Edge & Christian posted:Spitfire is still the original Spitfire, youthful thanks to being a vampire. Yeah, a lot of Cap's World War 2 buddies are retcons. Hell, the Invaders as a team were made up in the late 60s to tie Namor and Cap into Marvel continuity. The All-Winners Squad were brought back into continuity much later, and I think the Cap they were with wasn't even Steve Rogers. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Kind of? The AWS was brought back as the post-war version of the war-time Invaders retcon, so their canonical war-time adventures I think were all moved over to being done under the Invaders moniker, and then of course that meant that Steve Rogers was never part of the AWS because he was frozen during the final days of WWII so it was like the Patriot or someone similar taking up the mantle.
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Has The Lizard (Dr. Curt Conners) ever been to space? Secret Wars does not count. get komodo and sauron in on this and I'm down
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Roth posted:Very important question: Why does Tony wear his Iron Man helmet in the hot tub? Relatedly, the first part of that issue has so much thrumming erotic subtext between Cap, Tony and Thor, I almost didn't believe I was reading a Marvel comic. Strong approval of Aaron's willingness to introduce those vibes.
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Skwirl posted:You're editing of my post makes it look like I said I never clamored for killing Hitler. I just want to point out I applaud ever time Hitler dies. That wasn't my intention, just to make that clear.
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Alhazred posted:That wasn't my intention, just to make that clear. I didn't think it was, just thought it was funny.
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I've seen it mentioned that the current X-Men run is one of the worst ever. Can somebody give me the rundown of why it's so bad?
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Gavok posted:I've seen it mentioned that the current X-Men run is one of the worst ever. Can somebody give me the rundown of why it's so bad? They killed Rahne Sinclair in a very terrible "trans panic defense" metaphor, and then it proceeded to get worse. Edit: this is just in Uncanny. What I've heard and the small part I've read of Age of X-Man is good to okay.
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Gavok posted:I've seen it mentioned that the current X-Men run is one of the worst ever. Can somebody give me the rundown of why it's so bad? Most of the art has been pretty bad; Larroca's best days are in the past. Besides that, there has been a death for each issue, starting with Blindfold's suicide (and later the aforementioned Wolfsbane death), most of them for no good reason besides an attempt to be grimdark. Also, the plot is just bad; it has a pretty bad tone that doesn't match the rest of the X-Books nor the rest of Marvel's books. And on top of that, the plot has a very dumb anti-vaccination theme, that may be unintentional, but comes at a very wrong time.
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Gavok posted:I've seen it mentioned that the current X-Men run is one of the worst ever. Can somebody give me the rundown of why it's so bad? Reading between the lines, the writer (Rosenberg) may have been told that Hickman was coming on in a years time and that everything would be undone. So he set about doing some sort of grim, bleak take on the X-Men. Like say what you will about Austen's run, he at least seemed to enjoy what he was doing and liked most of the X-Men. (Why else would you give Nightcrawler two penises if you didn't like him.)
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The Question IRL posted:Reading between the lines, the writer (Rosenberg) may have been told that Hickman was coming on in a years time and that everything would be undone. So he set about doing some sort of grim, bleak take on the X-Men. If I ever get to write the X-Men, mark my words, I'll slap a third one on down there.
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Archyduchess posted:If I ever get to write the X-Men, mark my words, I'll slap a third one on down there.
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He was born with one dick, it just kind of happened one day, unrelated to his mutation
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Lunatic Sledge posted:get komodo and sauron in on this and I'm down Sssssspace Force Sssssix
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Could someone give a quick synopsis of what 'Age of X-Man' is? Is it another 'whoops someone screwed up the past!' like Age of Apocalypse or 'whoops someone rewrote reality!' like Age of X, or is it something else entirely?
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LadyPictureShow posted:Could someone give a quick synopsis of what 'Age of X-Man' is? Nate Grey tried to build a utopian reality and hosed it up. It's a rewrite like Age of X but thematically it was intended to mirror Age of Apocalypse as like a "what if AoA but not lovely" sort of a deal.
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Gotcha, thanks! Given the titles I saw, like Prisoner X, am I right in assuming they stopped all X-titles for a few months to run these like they did when Age of Apocalypse came out?
