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Hey this name was bequeathed to me by some random mod back when God was young and dinosaurs roamed the Earth. M_Gargantua posted:The house could probably pass a bill calling for the immediate shutdown of the concentration camps and humanitarian aide to those who have suffered in them. DHS is under the executive branch and is not under the purview of Congress. And then that would have just been struck down by the Senate regardless if it was anything more than a proclamation. I would love to have something to tell at my reps that they should have done. bird cooch fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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McNally posted:Anything I have the energy to type out in response to this would result in me having to probate myself. Onnit gov. Every single thing the bulk of the democratic party leadership is doing "against" Trump is entirely wiped out 2 hours later when he does a really funny fart out his mouth. This cycle has been repeated constantly since he became president. Any of: a) They don't care that the best farter since Franklin (bless him, mad nutter) is constantly owning them in a way that means he can do Nazi LARP 24/7; so they need replacing. b) They're loving terrible at everything and need replacing en mass because jesus christ. c) They secretly like what he's doing and being in opposition is pretty nice, power is pretty neat if you're that kind of Might have had a few beers, think that sums things up.
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Jul 17, 2019 00:16
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Hexyflexy posted:Onnit gov. I don't disagree but it doesn't answer any questions.
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Jul 17, 2019 00:34
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bird cooch posted:I don't disagree but it doesn't answer any questions. I got the vibe that “anything I post in response to this will result in me probating myself” was code for something But I don’t know what
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https://filedn.com/lA1dAM6GJzOy8eCDm2eVX88/fakes/omar_190716/omar1.mp4 This was done by a cspam poster
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did i miss anything in the past 150 posts
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Jul 17, 2019 00:43
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:did i miss anything in the past 150 posts Trump says racist thing Democrats can’t decide if they should call it racist because  Pelosi says it’s racist and gets put in time out The house votes that it’s racist Oh and something about how democrats have moved left/right (honestly probably 90% of the 150 posts)
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Jul 17, 2019 00:47
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://filedn.com/lA1dAM6GJzOy8eCDm2eVX88/fakes/omar_190716/omar1.mp4 These are really going to make this election season exciting. "up next on Fox did the Democratic presidential candidate actually say that he/she likes to eat babies? We will show you the video you decide!" bird cooch fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Jul 17, 2019 00:49
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bird cooch posted:These are really going to make this election season exciting. "Is Elizabeth Warren secretly Hillary Clinton in disguise? I talk to a former Breitbart collumist who now takes Haldol and says it can't be disproven! Up next, on Sean Hannity!"
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:did i miss anything in the past 150 posts Calling bird cooch cloaca was slightly amusing
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Jul 17, 2019 01:45
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https://abc7chicago.com/retired-supreme-court-justice-john-paul-stevens-dead-at-99/5400087/ Former US Supreme Court Justice Stevens, notable for making some solid votes on abortion, the death penalty, and the 2000 election, passed on.
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Jul 17, 2019 02:02
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bird cooch posted:DHS is under the executive branch and is not under the purview of Congress. Congress, particularly the House, has ways of making organizations and agencies outside its purview bend to its will.
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Jul 17, 2019 02:03
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Jul 17, 2019 02:21
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Casimir Radon posted:Maybe he'll use the n-word at his announcement press conference and the Republican electorate will all go "Hold on. Let's hear him out" These days are absolutely coming
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Jul 17, 2019 02:22
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“It’s not racist because black people say it” Who says this first? Trump? Hannity? JellyAnn Conway (lol I’m not fixing that typo)?
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Jul 17, 2019 02:41
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Cyks posted:in the most liberal part of South Carolina lmao no 1st district is carefully drawn to exclude charleston proper it's all suburbs, beachfront, and military bases
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Jul 17, 2019 02:50
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I guess my civics education was poo poo (it was) but short of impeachment what can the House do unilaterally to check the executive branch? Anything that requires the Senate will just never get a vote as long as Mitch is the Majority Leader. Similarly anything that originates in the Senate will also never get a vote in the House. Even if the House does impeach Trump, I imagine that sending it to the Senate for a vote will just result in a failure to remove him.
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Jul 17, 2019 03:02
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colachute posted:Serious question: did people who supported Jim Crow say they weren’t racist? And is any of it documented? Yes, Strom Thurmond. He said it was a states rights thing, not racism.
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Nystral posted:I guess my civics education was poo poo (it was) but short of impeachment what can the House do unilaterally to check the executive branch? I'm not american, but as far as I know, nothing. It was kept in check kind of by the executive simply not extending the powers it had much. Clinton, Bush through Obama all expanded the poo poo out of it, none of them expected a Trump. It was kind of inevitable really.
