop calling him Beto? He is an average white dude that appropriated the nickname from Mexican culture in order to manipulate that population in Texas. O’Rourke (his actual last name) or boring rear end moron is better.How are u posted:He had an immense amount of national goodwill for coming so close to toppling Ted Cruz in loving Texas. He'd have had even more national support and momentum if he'd just tried again. Doesn't matter when the way they vote are virtually the same, and he has a history of strongly supporting Trump https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/beto-orourke/ I said come in! fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 20:57
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Reverend Dr posted:Self-Funding is a broad faced lie. He is not self-funding, he has loaned his campaign money, which his campaign will pay him back with interest. That particular grift requires other people or entities to also give your campaign money. Which rules it out for Delany. Unless you think Bernie or Warren are going to go around fundraising to retire Delany's debt like Obama did for Hillary.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:00
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I said come in! posted:Can we stop calling him Beto? He is an average white dude that appropriated the nickname from Mexican culture in order to manipulate that population in Texas. O’Rourke (his actual last name) or boring rear end moron is better. I would call him "Donkey Teeth," but as is so often the case, Jordan Peele got there before me: 
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Jul 16, 2019 21:02
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I said come in! posted:Can we stop calling him Beto? He is an average white dude that appropriated the nickname from Mexican culture in order to manipulate that population in Texas. O’Rourke (his actual last name) or boring rear end moron is better. He would have been a better choice than Ted Cruz, and he would be a better choice than John Cornyn. Sorry he's not communist enough for you. e: you've already shown yourself to be immensely ignorant of how the world works so why am I even bothering
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Jul 16, 2019 21:13
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With the sheer amount of money being spent on campaigns it's very clear that fundraising is to fuel the grift
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I said come in! posted:Can we stop calling him Beto? He is an average white dude that appropriated the nickname from Mexican culture in order to manipulate that population in Texas. O’Rourke (his actual last name) or boring rear end moron is better. outside of mixed company i call him dumb butt fart face head
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Jul 16, 2019 21:18
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How are u posted:He would have been a better choice than Ted Cruz, and he would be a better choice than John Cornyn. Sorry he's not communist enough for you. Cool centrist take. Your corrupt and racist favorite politician knows how to dabb though (that's about the only difference has has over Tedd Cruz), so I guess that's worth voting for him even after he promised he would never run for president in 2020. I said come in! fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 21:20
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How are u posted:He would have been a better choice than Ted Cruz, and he would be a better choice than John Cornyn. I feel like you should take a moment to reread what you've written here and reflect upon what a low bar you've set. "Less appallingly gross and racist than Ted Cruz or John Cornyn" encompasses a lot of the global population.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:29
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You: *ring the doorbell* Me: *open door* Me: come in You: how are u Me: I said come in!
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Jul 16, 2019 21:29
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How are u posted:He would have been a better choice than Ted Cruz, and he would be a better choice than John Cornyn. Sorry he's not communist enough for you. This reads like some parody post. It even includes the "you don't know how the world works" lol edit: The worst thing about these posts is that it's transparently obvious to anyone with a brain that what's really going on is that they like (insert politician) and don't like that other people are saying bad things about them. But they also don't really have any way to address the reasons people think that politician is bad, so they have to fall back on comparing them with Republicans (even in situations like this where "lesser evil" voting isn't even being discussed). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 21:36
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Primaries are the time for purity testing. Generals are for voting for the least evil candidate. Put a socialist on the 2020 Texas Senate ballot and (if I were a Texas resident) I would punch that ticket as hard as I could. I'd also punch it for Beto O'Rourke over loving Ted Cruz or John Cornyn, without a moment's hesitation, because I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. e: ^^^^^ nope, that's you putting words in my mouth. Beto is being rightfully humiliated on the national stage, where he never should have gone and does not belong. He already proved himself to be an excellent candidate for the state of Texas, which is where he should have stayed if he wanted another shot at the big league. I have no idea who is running in the Dem Senate primary in Texas, so there's probably people in there who are better than Beto and I would rather vote for than Beto. How are u fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Jul 16, 2019 21:44
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How are u posted:Primaries are the time for purity testing. Generals are for voting for the least evil candidate. Put a socialist on the 2020 Texas Senate ballot and (if I were a Texas resident) I would punch that ticket as hard as I could. I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't vote for him over those two shitlords; the question is, is he the best Texas can do? I would hope the answer is no. But also, this is probably not the thread for a hypothetical state-focused election. For now, Beto is running for president, and he's doing a very bad job of it. He'd crash and burn badly against Trump.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:45
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Majorian posted:I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't vote for him over those two shitlords; the question is, is he the best Texas can do? I would hope the answer is no. hes not even the best texas has in the actual real life primary going on right now lol
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Jul 16, 2019 21:50
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Majorian posted:I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't vote for him over those two shitlords; the question is, is he the best Texas can do? I would hope the answer is no. I would love for the bar in Texas to be raised to the point that a socialist could run as a Dem. I sure don't see it happening, though! I hope I'm proved wrong some day but until then you have to vote for the best option you are presented with. Or I guess you can throw up your hands and say gently caress the world and give up because we can't make it from Capitalism on Steroids to Socialist Paradise in a single step or a single election. I guess I could be that way.
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Jul 16, 2019 21:51
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Jul 16, 2019 21:52
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Majorian posted:I don't think anyone is saying they wouldn't vote for him over those two shitlords; the question is, is he the best Texas can do? I would hope the answer is no. I do think Texas can potentially do better than Beto, but policy wise, probably only by a bit. But I also think that for the race he was running he was at like 90th percentile or better on the "Texas Democrats who actually exist and might be interested in running" scale
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Jul 16, 2019 21:53
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Condiv posted:how many times is she gonna loving flip flop on this? How Many meeting does she have with bundlers?
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