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CubanMissile posted:I wish there were studies to see on average, how often a cult has to be wrong about their predictions before their followers stop believing them, if this even happens at all. Prester Jane talks about this sort of thing at length. They just usually end up kicking out the incredulous ones and doubling down harder and harder.
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CubanMissile posted:I wish there were studies to see on average, how often a cult has to be wrong about their predictions before their followers stop believing them, if this even happens at all. There's books about and typically, the event not happening STRENGTHENS belief.
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1151507627844571136 not really surprised he is conservative tea party type. he went full religion when his kid came out preme. i am thankful he has mostly been mostly quiet about the bullshit. the shirts is dumb but its mostly stupid tea party poo poo you see in the boonies and rural areas like he comes from and its probably the least offensive because working in those areas i have see so much worse than that. i think he is weirdo conserivative moron but i am gonna wait for worse stuff to drop him fully. because drat it i like those guardians movies and i feel like dave batista would have outed him already if he was really hosed up.
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Guze posted:Just lmao @ John McCains daughter I have no mouth but I must meme.
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Lucania posted:Puerto Rico news: so why hasnt he resigned? you would think the people kicking his doors down would scare him into going private sector.
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theflyingorc posted:There's books about and typically, the event not happening STRENGTHENS belief. That's just loving wild.
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Jul 18, 2019 19:37
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TulliusCicero posted:Really glad the loving Kardashians have a backdoor into the White House because they are famous and rich This has been a thing she's been working on for a while. She's been studying and intends to sit for the bar in California so she can be more effective at this. 2019 is surreal, but not all the stories are terrible.
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Doctor Butts posted:Rapture was actually released on January 12, 1981. The rapture occured on nov 6th 2016. prove me wrong  That missing neighbors dog from that week? Like the only raptured.
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CubanMissile posted:That's just loving wild. Humans are loving weird.
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1glitch0 posted:Good news/bad news situation, thread. The only person I know who is a Trump supporter is a co-worker who has taken the last 3 weeks off of work to prepare for the Rapture. And today is the day. Today the Rapture will happen. Yes, she has predicated this several times before, but this is the correct day. So she took vacation time. She showed me an email that showed God said Jesus would be arriving back today to bring back all the good people. I asked her if God had emailed her, but apparently it's from a "watchers" group that is looking for the rapture, and they got a message from god and then passed it on. So that's happening today. Also once all the good people are taken back, Satan will come to Earth and possess Obama who will then take control of the world. Now, it's important to know that Obama doesn't know he he has been prepped to be the anti-christ, but he is, and today satan will possess him and then the 7 years of terribleness will start for the rest of us. So can they kick that off already so they can leave the rest of us the gently caress alone?
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CuddleCryptid posted:I like how she is heavily implying that you will not be raptured and you're going straight to hell today for your "sins". We've spoken before and she knows I''m an atheist and a socialist. So I'm screwed and openly says it. Her best friend at work is a gay man and she has repeatedly told him he's going to hell as well. She's told us a few things to fix our doom, which I can't all remember, but a few are (obviously) embrace Jesus, it's never too late, don't take the mark of the beast, and don't shop at Wal-Mart (?). What's funny is that she is a competent worker and a very nice, clever and witty person. Just something went wrong somewhere. It makes me wonder how to reach out to those types of people because they aren't all just drooling basement dwellers. They can be cool, they're just out of their loving mind.
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CubanMissile posted:I wish there were studies to see on average, how often a cult has to be wrong about their predictions before their followers stop believing them, if this even happens at all. There are over 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses and they have been predicting the rapture/endtimes for almost 150 years and have continually moved the goalposts every few years when their predictions are wrong.
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1glitch0 posted:Good news/bad news situation, thread. The only person I know who is a Trump supporter is a co-worker who has taken the last 3 weeks off of work to prepare for the Rapture. And today is the day. Today the Rapture will happen. Yes, she has predicated this several times before, but this is the correct day. So she took vacation time. She showed me an email that showed God said Jesus would be arriving back today to bring back all the good people. I asked her if God had emailed her, but apparently it's from a "watchers" group that is looking for the rapture, and they got a message from god and then passed it on. So that's happening today. Also once all the good people are taken back, Satan will come to Earth and possess Obama who will then take control of the world. Now, it's important to know that Obama doesn't know he he has been prepped to be the anti-christ, but he is, and today satan will possess him and then the 7 years of terribleness will start for the rest of us. I appreciate the concession that at least Obama doesn't know he's an instrument of evil.