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Jul 17, 2019 03:08
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joat mon posted:Yes, Strom Thurmond. He said it was a states rights thing, not racism. (states' rights to be racist, that is)
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Jul 17, 2019 03:09
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A lot of the power that the executive branch now uses was given to them over the last 20 years by congress being afraid to do their jobs because unpopular actions might cost them an election. The Iraq War vote broke politician's brains.
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Hexyflexy posted:I'm not american, but as far as I know, nothing. It was kept in check kind of by the executive simply not extending the powers it had much. Clinton, Bush through Obama all expanded the poo poo out of it, none of them expected a Trump. It was kind of inevitable really. The Obama administration even went to Congress and asked for a new aumf the Congress said nah just use the one you got so that they didn't have to be held responsible for anything that happened. And now we're trying to reel it back in. (This is just one example, the executive has far too much reach) Federalist number #70 is actually an argument for a strong executive and takes a lot of time to examine the pitfalls if you want to do some homework. bird cooch fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Nystral posted:I guess my civics education was poo poo (it was) but short of impeachment what can the House do unilaterally to check the executive branch? - Enforce contempt citations instead of farting around (part may be due to showing "exhaustion" to the courts) - Kick the tires on inherent contempt and start jailing people (low chance of success, but why not at this point) - Threaten to defund agencies, refuse to compromise and/or play hardball with Senate/President (ie don't give ICE another goddamn dollar) - Hold hearing after hearing with witness after witness and whistleblower after whistleblower, a la Benjamin Ghazi - Attach poison pill riders and House-priority requirements to must-pass legislation and don't stop adding them just because republicans call you communists - Start impeachment proceedings on underlings that refuse to testify Edit: The main frustration with Democrats in congress is that they're barely touching any of the above. I mean gently caress, they gave ICE *MORE* money and Trump is still going to call them weak on the border, so stop loving around with this nonsense and fight back. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Jul 17, 2019 03:18
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facialimpediment posted:- Enforce contempt citations instead of farting around (part may be due to showing "exhaustion" to the courts) nevertheless, they assisted
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On Puerto rican news, current goverment is full of mysoginits and homophobes, also Education secretary commited $15.5 million in federal funding fraud between 2017 and 2019
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facialimpediment posted:- Enforce contempt citations instead of farting around (part may be due to showing "exhaustion" to the courts) -The house found Eric Holder in contempt, and exactly nothing happened to him. Not because he didn't actually do anything but because contempt amounts to a letter of counseling stuck in a desk drawer. -In 2017, the democratic house approval cratered because it shut down the government trying to stop the camps. In 2018, it squeaked out a win after Trump shut down the government over that loving wall. You think it's certain that the good people of this country will stand firm and back up the democrats if the house starts a showdown again? I don't think it's certain, not even likely. -On hearings? Yeah, they're having them. Nobody's reporting on them, so nobody's paying attention, or even knows they're loving having them. -There isn't going to be any must pass legislation until September. -Impeach everyone? Sure. Remember the  hearing? Remember the republicans huddling up just before Lindsey Graham came out, threw a red-faced tantrum about this gross miscarriage of justice, and got the vote he wanted? Hope you enjoyed that. Because you will see it over, and over, and over again.There is only so much power the democratic house has right now. And the only way they will get more power is with more popular support. Did you know a majority of the country doesn't want to impeach the president? Only a slight majority even want to start impeachment investigations. That's nothing to work with. Nothing. It's going to take more time to convince more people that we need to put a stronger brake on this poo poo. Because I can see that if the democrats put the full breaks on now, the public will punish them for it. Like they punished the democrats in 1994 for being too far left. Like they punished the democrats in 2010 for being too far left. Like they punished the democrats in 2017 for being too far left. I'm not trying to say anyone is wrong to be angry. I'm loving angry, and I know I'm right. So all of you pissed off fuckers must be right too. It's just there's some other stuff to focus on. Elijah Cummings is going to tear the current DHS secretary a new one Thursday over child separation and the camps. Maybe tune in to that.
