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Quavers posted:"How Docking could work in Star Citizen (Featuring Hellion)" Docking is very much a gay sex term I believe. I hope the citizen in the above video is comfortable with this.
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Jonny Shiloh posted:Docking is very much a gay sex term I believe. I hope the citizen in the above video is comfortable with this. Rebel Galaxy Outlaw has a launch date now, so I'm rubbing AND docking those sexy bears.
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JugbandDude posted:Rebel Galaxy Outlaw has a launch date now, so I'm rubbing AND docking those sexy bears. Docking with an angry bear would be no mean feat. Hat tip to you, good sir!
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Zaphod42 posted:This is your expert financial opinion, with zero of the closed room details about the running of the business or its financials. And it doesn't really affect you, and is no reason to be mad at Epic as a game publisher. I hope we can agree that they launched to positive sentiment and they're now the target of negative hype. Disregarding whether it's warranted or not, that's not cost-effective marketing. It does affect me, I'm a game developer - but I am absolutely not mad at Epic in any way. I don't see anything in my post indicating antagonism towards Epic. It's possible to consider an effort and product flawed, without hating it and wanting it to fail. I was just stating my observations on the material differences between Epic and the other stores. I do recognize the other stores are every bit as capitalist, but the Epic store launch/push has been exceptionally clumsy and aggressive. Which is another way of saying that they're getting more hate than they deserve, but through no fault but their own. Of course there is an element of bandwagoning. That's the case with any hype, negative and positive alike. But Epic and their leadership are not without fault. Even if I agree that the negative hype is somewhat out of proportion, and to a large degree spurred by failed marketing and poorly worded statements, I still think Epic is offering a platform that's worse than the competition. As for exclusives and launchers: they're completely different things. Being forced to launch via uplay is certainly annoying, but you can still buy the game where you want and have it in your favored collection. PC exclusive were rare in the past, apart from AAA studio first-party titles and (as you mention) the Windows Store. I share the dislike for those exclusives, but I still maintain they were materially different in nature. Never before have we seen such an aggressive push at securing marketshare on a storefront through exclusivity. Why do you think I want the Epic store to flop? As a consumer and developer both, I very much want them to survive and thrive. But not through leveraging strong finances and exclusivity deals. I want them to make a good platform and offer good terms to developers. The improved developer split is an example of a good thing they've done. Having a great store is another good way they could increase market share. I certainly agree that the Steam store is looking more dated every passing day. But Tim Sweeey being bombastic about digital storefronts having reached peak consumer appeal doesn't inspire confidence that they're going to focus on that part of the business. I'm not invested in seeing Epic fail. I'm not sure why my post makes you so angry. I don't think there was anything particularly hyperbolic about my points. You can disagree, and that's perfectly fair, but as I started out in this post: the very fact that there is such negative sentiment towards the Epic Store is essentially proof that they've done poorly on the marketing front. I hope we see a healthy competition between Steam, Epic Store, GoG, Windows Store, smaller online retailers and platforms, first-party stores and the Google/Amazon/Etc powerhouses. I don't want to see one single platform win out, because that just leads to stagnation, gatekeeping and angry consumers. But I am disappointed in what Epic Store has done so far. Not sure why that qualifies as mob mentality. I had that outlook (although to a lesser degree) even when the hype was still positive.
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Quavers posted:"How Docking could work in Star Citizen (Featuring Hellion)" "Hellion is kind of a 'poor man's Star Citizen'" "[Hellion] obviously doesn't have the dev team Star Citizen does" "[Hellion] has some good ideas so we're going to take them and suggest them to CIG's dev team in this video." you're right there buddy, come on, you're so close 
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Jul 18, 2019 22:06
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Sandweed posted:The day gamers would ever give a drat about actual game devs is the day I start believing in their outrage. Yeah that's basically where I'm at. There's just like, so many other issues that are so conveniently ignored.... On the bright side, I've seen a few gamers actually touting studios saying "we're gonna push back our schedules so we can have lives and not kill our employees" so there's hope for some.
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PederP posted:I'm not invested in seeing Epic fail. I'm not sure why my post makes you so angry. I don't think there was anything particularly hyperbolic about my points. You can disagree, and that's perfectly fair, but as I started out in this post: the very fact that there is such negative sentiment towards the Epic Store is essentially proof that they've done poorly on the marketing front. I don't think you're angry, but definitely there are a lot of gamers that are very very angry. Twitter and Twitch is pretty full of people spamming "epic store sucks" all they can, if a game gets announced and then we find out its on epic, like those kickstarter games, people flip tables and demand refunds. It was a pledge to a kickstarter, stop treating it like a pre-order. Don't give them your money in the first place if you want value. But its funny how you go from "Look, I'm not angry, I don't know why you'd think I'm angry" to "I don't know why you're so angry". I'm not either. I'm just asking questions and trying to figure out why there's so much vitriol for Epic right now, when I consider the Windows Store to be far worse, and Epic, Ubisoft and Activision to be about as bad. Disliking exclusives is totally fair, but to hate Epic because of exclusives when others are doing exclusive deals in the gaming industry, that just seems real weird, and ultimately disingenuous. Again I think its just "cool" to hate on Epic right now, its this big mob mentality thing. Lots of people dislike the Windows Store, I'm not the only one. But you don't see people bombing "WINDOWS STORE SUCKS" on twitch when the age of empires remake got announced. Even though, they really should. (Age 1 was exclusive to windows store but hopefully age 2 will be on steam?  )
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Lmao what "monopolies r the best, integrate Valve into the state!!"
