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Complications
Jun 19, 2014

Shima Honnou posted:

So you remember how India didn't have enough water? Well, the monsoon finally arrived and brought a murderous flood that's displaced over a million people across India, Nepal, and Bangladesh!
The monsoon isn't a uniform supply of rain. Chennai, for example, doesn't expect to get anything significant until October and have started getting trains of water in. Some people drown, some just want to have any.

quote:

The seeds of the crisis can be found in Velachery, a neighborhood named after one of Chennai’s many lakes. The lake was once deep and wide, but as the city grew, portions of it were filled in 20 years ago to make room for private homes.

Today, Mr. Jeevantham, 60, runs his motor seven hours a day to satisfy the needs of his own family of four and their tenants. It slurps water from 80 feet under the ground, slowly draining from the lake.

“The lake is God’s gift,” he marveled. But for how much longer? This, he didn't know. “Maybe five years,” he said, laughing uncomfortably.

[...]

And then there’s the air-conditioner. Everyone collects its drip. One day, when Rushyant Baskar woke up after working the night shift and turned on his water pump, a dry wheezing sound was all he heard. The buckets were empty, except the one under the air-conditioner. It was the only water he had.

It is exhausting, all this waiting, worrying and keeping vigil for water. Mr. Baskar said he was sleeping less than usual. His mother said she hadn’t had time to check in with relatives on the other side of town. It used to be that you came to the big city to chase money, Mr. Baskar said. “Now we run after water.”

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oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

india's a big place. here's the forecast for tomorrow:



poor chennai

the reason this stuff hasn't yet become this scale of a problem for cities in the american west is all the fuckin canals we have, carrying water across deserts and such. cape town and chennai haven't had the same infrastructure investments, i don't think

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I know nothing about Chennai's water infrastructure. What has caused it to become so dry? Is there usually a river that's gone dry due to heat, or a desalination plant that broke, or an aquifer that got tapped out, or ...? It presumably has had water in the past. Was it all just trapped rain reservoirs that evaporated?

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

hmm, let's see

edit: my point with the below is to say that they probably are having a drought that they don't have enough surface water storage to make it through. the article above seems to say they're tapping groundwater unsustainably as well

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_management_in_Chennai

this is full of contradictory poo poo, but the key thing for me is that they give a storage value for their reservoirs:

quote:

There are four reservoirs in the city, namely, Red Hills, Cholavaram, Poondi and Chembarambakkam, with a combined capacity of 11,057 mcft.

11,057 million cubic feet is 254 thousand acre feet. by comparison, the reservoir that supplies southern california, lake oroville, is 3.5 million acre feet, and there's another 4 million in shasta which could supply them in an emergency

lake mead, which supplies las vegas and phoenix, is at 10 million acre feet right now and that's considered really low

so it looks like chennai has an order of magnitude less water storage available than western american cities. the biggest potential issue for western american cities is probably the canals between them and these lakes getting broken by an earthquake

btw chennai's metro area has 8.6 million people while socal has 24 million, las vegas has 2.2, and phoenix has 4.8

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 15:11 on Jul 15, 2019

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/chriscmooney/status/1151172881314959361?s=20

Wrenever
Jul 22, 2007


Three cheers for the new normal

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Wrenever posted:

Three cheers for the new normal
:woop: :woop: :woop:
i am unbelievably excited to watch earth death unfold. all this super weather pwning america is like :discourse:

real shame about da rest of the world tho, rip india.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
Ann Arbor sucks poo poo and is so deep up its own rear end in a top hat about how progressive and liberal they think they are you can't imagine they'll ever emerge. gently caress Ann Arbor and the people who love that bullshit blue bubble incapable of self-reflection.

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

How are u posted:

Ann Arbor sucks poo poo and is so deep up its own rear end in a top hat about how progressive and liberal they think they are you can't imagine they'll ever emerge. gently caress Ann Arbor and the people who love that bullshit blue bubble incapable of self-reflection.

ferndale is way better

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

here's an article on los angeles-area future heat projections, since we're on that topic
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-extreme-heat-20150514-htmlstory.html

quote:

By 2050, parts of Los Angeles County are forecast to experience triple or quadruple the number of days of extreme heat if nothing is done to control greenhouse gas emissions, placing further demand on the region’s drinking water and electricity, according to two new reports by UCLA scientists.

That could mean that by mid-century, downtown Los Angeles could see an average of 22 days of extreme heat — days in which the high temperature exceeds 95 degrees — up from an annual average of six days recorded between 1981 and 2000.

The San Gabriel Valley could see the number of extreme heat days rise from 32 a year to 74. Long Beach? From four days a year to 16.

The results point to a hotter, drier future as Los Angeles faces climate change.
similar things are happening in the rest of the state, except that the north probably won't get drier, it'll just get more of its precip from big damaging storms

ChipNDip
Sep 6, 2010

How many deaths are prevented by an executive order that prevents big box stores from selling seeds, furniture, and paint?

How are u posted:

Ann Arbor sucks poo poo and is so deep up its own rear end in a top hat about how progressive and liberal they think they are you can't imagine they'll ever emerge. gently caress Ann Arbor and the people who love that bullshit blue bubble incapable of self-reflection.

The state of Michigan in general has gotten way too up their own assholes about how cool and underrated they are.

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.

ChipNDip posted:

The state of Michigan in general has gotten way too up their own assholes about how cool and underrated they are.

downstate michigan sucks

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

ChipNDip posted:

The state of Michigan in general has gotten way too up their own assholes about how cool and underrated they are.