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1glitch0 posted:We've spoken before and she knows I''m an atheist and a socialist. So I'm screwed and openly says it. Her best friend at work is a gay man and she has repeatedly told him he's going to hell as well. She's told us a few things to fix our doom, which I can't all remember, but a few are (obviously) embrace Jesus, it's never too late, don't take the mark of the beast, and don't shop at Wal-Mart (?). ...Why Walmart? I mean I agree, Walmart is trash, but why that chain?
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Mahoning posted:There are over 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses and they have been predicting the rapture/endtimes for almost 150 years and have continually moved the goalposts every few years when their predictions are wrong. wasnt that created by a publishing company and is basically an abusive cult?
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CubanMissile posted:I wish there were studies to see on average, how often a cult has to be wrong about their predictions before their followers stop believing them, if this even happens at all. Sunk Cost Fallacy plays heavily into those decisions I'd wager.
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1glitch0 posted:We've spoken before and she knows I''m an atheist and a socialist. So I'm screwed and openly says it. Her best friend at work is a gay man and she has repeatedly told him he's going to hell as well. She's told us a few things to fix our doom, which I can't all remember, but a few are (obviously) embrace Jesus, it's never too late, don't take the mark of the beast, and don't shop at Wal-Mart (?). It's called childhood indoctrination and it brought you the Catholic Church.
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Mahoning posted:There are over 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses and they have been predicting the rapture/endtimes for almost 150 years and have continually moved the goalposts every few years when their predictions are wrong. There's Branch Davidians that are bummed they didn't get BBQ'd at Waco.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:not really surprised he is conservative tea party type. he went full religion when his kid came out preme. i am thankful he has mostly been mostly quiet about the bullshit. the shirts is dumb but its mostly stupid tea party poo poo you see in the boonies and rural areas like he comes from and its probably the least offensive because working in those areas i have see so much worse than that. i think he is weirdo conserivative moron but i am gonna wait for worse stuff to drop him fully. because drat it i like those guardians movies and i feel like dave batista would have outed him already if he was really hosed up. I hate to tell you but lots of popular people in Hollywood regularly do hosed up things and generally even the good ones are unwilling to say/do anything about it.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:I hate to tell you but lots of popular people in Hollywood regularly do hosed up things and generally even the good ones are unwilling to say/do anything about it. oh i am sure. 
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CubanMissile posted:I wish there were studies to see on average, how often a cult has to be wrong about their predictions before their followers stop believing them, if this even happens at all. sveral major Merican fudie sects have this as their origin point, like just look up Millerism* , Great Disappointment, and Post Great Disappointment Millerism*. like someone said I'm sure P Jane and some other goons have from US protestant backgrounds probably have way better takesthan me, some guy that skimmed those wikipedia pages after hearing them mentioned briefly in stuff. *seriously gently caress all Millers.
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Mind_Taker posted:$15 minimum wage just passed the House. I can’t wait until Mitch never schedules a vote for it. Friendly reminder that $15 in 2012 (when Fight for 15 started) should be $16.73 now to have the same purchasing power. Don't let the Democrats fool you when they declare victory by finally passing a $15 minimum wage in 2029 and don't tie it to inflation at all, and then we have to have this same fight again for the rest of our lives.