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LadyPictureShow posted:Could someone give a quick synopsis of what 'Age of X-Man' is? A way to kill time before Hickman's run starts. LadyPictureShow posted:Given the titles I saw, like Prisoner X, am I right in assuming they stopped all X-titles for a few months to run these like they did when Age of Apocalypse came out? Uncanny is still going, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you like mutant snuff.
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I'd only recommend it if you hate mutant stuff myself
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I kind of like Age of X-Man, but mostly because it's a change of pace from the standard alternate realities which usually involve the bad guys winning or some sort of violent takeover, whereas the fiction created by the person who created this alternate reality is one of total peace and harmony by denying familial or romantic love, mostly because the dude creating it is a cloned volcel whose first real pseudo-romantic relationship was with a demonic clone of his mom that turned out to be a replica of the demonic clone of his mom that he created with his mind. Admittedly this is better than most people's justification for saying FAMILIES AND GIRLFRIENDS ARE BULLSHIT, but it's still a fresh spin on Dystopian Alternate Reality and the people working on the books did some fun stuff.
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Edge & Christian posted:I kind of like Age of X-Man, but mostly because it's a change of pace from the standard alternate realities which usually involve the bad guys winning or some sort of violent takeover, whereas the fiction created by the person who created this alternate reality is one of total peace and harmony by denying familial or romantic love, mostly because the dude creating it is a cloned volcel whose first real pseudo-romantic relationship was with a demonic clone of his mom that turned out to be a replica of the demonic clone of his mom that he created with his mind. I never thought about that aspect of Nate Grey's character. Suddenly that fanfic* I read in the early 2000's where Nate has sex with Rachel Grey in the midst of a larger orgy makes more sense. * = I believe it was called the Submission Agenda. It was an awful story where the main self insert guy had the power to enslave women by having sex with them. He keeps enslaving people until he gets the Phoenix by which point he takes over the Earth. I'm fairly sure the ending was Galatcus coming to town to stomp him out and he uses cosmic shenanigans to remake the entire Marvel universe...without any super powered stuff. Which is both hilarious and depressing at the same time.
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LadyPictureShow posted:Gotcha, thanks! All the titles ended except for Uncanny - which is focusing on the characters who were 'out of action' during the lead-in to Age of X-Man and so didn't get caught up in Nate's whole "gently caress this I'm gonna make my own reality with blackjack and a complete lack of hookers" whammy. It's also Very Not Good, one of the most joyless and miserable runs on Uncanny that I can remember, so I don't recommend it. (that's a semi-important point, btw; X-Man didn't overwrite reality, really, he essentially built his own little pocket reality. As far as anyone else knows, all the characters who got spirited away into Age of X-Man actually got blown up) The event was absolutely intended to thematically mirror House of M more than anything else, down to the logos of some of the books (The Amazing Nightcrawler was intended to hit the same sort of thematic notes as the Amazing Spider-Man issues of House of M, right down to the logo; they both deal with themes of 'being really famous in this alternate reality despite maybe not really deserving it,' et cetera), but in terms of how this alternate reality was brought into existence it's probably closer to Age of X's 'alternate reality bubble' than anything else. Also it turns out that any of the post-Age-of-X-Man stuff that might be being set up in the event is entirely irrelevant because Hickman is gonna be doing his Hickman thing. So that's... y'know, a thing.
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I will be less pissed if they just don't use Blob for awhile rather than use him and ignore what happened with Blob in Age of X.
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I really liked how the dystopia in Age of X-Man had some high points for its citizens. Like, because Blob is afforded decency, autonomy and respect, he's this super nice erudite guy instead of a violent jerk who lashes out at the people around him. Those few good points make the early issues way more compelling.
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I know this didn't happen, but someone tell me it didn't happen; When I was like 11 and I hung out in comic shops all the time, my comic shop guy told me about when Wolverine was feral living in the woods in a comic he ate a baby. This didn't ever actually happen right? I just remembered him telling me that.
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Unmature posted:I know this didn't happen, but someone tell me it didn't happen; sooooo, he wasn't feral, he was possessed by a demon, and it was non-canon but What If? vol 2 #6, "What If... The X-Men had lost Inferno?"