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Jul 18, 2019 22:25
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intellectual property owners shouldn't have the capacity to manage distribution of their intellectual property
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Jul 18, 2019 22:26
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what precisely is the problem with a buncha game package managers? who cares?
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Jul 18, 2019 22:31
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The targeted Gamers.
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oh no, downloading my $80 videya game takes an extra 3 minutes of Epic / Origin installation, woe is me
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Jul 18, 2019 22:34
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Sandweed posted:The targeted Gamers. those poor marginalized gamers margin-alized in the sense that their cash is constantly propping up shitware like tsar citizer and BattleDuty: Call of Operators
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Potato Salad posted:oh no, downloading my $80 videya game takes an extra 3 minutes of Epic / Origin installation, woe is me whoa look at this guy with no integrity
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Beet Wagon posted:"Hellion is kind of a 'poor man's Star Citizen'" Holy crap did you read the global chat as he was dreaming of things that will never be? Almost every person was commenting on some thing that was screwed up beyond belief, lol.
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I too want 100's of people to lose their livelihood because I have to buy my anime-porn games from an evil controlling portal that is the very definition of the devil himself! Burn all of you! I hope you all lose everything for daring to use that portal! PS Oh an I know a lot of parents, you guys are so screwed! I bet there will be a whole 5 less players on Fortnite. You Had Your Chance!
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I've seen this exact argument a lot. And my first thought is, you're saying it'd be better if they pulled an EA and started buying and killing studios? That would be acceptable? Lol @ "we could convince our friends' kids to stop playing fortnite!"
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Ramadu posted:
Nobody is doing that Ramadu. Reducing everything to binary "you're with us or you're against us" is small minded. Epic is a greedy capitalist company, but so is Valve, and Microsoft, and Ubisoft, and EA, and Blizzard Activision, and and and and and and.
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Zaphod42 posted:Nobody is doing that Ramadu. Reducing everything to binary "you're with us or you're against us" is small minded. The Epic Defender has logged on This is blasphemy
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Jul 18, 2019 23:19
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Dementropy posted:From 2015: i love star citizen
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New features incoming... Star Citizen Alpha 3.6.0s PTU.2229899 Patch Notes quote:Feature Updates
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I have extremely strong opinions about where games are sold, let me tell you
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peter gabriel posted:I have extremely strong opinions about where games are sold, let me tell you Epic stan spotted
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Solarin posted:i love star citizen It makes me laugh ("BettysBigTits", I mean really) but it makes me a bit sad too, to think that the backers who stumped up ships for her were likely acting out of some kind of sense of chivalrousness. Obviously, we can frown on white middle aged middle class manchildren bestowing gifts on the lower orders out of a sense of noblesse oblige, but still, basement dwelling neckbeards doffing their fedoras at milfs with big knockers should maybe be cut a bit of slack. Then again, they were probably trying to impress her with jpeg penis substitutes and cash-flashing, so what do I know. PS I know she wasn't real, I'm just saying.
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Beet Wagon posted:It's the sound. He was super excited about it until it squeaked/yelled lol. He's a big baby My Aussie is also a big baby who runs from squeaky toys. I think it's kind of cute.
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I preordered RGO. Epic, Steam, whatever, it's all the same, and Travis & co. deserves my money. Tencent owns a not-controlling part of Epic, and they own bits and bobs of bazillion other companies. I suspect they're more about making money, and less as an espionage arm of the Chinese government (well, except possibly industrial espionage, but that is a common hobby). Exclusives also used to mean platform, not storefront, but I don't multiplay or give a gently caress about Steam's features except INSTALL and PLAY. As an added bonus, Double Damage never did promise a release on Steam (they had negotiated with Epic before announcing the game, unless my memory sucks as usual) or anywhere else, people just made assumptions because Steam has had practical exclusivity for years. I did not preorder Star Citizen.
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loving lol posted:Fake goon boobs aren't enough to stop the freight train of awesome Fake?
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Jonny Shiloh posted:Docking is very much a gay sex term I believe. I hope the citizen in the above video is comfortable with this. It's not gay unless the dicks touch, and depending on who you ask having a dick inside another dick's foreskin may or may not count as touching.
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trucutru posted:It's not gay unless the dicks touch, and depending on who you ask having a dick inside another dick's foreskin may or may not count as touching. Right.
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Jonny Shiloh posted:but still, basement dwelling neckbeards doffing their fedoras at milfs with big knockers should maybe be cut a bit of slack. gonna go with a no, here
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Asmodai_00 posted:gonna go with a no, here Eh, I dunno - look on them as Sir Lancelots No ulterior motive, just a sincere wish to help a well endowed soccer mom out, what could be more natural.
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valiantlife posted:This fan base has a hard on for perma death yet CIG keep introducing random uncontrollable ways to die. It's great if you have lifetime insurance on all your poo poo. But the space poors who have to grind for their ships because they're not paying hundreds of their own real life dollars for a ship? gently caress em.
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