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There Bias Two posted:Prester Jane talks about this sort of thing at length. They just usually end up kicking out the incredulous ones and doubling down harder and harder. I've been working on a big update to the compaction cycle concept; I'm going to go ahead and quote the entire thing below because it's not publicly available yet and I think that understanding this cycle is incredibly relevant to understanding modern American politics: Compaction Cycle posted:
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Random Stranger posted:One thing about this, while this co-worker is nuttier than a peanut butter factory, religion is a protected class in the United States and they are exercising their religion in a way that would be protected. Taking it to HR would make you the bad guy in this situation. But feel free to gossip about it and let that gossip reach HR! Apparently she has been dragged into HR before for talking about this stuff and another employee was dragged into HR for bringing back a voodoo doll from New Orleans and placing it above her work space. These are real things that have happened. I would never go to HR for anything, but that HR is dealing with rapture talk and voodoo dolls is pretty loving hilarious.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so why hasnt he resigned? you would think the people kicking his doors down would scare him into going private sector. The American elite don't particularly care about the needs of their constituency
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Dapper_Swindler posted:not really surprised he is conservative tea party type. he went full religion when his kid came out preme. i am thankful he has mostly been mostly quiet about the bullshit. the shirts is dumb but its mostly stupid tea party poo poo you see in the boonies and rural areas like he comes from and its probably the least offensive because working in those areas i have see so much worse than that. i think he is weirdo conserivative moron but i am gonna wait for worse stuff to drop him fully. because drat it i like those guardians movies and i feel like dave batista would have outed him already if he was really hosed up. TLDR: White people would rather be entertained by racists and fascism than confront either, even if that confrontation is nothing more than not watching a movie.
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twice burned ice posted:Guys, I found it! Absolute proof that Trump isn't racist: that sentence seriously broke my brain. our simulation is crashing now isnt it?
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Feldegast42 posted:The American elite don't particularly care about the needs of their constituency sure but they care about their safety. i feel like one of these corrupt conservative assholes is gonna overestamate their chances against an angry crowd of protesters and angry mobs and end up on a light post with browned pants and a sign around their neck and doing their best Mussolini impression. because the videos i saw seemed like the crowd was angry enough for that to be a possiblity. if i was this rear end in a top hat, id cut my losses and run.
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TulliusCicero posted:...Why Walmart? That seemed weird. I think the conversation was spiraling out of control by that point. I mostly just let her talk and there were only so many questions I could ask. Probably something about the sign of the beast?
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i am harry posted:TLDR: White people would rather be entertained by racists and fascism than confront either, even if that confrontation is nothing more than not watching a movie. idk know if he is a racist. i know he is a weird religious clown who is conservative. if he is more than that gently caress him.
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1glitch0 posted:That seemed weird. I think the conversation was spiraling out of control by that point. I mostly just let her talk and there were only so many questions I could ask. Probably something about the sign of the beast? Walmart's are everywhere, the UPC code is the mark of the beast, ergo Walmart is in league with Satan?
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Remember that story in Michael Wolff's book about how Bannon told Hope Hicks to call her daddy and tell him she needs a defense attorney and she ran out crying
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Pinecone Sample posted:Remember that story in Michael Wolff's book about how Bannon told Hope Hicks to call her daddy and tell him she needs a defense attorney and she ran out crying Lol because she's an awful human being but also yikes
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Pinecone Sample posted:Remember that story in Michael Wolff's book about how Bannon told Hope Hicks to call her daddy and tell him she needs a defense attorney and she ran out crying did anyone read his new book? did any of that end up being true? also :moly:
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Pinecone Sample posted:Remember that story in Michael Wolff's book about how Bannon told Hope Hicks to call her daddy and tell him she needs a defense attorney and she ran out crying He also called Ivanka a staffer and she got incredibly offended.
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Earlier I was reading an article from NYT called "Trump Disavows ‘Send Her Back’ Chant as G.O.P. Frets Over Ugly Phrase". When I read it earlier, I swear there was a part in it saying how footage from the even showed that Trump said that he seemed to enjoy the chants. Now I see the same article and it says "In fact, as the crowd roared “send her back,” Mr. Trump looked around silently and paused as the scene unfolded in front of him, doing nothing to halt the chorus." Don't they have to put something up that says the article has been edited?
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Angry_Ed posted:Walmart's are everywhere, the UPC code is the mark of the beast, ergo Walmart is in league with Satan? Probably? But she also is into a lot of weird Bible numerology stuff. Kinda beyond what I can figure out. And it doesn't matter because Today is Rapture Day!!!!
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Astro7x posted:Earlier I was reading an article from NYT called "Trump Disavows ‘Send Her Back’ Chant as G.O.P. Frets Over Ugly Phrase". When I read it earlier, I swear there was a part in it saying how footage from the even showed that Trump said that he seemed to enjoy the chants. Now I see the same article and it says "In fact, as the crowd roared “send her back,” Mr. Trump looked around silently and paused as the scene unfolded in front of him, doing nothing to halt the chorus." This is the best we have https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/1151904196549140480
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