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Ceiling fan posted:Did you know a majority of the country doesn't want to impeach the president? Only a slight majority even want to start impeachment investigations. That's nothing to work with. Nothing. I attribute this (edit: for democrat voters) almost entirely to Pelosi, the most visible Democrat for the last few years, telling any media outlet who will listen that impeachment is a bad idea, rather than that it might not be possible, which most people have taken at face value. That won't change so long as the top Democrat continues to campaign against it. As for the rest, there's going to be a lot of disillusioned leftists questioning the point of voting if the closest thing to representation they get does nothing but quit before they've even tried to fight back. Cultivating even the image of a willingness to fight a losing battle because the goal is worthwhile would, I think, go a long way. I'm not sure most of us have ever really seen that in our adult lives from our politicians. ZombieApostate fucked around with this message at 11:46 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Jul 17, 2019 05:43
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Strategically speaking starting impeachment proceedings too early with chance of him actually being removed would be a mistake. But now, now would be a good time.
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“If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”
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ZombieApostate posted:I attribute this almost entirely to Pelosi, the most visible Democrat for the last few years, telling any media outlet who will listen that impeachment is a bad idea, rather than that it might not be possible, which most people have taken at face value. That won't change so long as the top Democrat continues to campaign against it. Almost entirely. Barely partially--right wing media? Every republican senator and representative and right-wing lobbyists contribution is < 1 - barely partially...whatever that difference is? No, whatever sliver is left, split that with the Trump media engine and non-Trump media actors, we'll say 1 minus barely partially, subtract whatever the difference is, take away whatever sliver is left, and that constitutes the prior opinions of voters. More than any other cause--nay every other cause combined (I presume here "almost entirely" means at least more than half)--the lack of the people's desire to impeach the president is a Representative from California. If that is true, it would suggest that one member of the legislature is far more powerful than the president and the courts combined, since their combined opposition amounts to something less than whatever is left after almost entirely. Now that I've realized your point, I'm relieved that it's just rational people talking rationally, rationally astounded at these irrational actions by the Representative from California, the single most powerful entity in these States. A serious opinion taken seriously.
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piL posted:Almost entirely. Barely partially--right wing media? Every republican senator and representative and right-wing lobbyists contribution is < 1 - barely partially...whatever that difference is? No, whatever sliver is left, split that with the Trump media engine and non-Trump media actors, we'll say 1 minus barely partially, subtract whatever the difference is, take away whatever sliver is left, and that constitutes the prior opinions of voters. More than any other cause--nay every other cause combined (I presume here "almost entirely" means at least more than half)--the lack of the people's desire to impeach the president is a Representative from California. Sir, this is a Wendy's.
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piL posted:Almost entirely. Barely partially--right wing media? Every republican senator and representative and right-wing lobbyists contribution is < 1 - barely partially...whatever that difference is? No, whatever sliver is left, split that with the Trump media engine and non-Trump media actors, we'll say 1 minus barely partially, subtract whatever the difference is, take away whatever sliver is left, and that constitutes the prior opinions of voters. More than any other cause--nay every other cause combined (I presume here "almost entirely" means at least more than half)--the lack of the people's desire to impeach the president is a Representative from California. I'm half asleep and read Ceiling fan's post as being about democrats rather than the whole country, which made me think about a poll of democrats that I saw a while back that showed a margin of like 30-40 points between people who supported starting the impeachment process (low) and people who thought Trump had committed a crime (high). It was around the time Pelosi was constantly in the news being asked if she supported impeachment and she kept saying "no", instead of "not yet" or something similar. Clearly I didn't do a very good job of getting my thoughts across. edit: Diarrhea Elemental posted:Sir, this is a Wendy's. No, I think his point is reasonable. I hosed up getting my point across. Certainly the right wing has done a tremendous amount to gently caress up Republican voter's heads. I just didn't intend to comment on them. ZombieApostate fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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ZombieApostate posted:
I appreciate you being cool about it, but I think I made my point like an rear end in a top hat. Sorry for that.
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No biggie, even the  consuming the earth isn't big enough for that post as it was written, heh.
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So anyway the NY times did a write up on the Notre Dame fire and holy gently caress did the Paris firefighters pull off an amazing stop. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/07/16/world/europe/notre-dame.html?exclusive=0&action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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ElMaligno posted:On Puerto rican news, current goverment is full of mysoginits and homophobes, also Education secretary commited $15.5 million in federal funding fraud between 2017 and 2019 Touching on this for a bit: It seems like the PR governor isn’t going to step down or face serious consequences for the leaked group messages. Does PR have any kind of citizen-led recall / removal function? I’m not sure the PR legislative body is willing to impeach on their own.
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https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status...ingawful.com%2F
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We are all so loving stupid. https://twitter.com/ElizabethPW/status/1151315511801606144?s=19 Literally giving all our poo poo to Russia so we can use the old filter.
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There are videos of him and Trump 'partying together all over the internet at the moment. All pretty lame, though, no one pissing on anyone yet.
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