Don't worry climate change has decided we're gonna have flash floods today.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

oystertoadfish posted:

here's an article on los angeles-area future heat projections, since we're on that topic
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-extreme-heat-20150514-htmlstory.html

similar things are happening in the rest of the state, except that the north probably won't get drier, it'll just get more of its precip from big damaging storms

The funny thing is that so far California has had an incredibly mild summer, one of the nicest in years

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Spime Wrangler posted:

downstate michigan sucks

Non north woods Michigan is effectively just Ohio

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

The Glumslinger posted:

The funny thing is that so far California has had an incredibly mild summer, one of the nicest in years

Yeah this heatwave in the northeast is on the heels of two mild summers lol we were so fuckin due for the hammer

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Minneapolis had a storm pop up out of nowhere when rain wasn't even forecast for the day. Suddenly it went from a clear day to sewer manholes overflowing like geysers and streets turned into rivers.

https://twitter.com/mark_tarello/status/1151255336789118977
Second time in two weeks! Love this new normal. :)

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

That's 43°C.

drat, that genuinely hot no matter who you are.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The best part about the flash floods in Minneapolis is they come out of the blue then the storm fucks off just as fast, leaving really great lighting for the aftermath shots.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
That seems pretty hot

How will this affect the corn harvest?

Car Hater
May 7, 2007

wolf. bike.
Wolf. Bike.
Wolf! Bike!
WolfBike!
WolfBike!
ARROOOOOO!
What the gently caress is all this Michigan chat? *Drowns and dies in a heatwave in Detroit*

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

twoday posted:

That seems pretty hot

How will this affect the corn harvest?

apparently it's bad, combined with the tons of rain earlier in the season. i'm kind of annoyed by this article bc they don't say any specifics about how the heat will affect corn, but mr farmer getting interviewed in illinois doesn't like it

https://www.kwqc.com/content/news/Farmers-concerned-about-heat-wave-512816581.html

quote:

"We've gone from one extreme to the other, from too wet to being to now being too hot and dry," says Geneseo farmer Justin Weber.

The impact of the unusually heavy and continuous rain this spring is still visible. Patches of water that looked like small ponds now look like small puddles...

The unusually high rainfall also delayed planting season by about a month and a half...

The corn is only a few feet high and barren, but Webber says "usually this time in July the corn would be well over my head and tasseled and also pollinating an ear of corn."

edit: this article is also mostly about rain too, despite the headline, there's a quick bit where some guy says the heat wave will cool off by next week, so i'm guessing the heat itself isn't long-lasting enough to be a big factor

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/us-heat-wave-to-hit-at-a-critical-time-for-crops-and-farmers/70008828

quote:

The heat won’t last beyond the weekend, according to Nicholls, which is good for farmers. “It cools off late in the weekend and the temperatures are pretty ideal next week,” Nicholls said. “However, we’re in a pattern for below-normal rain. The temperatures are better but there’s just no low-level moisture, so they can’t manufacture any rain there.

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 14:14 on Jul 17, 2019

dew worm
Apr 20, 2019

twoday posted:

That seems pretty hot

How will this affect the corn harvest?

First crops looking a bit strange

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Pepperoneedy
Apr 27, 2007

Rockin' it



dew worm posted:

First crops looking a bit strange



Country girls make do

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

Pepperoneedy posted:

Country girls make do

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
michigan is pretty crap, we're just midwest, despite what everyone here chooses to believe.

its not gonna be the water wonderland anymore once the nearly 70 year old enbridge pipeline bursts in the bottom of lake superior

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

michigan is pretty crap, we're just midwest, despite what everyone here chooses to believe.

its not gonna be the water wonderland anymore once the nearly 70 year old enbridge pipeline bursts in the bottom of lake superior

remind me again why they put an oil pipeline through the bottom of a very large freshwater body that people need again???

ever removing that would be insane

Spime Wrangler
Feb 23, 2003

Because we can.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

michigan is pretty crap, we're just midwest, despite what everyone here chooses to believe.

its not gonna be the water wonderland anymore once the nearly 70 year old enbridge pipeline bursts in the bottom of lake superior

line 5 goes through the Mackinac straight, not superior

it’s still dumb as heck and Michigan conservatives are bootlickers

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
i don't know why i always mix that up.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
It's pretty cool Duluth died and there's basically no commercial or industrial stuff (that ore dock in Marquette is all I can think of) anywhere on the biggest lake in the world

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Pepperoneedy posted:

Country girls make do

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
can't wait for the heatwave to hit and for it to be like 120 in the warehouse at work.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

can't wait for the heatwave to hit and for it to be like 120 in the warehouse at work.

You probably outnumber your boss dozens or hundreds to one, and you have nothing to lose but your chains.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
It's been raining in NYC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Vwv6Khu6o

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




Pepperoneedy posted:

Country girls make do

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

after the rain passed it became so hot that the pavement melted and started leaking into the subway

https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/1152244458538393601?s=20

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

the heat really fucks with the minds of our young people.

the last two days on the job aged be about a million years

gonna start a teacher band and name it Indoor Recess

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Over Easy posted:

the heat really fucks with the minds of our young people.

the last two days on the job aged be about a million years

gonna start a teacher band and name it Indoor Recess

nice haiku

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

twoday posted:

after the rain passed it became so hot that the pavement melted and started leaking into the subway

https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/1152244458538393601?s=20

Krang is concerned because that's how you get ninja turtles

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Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
A storm and rain so strong here in Detroit that the truckyard at work is closed for safety purposes. There's literally 30 semis parked in a line up the service road waiting for this to end and it just keeps kicking up every time it looks to be ending.

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