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Facebook Aunt posted:I don't think it was a rule. They swear an oath until death, so he decides that his death discharged his oath and he is free. Didn't he also break his oath at that point by loving Ygritte?
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Coolguye posted:you know, after he (ab)uses his position to take revenge on a bunch of people who caused his death I never saw it, but I know that the kid stabs Jon Snow last. Does he murder that kid? A brave and honorable man.
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xtal posted:Didn't he also break his oath at that point by loving Ygritte? technically no. the oath is that they will "take no wife" and "father no children." any reasonable person could construe this as a ban on fuckin' but by the same token just lol if you think you're going to get a bunch of outcast dudes on the edge of the planet and tell them "ok no loving for real" and not expect all of them to be crossing their fingers and rolling their eyes when they say "yeah ok boss"
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the oath doesnt say anything about loving other dudes tho
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Fojar38 posted:the oath doesnt say anything about loving other dudes tho Ah, so it's like the Navy
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xtal posted:Didn't he also break his oath at that point by loving Ygritte? Coolguye posted:technically no. the oath is that they will "take no wife" and "father no children." In the books at least this is used as further proof of Snow breaking his oath and justifies his imprisonment, though those charges are clearly politically motivated. They also talk a lot about mole's town, where prostitutes live and the Watch members clearly regularly visit there, though they don't appear to be paid in any way so it's a mystery how they pay for sex. It seems like one of those things where they make you take an oath they expect you to break so you can be made to feel guilty, much like Christianity.
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Facebook Aunt posted:Bloodraven probably isn't a logistics expert either. Every hour spent using WargTube to learn about sewer maintenance and stormwater management is anour hour spent not spying on ladies in the bath. Better to use his abilities to predict that there's going to be a big storm in 2 days and pass it down the chain so the guy who is in charge of stormwater management knows make sure the drains aren't blocked or whatever. I mean sure but he was also hand of the king for a long time and ran a top tier spy network and then sat observing everything that went down for like 150 years I'm just saying as a ruler he'd probably be pretty fuckin good  obviously he'd want to delegate
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pseudanonymous posted:In the books at least this is used as further proof of Snow breaking his oath and justifies his imprisonment, though those charges are clearly politically motivated. They also talk a lot about mole's town, where prostitutes live and the Watch members clearly regularly visit there, though they don't appear to be paid in any way so it's a mystery how they pay for sex. It seems like one of those things where they make you take an oath they expect you to break so you can be made to feel guilty, much like Christianity. This is also accurate of every US military town.
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In the books they also mention some trade between Eastwatch-by-the-Sea and the Free Cities. So they maybe don't get paid as such but there is probably some kind of economy with money changing hands based on selling goods whether crafted or grown or taken as loot from rangings. Furs are probably valuable. They're more or less an autonomous state up there so they have to provide for their own maintenance plus whatever bone the lords in the 7 Kingdoms sometimes toss up. I'm assuming lords that get gamed into the Night's Watch still have family coffers to call upon. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Moridin920 posted:In the books they also mention some trade between Eastwatch-by-the-Sea and the Free Cities. So they maybe don't get paid as such but there is probably some kind of economy with money changing hands based on selling goods whether crafted or grown or taken as loot from rangings. Furs are probably valuable. I'm not saying that the Watch itself doesn't have any money, just the individual members don't get paid or anything, and there's not a real reason to hand them money, they only thing they could buy with it is sex basically, i guess clothes they can't wear, or maybe food. I guess noble members of the watch might have some money sent with them, but it's hard to believe that noble families are sending bags of coin thousands of miles just so they can buy hookers. There's no evidence of letters of rights or anything like that really, except the banks in the free cities (and insurance) but in Westeros there's very little evidence of anything other than cash on the barrel head financing.
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Right but I think that money probably filters down whether people doing side trades on their own time or just grifting off the NW funds?
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I'm sure some coin would filter out, it just seems like it would be really rare, and possibly even considered contraband, since one of the ways to escape the watch would be saving up some coin, buying some clothes, and riding somewhere and just lying and pretending you're from the free cities or whatever.
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xtal posted:Ah, so it's like the Navy It's like all the armed forces
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pseudanonymous posted:Cool cool. So there's like one weird trick to get out of the Night's Watch, which is to claim you were killed and brought back to life. Because he gets stabbed then taken to a room alone with a foreign demon worshipper who is a witch, and a pirate, those two claim he's dead, and then they claim he was brought back to life. Thankfully nobody questions this story. Or just be Sam, who's allowed to leave because plot?
