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Mugaaz posted:I agree, the higher level pledges adding double of the packs you select makes no sense, I'd much rather just pick 10 different ones. Pledge at the $1 tier, but pledge $121, then pick the six Lances from add-ons at the end of the kickstarter.
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Mugaaz posted:You can't get 3 people to join you? Does you FLGS have a FB page or similar you can reach out to find if anyone is interested? Strobe posted:If you're in the EU or Canada it looks like this is fulfilling from centers in those areas. Bangkok. And yeah getting people interested in Battletech is loving tough. I'm spamming social media so we'll see.
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Jul 18, 2019 17:57
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Strobe posted:Pledge at the $1 tier, but pledge $121, then pick the six Lances from add-ons at the end of the kickstarter. Not trying to sound whingy, but would rather just pick a tier with "double" rewards that let me pick different ones instead of doubling up on the ones I picked.
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Jul 18, 2019 18:10
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SirFozzie posted:Half a Million in a day. Safe to say this wasn't what anyone was probably expecting. 600k barely put up a fight.
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Dr. Lunchables posted:Is there a running list of all the lance packs currently available? It currently looks like there's a dozen lance/star packs right now. Each line o f the posts I made was it's own pack, but I'll repost: Inner Sphere Packs (If chosen as a reward and not an addon, you get a salvage box random extra mech) Warhammer Rifleman Phoenix Hawk Wasp Marauder Archer Valkyrie Stinger Atlas, Marauder II, Orion, Crusader Banshee, Grasshopper Centurion Hachetman Blackjack, Panther, Wolfhound, Jenner Whitworth, Longbow, Trebuchet, Bombadier Sarabus, Firestarter (Omni), Axman, Berserker (750K) Clan Mechs (If not already noted, add-ons) Executioner Timber Wolf, Nova, Grendel, Adder (Base set) 2 points of elementals (Base set) Dire Wolf Stormcrow Shadowcat Mist Lynx Summoner Elemental Star Packs (5 Points) Gargoyle, Mad Dog, Hellbringer, Viper, Ice Ferret Fire Falcon, Arctic Cheetah, Hellion, Battle Cobra, Black Lanner Kodiak, Supernova, Marauder IIC, Warhammer IIC, Hunchback IIC Howler, Solitaire, Incubus, Pack Hunter, Horned Owl (675K) SirFozzie fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Jul 18, 2019 21:45
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Note that the 'double packs' for the $150 and up tiers appears to just give you two of whatever pack you choose. Also a 'Salvage box' which is a random mech. You can get the lance/stars as add-ons for $20/$25 respectively ($5/mech) so it's probably better to grab stars with your package unless you really want an IS one.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:47
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If you take a IS Lance with your reward tiers a salvage box is added EDIT: per reward so you get the same number of Mechs.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:53
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Ah, I missed that.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:00
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Yeah, when the tiers say "X/Y/Z 'Mechs" they meant it.  Since then there's been a couple (I think 1-7, depending on tier) added thanks to stretch goals, but the number shown is still for all initial rewards listed in the tiers section.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:06
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Kickstarter looks great, but man they seem to be committing to an making an insane amount of Mechs as part of fulfilling this kickstarter.
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Jul 18, 2019 22:41
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HidaO-Win posted:Kickstarter looks great, but man they seem to be committing to an making an insane amount of Mechs as part of fulfilling this kickstarter. Yeah kind of insane at the rate they are expanding it.
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Mugaaz posted:Yeah kind of insane at the rate they are expanding it. To be fair: The number of minis required to be produced hasn't gone up much and scales with backers not cash. The variety on the other hand is a train with no brakes. EDIT: that was phrased really poorly. Without the extra lance/star packs, they would still be making the same number of miniatures to fulfill rewards. That hasn't changed with stretch goals, and presumably was already possible in profitable fashion at low scale. Economics of scale might be helping here. Strobe fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jul 18, 2019 |
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Yeah, its just the extra design work, especially working without concept art like they would have for the better known mechs, then the proofing the molds and making sure they come out high quality. They’ve done, what 10 battlemechs under the new system and now they are making 50 new ones? That’s majorly ramping things up.
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Jul 18, 2019 23:56
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They've gone through the new design to plastic sculpts process before, so I believe they are capable. How long it takes to make that many, and whether quality will suffer when they try to expand that rapidly are what I'm worried about.
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Jul 19, 2019 00:13
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The extra mechs stagger things by a month per new pack, so you're not going to see the very last units until around Christmas 2020. They've also said they're looking into the Australia thing, though this early that could mean anything. But the issue has been raised.
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I know Scroggins has been working on new art for a lot of classic mechs, and he's been showing off 3D models of a bunch of them, too, so it's not like they need to scramble for concept art for a shitload of mechs (yet).
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The latest update goes into how they're building out the star and lance packs. (it's a backer only update, so I'm going to quote only that secrtion. They also have a vote up to ask what already announced mech would you rather they NOT make and which one you'd want to replace it.Update posted:
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I voted Howler. I really, really hope that the Black Lanner doesn't get voted off. Actually I hope none of them get voted off
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Jul 19, 2019 23:28
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The Black Lanner is a fantastic 'Mech and looks more like an attack helicopter with legs than anything besides the Cauldron Born. In this objective category it is therefore one of the best 'Mechs in the game.
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A king crab.
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Jul 20, 2019 00:37
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Please give me a new Black Knight.
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Pussy Cartel posted:Please give me a new Black Knight. I would also like the Dark Age Black Knight in plastic.