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Cubone posted:😐 Jesus Christ The feral part may have been me confusing it with him also telling me that when Wolverine had the adamantium removed his healing factor went into super drive and he got hit by a semi truck and got right back up. Which frankly feels like how his healing factor just works these days normally.
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Unmature posted:Jesus Christ I vaguely remember in the mid-90s(?) he went like, super-feral and for some reason the artist stopped drawing him with a nose. Speaking of Wolverine, did they ever dial his healing factor back down? I remember back in Fall of The Mutants era, Wolverine was effed up and out of action for several issues because Blob say on him. Last I saw he was like, fully regenerating from a Nuclear blast in two panels.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I vaguely remember in the mid-90s(?) he went like, super-feral and for some reason the artist stopped drawing him with a nose. Now he can walk around as a skeleton and regrow his face in minutes and poo poo. He used to lay in a hospital bed for whole issues from a ninja fight.
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Wolverine's healing factor still seems to vary from writer to writer. Whereas Deadpool's healing factor has been cranked up to where he's basically a Looney Tune. Healing factors are weird.
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If healing factors in comics fascinate you, check out Wolverine: The Best There Is. It's a miniseries that pulls some ocean trench-deep cuts up for supporting characters, and it's deeply weird and gory and a bit shaggy around the edges but I got a huge kick out of the ideas and situations in it.
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Is that the one where the Punisher runs him over with a steamroller?
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Yeah, after Magneto pulled out his adamantium, he stopped wearing a full mask (instead going with just a bandanna) and his nose mostly disappeared. He also get edgy lettering. 
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Pastry of the Year posted:If healing factors in comics fascinate you, check out Wolverine: The Best There Is. It's a miniseries that pulls some ocean trench-deep cuts up for supporting characters, and it's deeply weird and gory and a bit shaggy around the edges but I got a huge kick out of the ideas and situations in it. This entire comic is absolutely psychotic and is a must read for Wolverine bullshit.
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TwoPair posted:Wolverine's healing factor still seems to vary from writer to writer. Whereas Deadpool's healing factor has been cranked up to where he's basically a Looney Tune. When he was depowered in Genosha, it was pretty cool. He bled all over when he popped his claws, and he almost died from adamantium poisoning.
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Speaking of Wolverine this is going to be one of those "I remember reading a comic when I was a kid and I am going to throw a lot of vague keywords your way so please help me find the comic". I don't know if it was a Wolverine comic or an X-Men comic but I remember a Wolverine comic that was done in a very creepy noir-ish style where Wolverine was having one of those "are my memories fake or real" phases and there was a name he kept remembering and he wasn't sure if he had to find the person attached to the name and kill that person or if that person was supposed to help him. All he remembered was the name (which I can't remember) and that name kind of made him crazy too. Now I am probably remembering this comic being I was probably 10 or younger when I read it, but I remember it had some very weird scratchy art with lots of reds and browns. I am mostly interested in finding this comic again because I am curious who the artist was (I think it was Bachallo because it was kind of his style but it could have also been someone like Fabry with exaggeration and scratchiness of the art) and also want to know how the story ended (yes I have been curious about the ending for the last....20 odd years.
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Cubone posted:😐 Since you gave the issue #, I looked it up.  He just looks so fuckin' jazzed to eat that baby. E: speaking of Wolverine's healing factor, sorta, I forgot this happened in that What-If:  Baron Mordo killed Wolverine, and one of the demons possessed his skeleton to kill Madeline Pryor. LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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In early Claremont Mystique was fighting extreamaly realistic robotic clones of the X-men in Arcade's Murderworld and took out Wolverine by stabbing him in the jugular noting that Wolverine's healing factor wouldn't kick in before the blood loss killed him.
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Sinners Sandwich posted:In early Claremont Mystique was fighting extreamaly realistic robotic clones of the X-men in Arcade's Murderworld and took out Wolverine by stabbing him in the jugular noting that Wolverine's healing factor wouldn't kick in before the blood loss killed him. They seem to have walked that back. Now it's 'anything that doesn't kill him instantly.' Of course Mystique could have just been guessing.
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Dawgstar posted:They seem to have walked that back. Now it's 'anything that doesn't kill him instantly.' Bullshit. He survived getting a nuke dropped on him twice and has regenerated from a skeleton multiple times. You could instantly turn every cell in his body into ash but one and he'd get over it.
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