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does this count? https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1151532812522205186?s=20 https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1151789036031356930?s=20
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Jul 18, 2019 12:15
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That business model sounds ridiculous and I have no idea how they think they will make their money back. A paid subscription for premier league news?
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skasion posted:That business model sounds ridiculous and I have no idea how they think they will make their money back. A paid subscription for premier league news? No, they cover basically every sport. But to answer your question: they'll keep expanding and burning through investor cash until they go public and lay off half their writers.
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They've also got James Pearse from The Echo, I think. Taylor and Kay will be big losses. If they have any sort of into offer, I will probably consider it. Not sure how successful it will be as people aren't used to paying for that sort of thing over here, but The Guardian is the only good source I know of that isn't behind a paywall.
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Jul 18, 2019 12:34
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Who was the Guardian writer with that haircut? Did he go over?
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Mickolution posted:They've also got James Pearse from The Echo, I think. Taylor and Kay will be big losses. They have a free trial. I just don’t get the business model. Online sports journalism is not a new concept, and news outlets generally find it difficult to survive behind a paywall. Their solution seems to be that they’re going to pay big name writers more to write for them, but I doubt there is really much of a market for what they’re selling, especially when they will be competing against free services. I’m also going to be interested to see whether Ornstein keeps his sources or if the clubs just choose another journalist who isn’t paywalled to be their outlet for selectively leaked transfer news
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Who was the Guardian writer with that haircut? Did he go over? Metro reporter Jamie Sanderson?
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blue footed boobie posted:They have a free trial. The same made up bullshit but this time you have to pay for it
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hadji murad posted:Metro reporter Jamie Sanderson? Tbh I don’t really care if he did or not it’s just an excuse to post this haircut again 
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CyberPingu posted:Incoming paycuts for people at Fiat again then beaten to this
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United: “give us 75m for Lukaku” Also United: “take 62m for Auba”
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All of the publications who have lost writers will just hire younger journalists who can probably write just as well and make up just as much bullshit as the ones who have left
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Tbh I don’t really care if he did or not it’s just an excuse to post this haircut again The destro/bud spencer image but this and el Shaarawy. I lol every time.
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Vegetable posted:Who’s Juventus selling to pay for this exorbitance Probably the rest of the missiles the police didn’t find.
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blue footed boobie posted:I just don’t get the business model. Online sports journalism is not a new concept, and news outlets generally find it difficult to survive behind a paywall. Their solution seems to be that they’re going to pay big name writers more to write for them, but I doubt there is really much of a market for what they’re selling, especially when they will be competing against free services. There are fewer and fewer good free services, though. The Guardian & The Independent are the only ones I can think of, really and The Independent website is awful. As for The Guardian, there are only a few of their writers who are actually any good and one of them (at least) is off to The Athletic. I remember people saying they wouldn't pay for Sky when the PL started or Spotify when they started but convenience won out. Not saying it will be good or a success, but it would be interesting to get a bunch of good writers in the one place for a set fee. It seems like they have had some success in the US, so maybe they'll run the UK stuff at a loss for the moment. Raffles posted:How much is it monthly after the free trial? They haven't announced the prices yet. I saw someone on Twitter guess it would be £8pm. In the US, it's $4.99 or $9.99 depending on how long you sign up for. https://theathletic.com/checkout/?plan_id=46&pc=hp7dben Mickolution fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Full price is about $60/year. And they usually have sales/discount code for new user. They recently had a 40% off sale for new users during the July 4th weekend. As for content, The Athletic is more about quality over clickbait articles. They usually have some good long form articles and in depth profile/analysis/feature. It somewhat is successful in the US, at least through reputation. There was an interview couple years ago where they mention that they have a retention of 90% of its subscriber.
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this thread's reaction is basically the hockey thread's reaction whenever the athletic first started, now like half the articles people link are athletic articles of note: i have never had a subscription and so have never read any of them
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i feel like these journalist have their sources because they work for the big publications. so leaks will just go to their replacements.
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Bea Nanner posted:i feel like these journalist have their sources because they work for the big publications. so leaks will just go to their replacements. Nah, decent journalists develop sources on their own and tend to keep them when they change outlets. Some of these people are definitely just "the guy who writes about football for the Sun" or whatever and will probably flop without that, but the likes of Ornstein are not going to struggle. E: Maybe also worth noting that two of the Athletic's biggest investors are Founders Fund (Peter Thiel) and the Chernin Group (Barstool owners), in case you're particular about who you give your money to. wicka fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Big Huski Boi posted:Nah, decent journalists develop sources on their own and tend to keep them when they change outlets. Some of these people are definitely just "the guy who writes about football for the Sun" or whatever and will probably flop without that, but the likes of Ornstein are not going to struggle. I agree with this - I think the better ones all have personal relationships with their contacts as opposed to being sort of managed by a business. poo poo ones will always just be associated with whatever publication they are working for and that's it. bewbies posted:this thread's reaction is basically the hockey thread's reaction whenever the athletic first started, now like half the articles people link are athletic articles This is what happened to me when ESPN+ became a thing. Once I caved I began to really enjoy it; it's worth the 5 bucks a month. I have no idea if the Athletic is a decent publication but if they provide the content I like then whatever.
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Gigi Galli posted:This is what happened to me when ESPN+ became a thing. Once I caved I began to really enjoy it; it's worth the 5 bucks a month. I have no idea if the Athletic is a decent publication but if they provide the content I like then whatever. I was so mad about ESPN+ initially but it is absolutely worth it. I'm pretty sure I could sit down and watch uninterrupted live football until I die. They have so many leagues.
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I'd possibly pay if they got the Guardian Cartoonist and maybe Joan Cornella to do strips about football fans killing themselves.
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Jul 18, 2019 16:21
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Yeah, I don't need football coverage enough to give money to Thiel and Barstool
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Barstool, no. I don’t agree with Thiel’s politics but he did bankrupt Gawker so there’s that
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Liverpool have lowkey signed Harvey Elliott from Fulham but aren't talking about it because of compensation with Fulham. Apparently he's going to train with the first team and go from there.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Barstool, no. I don’t agree with Thiel’s politics but he did bankrupt Gawker so there’s that Uh that was really bad
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Uh that was really bad Shutting down Gawker can only be seen as a positive
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Gawker was good as hell, but even if you disagree, you surely can't congratulate Thiel for allowing the remaining blogs to survive and later employ Billy Haisley.
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Big Huski Boi posted:Gawker was good as hell, but even if you disagree, you surely can't congratulate Thiel for allowing the remaining blogs to survive and later employ Billy Haisley. Idk who that is because I don’t read any of their blogs, but Gawker publicly thumbed their noses at a judge and rightfully got an absolute curb stomping as a result. The same site that regularly tore down other sites for posting leaked pics and videos did the exact same thing but it was ok because it was the Hulks wrinkly body
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Big Huski Boi posted:Gawker was good as hell, but even if you disagree, you surely can't congratulate Thiel for allowing the remaining blogs to survive and later employ Billy Haisley. Haisley is so awful, Paez-Pumar is a much better writer and should write all of their football articles
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My favourite transfer was when Peter Thiel helped transfer hundreds of million dollars to big roidy racist Hulk Hogan's bank account
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lol i hope this is real because way to piss off a bunch of players 
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