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SirFozzie posted:We’ve held off on designs heavily associated with a particular faction, so far. What are these motherfuckers talking about These could not be associated any more with one faction
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Defiance Industries posted:What are these motherfuckers talking about Look right above it. The Panther, Wolfhound and Jenner are excellent examples of great designs used on tabletops often.
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Jul 20, 2019 03:01
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Sure. I'm more surprised it comes after them saying general IS use is so important though.
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Jul 20, 2019 03:27
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The Panther was a SLDF design and is on every availability list except Marik (of course). It's iconic to the DC, but not nearly exclusive. The Wolfhound for a lot of people is less FedCom and more just anywhere. Phelan's use of one wasn't anywhere near FedCom employ and he's arguably the most famous pilot.
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The first wave of digital rewards just went out to backers. TRO 3050 Wallpaper Clan Juggernaut Wallpaper Inner Sphere Response Wallpaper A New Game by Steven Mohan, Jr., a short story set during the early invasion.
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I've read somewhere that they will only be delivering the core stuff that was already developed pre-launch when delivery date rolls around - so the core box, the two IS packs, and the dire wolf clan pack, in march. Everything else will be delivered later than march, supposedly. Okay so they say this in the shipping and other text right at the very bottom of the campaign text, where you have to scroll for it. mcjomar fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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Strobe posted:The Panther was a SLDF design and is on every availability list except Marik (of course). It's iconic to the DC, but not nearly exclusive. You can find a single pilot for anything just about anywhere (thanks, Death Commando special rules!) but that doesn't mean that a unit isn't identified with a particular faction
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The Wolfhound is Steiner/Davion as all hell, and I can't think about the Panther or Jenner without thinking about Kurita. I love the Wolfhound, but if I was making a bunch of general IS packs I sure as hell wouldn't include it.
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The only reason I can see that they would include mechs tied to specific great houses when going for "general IS" is that depending on the tech and era it might be hard to find. I notice the ones in question are lights. I haven't been following this kickstarter but I'm assuming they're going for 3025/4th war era. Depending on how many lights they needed they might actually run out of generic mechs and be forced to dive into the faction specific ones. I can think of 4 lights in that era that are not tied to a faction and see widespread use - Locust, Wasp, Stinger, Firestarter Everything else falls under: Javelin, Valkryie - Davion Commando - Steiner Wolfhound - Davion/Steiner Flea - Marik/Dragoons Hermes - Marik Jenner, Panther - Kurita Raven, UrbanMech - Liao Spider - Marik/Kurita Or we start getting into SLDF or other faction specific designs that become lostech or exceedingly rare by that era. Going further into the 3050's and beyond there's not much in the way of "generic" designs as nearly every new design is heavily tied to the faction that created them (or in some cases a few factions that worked together on the design).
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Conquest7706 posted:Hermes Back when BattleCorps was still buying short stories I was told by the line developers that the Hermes is incredibly rare, it's one of the Inner Sphere's unicorns. The Wolfhound and Panther aren't universal but they are common enough that pretty much everyone has salvaged Panthers (or "salvaged" Wolfhounds if TharHes needs a quick excuse for selling weapons to foreign states under the table). Edit: If we're talking "generally available to mercenaries" both are pretty high on the list. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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I was confusing Hermes with Hermes II. Remembered there being a "Hermes" on pretty much every FWL/Marik build table for forever; forgot the low tech II was a 40 tonner. Faction specific designs have never been 100% limited to their producer and the Wolfhound is a very popular mech among the player base in general and mercenaries in the lore, but when most people think "Wolfhound" they think Steiner/Davion/Fedcom/LA and when most people think "Panther" they think Kurita/DC. I know when I've played megamek servers that tried to be canon-correct you basically don't see Panthers in use outside of DC unless they're salvage or a very uncommon "faction asset" kind of pull. It rubs me wrong to have "generic IS" be designs that are highly associated with a specific faction, but it's unavoidable if they keep adding more and more mechs.
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Defiance is right: the Panther by 3025 is 100% Kurita (you never see them on non-Kurita RATs outside of SL-era games), the Wolfhound FC and loyal Mercs, and the Jenner is the Kuritaest Kurita mech imaginable outside of the Dragon. The Wolfhound has the best claim to wider distribution because of the FedCom technically being two states and Mercs being all over the place, but even then, no other state ever uses it. Only old Star League-era designs are seen in all the factions in anything besides "that one I salvaged that one battle" numbers, so it's a strange line for the management to take. Then again, I'd be very happy to see new sculpts of all of them, so argument inconsistencies aside they're all common machines (at least within one faction) that would be good to have.
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The Panther 9R is on every single availability list on the MUL except the Free Worlds League, because of course the FWL doesn't get anything with a PPC. The Panther 8Z (non-PPC)
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It is, but that's because the MUL is not fine-grained at all. A lot of things are on the Inner Sphere General list that are only applicable in the most technical of senses: to it, a Hermes is just as available as a Wasp. In terms of actual force building, no one is going to add a machine only built in the Combine for three centuries to a basic non-Combine House (or Rasalhague) list, the universal merc/salvage/Periphery junker exceptions (which are just as applicable to the Enforcer, Dragon, Commando etc) noted.
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My introduction to Battletech was the original MechWarrior and the first mech in that you can pilot is a Jenner. That makes the Jenner a Davion mech in my humble opinion. 
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Man that was a fun game. I played it on some ancient-rear end Tandy that was so slow that you had to initialize the mission then go and do something else for five minutes while plodding into combat range the moment you stopped using light mechs.
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