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Minus Green posted:See, one of the numerous problems Fates had was that it totally glossed over worldbuilding for countries not named "Hoshido", "Nohr", or "Valla". They didn't even give a name to the continent it takes place on... pretty much every character not directly within the nohrian and hoshido stable represents an individual country that "exists," usually for a single chapter i think scarlet's gets two
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I liked Conquest gameplay  .cheetah7071 posted:Conquest map design is mostly a series of tricky enemy formations, repeated ad nauseum. You almost never have to think more than a turn or two into the future. A few maps with that design would be a nice novelty but not every map. Both very true. I guess I didn't mind -- and even liked -- the former (I see it as more of a 'tactical' (turn-by-turn) kind of gameplay as opposed to 'strategic' (longer-term map-wide strategy)). I absolutely loved early Heroes challenge maps for that very reason, until I started feeling my team falling farther and farther behind from the powercreep. The best kinds of skill innovations are the movement skills (which is only impactful on small, bite-sized Heroes maps), and skills that require positioning. Giving up a turn to reposition is great, Guidance is great, Bond skills are great. Unfortunately none of these translate well to larger maps with more units -- basically, Guidance and Bond skills kind of come for 'free', rather than requiring careful planning to set them up. Anyway, my hype for 3H has died down recently somewhat, for some reason. It's all good, though. Just means I'll go in with the minimum of expectations and will probably come out of it pleasantly surprised. facepalmolive fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Re: silent Byleth -- aren't there already confirmed Japanese voice actors for both Byleths? Doesn't that mean that yknow, they do have a voice? Unless the entirety of Byleth's voice is like, in-combat grunts and yells.
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Allegra Clark confirmed as Shamir and Dorothea.facepalmolive posted:Anyway, my hype for this game has died down recently somewhat, for some reason. It's all good, though. Just means I'll go in with the minimum of expectations and will probably come out of it pleasantly surprised. Literally every post you say about why you like FE is not Three Houses, I would suggest mutant zero or battle tech. Like honestly, the game is in a direction where you'll end up wasting 60 bucks for you.
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https://twitter.com/AbbyTrott/status/1151673381198020608 A lot of transplants from FE Heroes are debuting, which makes sense. They need to farm a poo poo ton of VA's for this game that's in their record books already.
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Well, the boyfriend is getting it anyway, so won't be my money. I'll let him be my guinea pig. There's been some rumors that Claude route maps are great, and Team Claude was already best team anyway, so I haven't abandoned all hope yet. I don't think I'll hate the game by any means, and sorry for party pooping if that's what I've been coming across as. Also trashing on inferior houses and people with inferior tastes, like Team Edgeguard, is fun.
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The warning is only that you leaned towards the gameplay and tried to skip over as much as the talking bits as possible. Three houses, from all reports, is like 60, maybe 70% of the rpg aspects and the least amount of tactical rpg per minute. edit: https://mobile.twitter.com/FayeMata/status/1151679196919291904 Tae fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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facepalmolive posted:Re: silent Byleth -- aren't there already confirmed Japanese voice actors for both Byleths? Doesn't that mean that yknow, they do have a voice? They might, just might, have a single line in a cutscene. Aside from that, expect nothing but grunts and battle quotes.
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Geostomp posted:They might, just might, have a single line in a cutscene. Aside from that, expect nothing but grunts and battle quotes. I know one person on Reddit who says they’ve played the game said that Byleth basically spends the game nodding like a Persona MC. Which will really make their supports boring if true.
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hopeandjoy posted:I know one person on Reddit who says they’ve played the game said that Byleth basically spends the game nodding like a Persona MC. To be fair, 2/3 of the mainline FEs with player-created characters would probably have been better off with them not saying anything for the entire game, including in supports. With this kind of silent protag, there'll probably be at least some choices in the support convos.
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If Kaiji Tang doesnt voice someone in this game, I will kill God.
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Endorph posted:It is interesting how Three Houses has abandoned basically every idea Fates had, mechanically. The only thing that really seems to be here is the idea of a homebase, but it's implemented so differently. Not too surprising. Intelligent Systems rotates directors for games within their franchises.
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Tired Moritz posted:If Kaiji Tang doesnt voice someone in this game, I will kill God. It's a JRPG. Even odds you'll kill a god anyway.
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I am all in on making Raphael my dancer. This is all that matters now.
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I had a thought on if there's a restriction on many dancers you can have, or since it's a relative late game class, unlimited EXP doesn't matter as much.
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Tae posted:I had a thought on if there's a restriction on many dancers you can have, or since it's a relative late game class, unlimited EXP doesn't matter as much. If they don't limit the dancers you can class into or deploy I'm guessing at the very least it'll work like Heroes where you can't Dance someone who has Dance
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I missed some obvious info apparently, the game does have dual audio.