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sam made sense in the political backdrop of the story because he was the only remaining scion of his family after dany murdered his dad and brother and his family was locally pretty popular so him leaving was sort of overlooked simply because nobody thought that much of him in the Watch and people thought quite a bit of him back home. now if anyone had bothered to tell a motherfucker that rather than expecting them to dig for themselves and put all those pieces together on our own time then maybe it would've been a good bit of arc. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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pseudanonymous posted:Cool cool. So there's like one weird trick to get out of the Night's Watch, which is to claim you were killed and brought back to life. Because he gets stabbed then taken to a room alone with a foreign demon worshipper who is a witch, and a pirate, those two claim he's dead, and then they claim he was brought back to life. Thankfully nobody questions this story. Those two, and the twenty dudes who stabbed him to death
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Doesn't matter too much because the king can just release you from the NW oaths anyway.
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Coolguye posted:sam made sense in the political backdrop of the story because he was the only remaining scion of his family after dany murdered his dad and brother and his family was locally pretty popular so him leaving was sort of overlooked simply because nobody thought that much of him in the Watch and people thought quite a bit of him back home. I mean I guess you're entitled to your opinion that this is somehow reasonable.
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Lord Commander Tollett [collapsing from stab wound]: "No, Sam...you're the most important character, the storyteller - I release you from your oath, now go and tell the world this [looks at camera] song of ice and fire..."
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Lord commander toilet
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Fake Sansa will win a Emmy award for most memorable supporting actress.
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mammarable
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Laterite posted:mammarable Thread's still got it!
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Solice Kirsk posted:Thread's still go tit!
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pseudanonymous posted:I mean I guess you're entitled to your opinion that this is somehow reasonable. it would've been if it was actually explained as such in the show rather than having to have all of this come out in interviews and poo poo. nobody liked sam in the NW and basically everyone who wasn't johnny s considered him at best dead weight. him leaving was just good riddance to bad rubbish as far as they were concerned, and back home the entire reason he'd been sent to the wall in the first place was his dad was an rear end in a top hat so nobody really cared thaaaat much about the situation. then when faced with the choice to either "deal with the fat kid who isn't a complete dicklicker" and "try to get new, non-lovely management out of kings landiaahahahhahahah" the other powers that be decided to just deal with the fat kid. it's fair enough when you lay it out like that, but naturally nobody loving laid it out like that at any point, so it all just comes off as cya afterthoughts.
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‘Game of Thrones’ Star Conleth Hill Calls Final-Season Backlash ‘a Media-Led Hate Campaign’ “You look at the amount of people that are here, and we’re here to thank you for watching us all these years,” Hill, who played Varys, said. “We’re very grateful for your fandom over the years and I think *this* is the reality rather than a media-led hate campaign,” he added, referencing the crowd. lmao dude was making GBS threads all over the ending the second the credits were rolling; his manager or whoever must have heard an earful to get this kind of backtracking.
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What's all this hubbub about the actors having to nominate themselves for awards consideration? Does that usually fall on the producers to submit an award application to the emmys or something?
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Will Smith: "some kinda song... of Ice, and Fire"
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Kazak posted:What's all this hubbub about the actors having to nominate themselves for awards consideration? Does that usually fall on the producers to submit an award application to the emmys or something? They submitted other people. These were people who got noms who submitted themselves on their own.
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Saint Drogo posted:Will Smith: "some kinda song... of Ice, and Fire"  I pulled up to the council about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the Night King, Yo homes, smell ya later I looked at my kingdom I'd finally come forth To sit on my throne as the Prince of the North
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Laterite posted:‘Game of Thrones’ Star Conleth Hill Calls Final-Season Backlash ‘a Media-Led Hate Campaign’ Obviously, you can see on a chart the perception and general opinion of the show deteriorate as there is less loving and nudity, so it's clearly a societal problem, these bandwagoning perverts that only watch for one reason and in reality there is nothing wrong with the show and the ending was great and bittetsweet. Hire me.
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Finally finished this show. Season 3 tittes were the best.
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The titties peaked earlier than the writing, which has some significance somewhere I'm sure.
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GOT: Stick them with the disappointy titties
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kloa posted:GOT: Stick them with the disappointy Saltwife titties Fixed that for you Theon.
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Great show, weak ending. I'd rather they left it after the Night King end scenes. *Raises hands slowly*
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I saw one of the actresses on the telly and remembered the thread Lol, no tits and the giant didn't step on anyone Gg showrunnwrs
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Lol did you see the script for the last episode they released? Turns out there was no symbolism behind the dragon melting the Throne, drogon was just angry and the throne "was a dumb bystander" in the way of his wrath.
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That was yet another loophole in the system. You see, after he had his little death that also released him from the oath.
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Donathros posted:Great show, weak ending. I'd rather they left it after the Night King end scenes.
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