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Looking at the Master Classes I'm really hoping there are some hidden ones because forcing every character to grab really high levels of Flying or Riding unless they're a punch dude or magic lady is incredibly weird and lovely. There's also just a gap in a lot of 'obvious' promotion paths which is weird. Like no male class gets Reason and Faith at Master level even though up until then basically every magic class does and you have to do a hard pivot into 'also Lances and riding(and you're stuck with just healing or attack magic now)' or 'also Swords(but only if you just want attack magic)' for any of your magic dudes. And women can just pound sand if they want to punch stuff. Or the lack of any support for the Axe/Brawling/Bow archetype from low levels. Weapon distribution in general is super weird. Only one class with Faith/Bows/Brawling/Armor apiece, only two with Axes/Flying and even only three with Swords but four requiring riding and five requiring lances. It feels like it really pidgeonholes kids who have bad riding aptitude. I feel like I'm just missing something with the class design. Zore fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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What I'm hoping for is that you're not expected to have a team full of Master Classes and that Advanced Classes will be good enough for the endgame.
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Hellioning posted:What I'm hoping for is that you're not expected to have a team full of Master Classes and that Advanced Classes will be good enough for the endgame. The reviewers and people with early access are saying they're all definitely a tier up from the Advanced classes with much higher bases and better skills I guess we'll see once more people report on the endgame.
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Ideally Master Classes act as a compliment to Advance classes, rather than "get here or gently caress off". They have fancier combinations and maybe more eclectic skills to offset their requirements but at the same time don't outclass whatever their closest counterpart is. e: well never mind about that, i guess...
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Tired Moritz posted:If Kaiji Tang doesnt voice someone in this game, I will kill God.
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Zore posted:The reviewers and people with early access are saying they're all definitely a tier up from the Advanced classes with much higher bases and better skills Well that sucks.
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I think the master classes only show up once you’ve met the requirements for them. It might be that we haven’t seen them all yet
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Tae posted:Robin was incredibly popular Female Robin romancing Chrom works well in the context of that game IMO. Though even as male Robin that game has a kind of neat dynamic with the more "protagonist-y" character not being the player character. Tae posted:The base game is designed for normal, which almost every reviewer says is too easy, while factoring in casual mode and turn wind at 3 uses at the start. From my experience with Awakening/Fates, I'm finally gonna wise up this time and do Hard difficulty but without "units die permanently" on. Previously I did Normal difficulty with units dying permanently, and it totally sucked because my victory in stages was never in question, but I'd constantly have to restart them due to getting unlucky and having a unit get crit or something. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Zore posted:Looking at the Master Classes I'm really hoping there are some hidden ones because forcing every character to grab really high levels of Flying or Riding unless they're a punch dude or magic lady is incredibly weird and lovely. Since the game lets you change classes to anything a character is certified for (including while placing units on the map pre-battle), and the way certification exams work in general, it seems like the intent is for the player to swap characters around for what they need for any given battle instead of the traditional Fire Emblem progression structure. But then again the game may be like "lol you only get 5 Master Class seals in the game without purchasing the DLC" and force you to make tough decisions.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I'm glad personal skills are sticking around. Most aren't especially interesting but I enjoy the tiny bit of extra flavour they bring. To expand on this a bit, you can only begin to use pair up once your professor skill reaches a certain level (C I believe), and then it's only for one pairing. And you get one more pair for ever further level in your professor skill, meaning at most 3 pairs at rank A.
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Well this turned my verdict from "wait and see" to "stay the gently caress away!"
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Torrannor posted:To expand on this a bit, you can only begin to use pair up once your professor skill reaches a certain level (C I believe), and then it's only for one pairing. And you get one more pair for ever further level in your professor skill, meaning at most 3 pairs at rank A. Oh yeah, I actually do kinda remember hearing about this. I guess it's not so bad if it's like your reward for reaching certain milestones.
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Araxxor posted:Well this turned my verdict from "wait and see" to "stay the gently caress away!" It's just one reviewer? Why not retain your "wait and see" attitude, and look how the thread regulars judge the game after playing it?
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russ frushtick is a turbo weenie and i bet he genuinely enjoyed the plot of fire emblem fates for the nintendo 3ds
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so apparently three houses broke street date in China, so maybe some spoilers might pop up soon. Who knows
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GenericMartini posted:so apparently three houses broke street date in China, so maybe some spoilers might pop up soon. Who knows No, it was a screenshot from a (Switch) friend of a reviewer in China showing the person had starting playing nine days ago, that’s all
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Zoran posted:Byleth can not become a Dancer. Game officially trash.
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Minus Green posted:See, one of the numerous problems Fates had was that it totally glossed over worldbuilding for countries not named "Hoshido", "Nohr", or "Valla". They didn't even give a name to the continent it takes place on... They don’t deserve even that much credit: Hoshido has no worldbuilding to speak of and the only bit of Valla to get history was Ananakos himself. Hoshido only exists in to be Perfect Glorious Nippon and Valla is a glorified plot device.
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Torrannor posted:It's just one reviewer? Why not retain your "wait and see" attitude, and look how the thread regulars judge the game after playing it? how else is the thread supposed to know they Hate Fates without being performative about it
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Geostomp posted:They don’t deserve even that much credit: Hoshido has no worldbuilding to speak of and the only bit of Valla to get history was Ananakos himself. Hoshido only exists in to be Perfect Glorious Nippon and Valla is a glorified plot device. I feel like you're giving Nohr too much credit here by omission.
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