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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:No problem if you need more space, just put a hitch on the back and get a little trailer. hell yeah 
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I definitely saw a dude back in 2004 or so pull up at a golf course in a Prowler. He had his clubs/shoes as well as an ice chest in the trailer!
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dk2m posted:I mean, if abandoning the entire engine layout isn't a generational leap, I have no clue what you would consider one to be. I was talking more about the exterior, it looks like a morphed C7. It's not as big of a departure as any of the other generational leaps. The interior cabin space is comfy, and looks nice. But the exterior panel fitment is hit and miss, and the rear on all 3 C7s I've had experience a lot of rattles, and the door cards constantly rattle from the speakers on both grand sports I've had. I'd say that the build quality is "inconsistent" at best, which is probably why you get so much car for ~60k.
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Keyser_Soze posted:I definitely saw a dude back in 2004 or so pull up at a golf course in a Prowler. He had his clubs/shoes as well as an ice chest in the trailer! I don't like golfing, but if I was going to, a Prowler is the only way to show up.
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Linux Nazi posted:I was talking more about the exterior, it looks like a morphed C7. It's not as big of a departure as any of the other generational leaps. I disagree here. Although the car's looks, in isolation, are growing on me, this is the first Corvette that to me is unidentifiable as a Corvette. If you go backwards in time, you have no trouble at all knowing that you were looking at a Corvette. This is the first time, maybe since the original Vette, that a year to year transition completely rewrote the look of the car. At least to my eye.
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Linux Nazi posted:The interior cabin space is comfy, and looks nice. But the exterior panel fitment is hit and miss, and the rear on all 3 C7s I've had experience a lot of rattles, and the door cards constantly rattle from the speakers on both grand sports I've had. I'd say that the build quality is "inconsistent" at best, which is probably why you get so much car for ~60k. Glad to hear nothing has changed from when I had my C5. Other than the interior looking nice, lol.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I disagree here. Although the car's looks, in isolation, are growing on me, this is the first Corvette that to me is unidentifiable as a Corvette. If you go backwards in time, you have no trouble at all knowing that you were looking at a Corvette. This is the first time, maybe since the original Vette, that a year to year transition completely rewrote the look of the car. At least to my eye. I had the same thought about the c7 when it came out because it was so pointy and the C6 C5 on back for such smooth cars. To be honest the c7 never really grew on me so I just kind of let it pass and ended up buying a screaming deal no mileage C6 from an old man last year and now I'm kind of regretting it cuz I'm sure I'm going to lose my rear end on the trade in.
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FCKGW posted:hell yeah oh my god :3 Also does this mean the earlier 'vettes with the GM playskool parts bin interiors will be even cheaper now Keep toying with the idea of picking up a C5 and dailying it since I don't need a back seat RN
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bird cooch posted:I had the same thought about the c7 when it came out because it was so pointy and the C6 C5 on back for such smooth cars. To be honest the c7 never really grew on me so I just kind of let it pass and ended up buying a screaming deal no mileage C6 from an old man last year and now I'm kind of regretting it cuz I'm sure I'm going to lose my rear end on the trade in. You don't get a screaming deal unless someone is losing their rear end, and you gotta pay it forward. In 2003 I got a five year old C5 for 21k and it only lost 10k in the fourteen years I had it, but that still means the guy I sold it to got a 350hp car for $11k. New or used you really can't beat the value on these things.
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davebo posted:You don't get a screaming deal unless someone is losing their rear end, and you gotta pay it forward. In 2003 I got a five year old C5 for 21k and it only lost 10k in the fourteen years I had it, but that still means the guy I sold it to got a 350hp car for $11k. New or used you really can't beat the value on these things. I bought about an '08 a year ago with 14 or 17 k on it for 23ish iirc. Somewhere in there. I have 24K on it now with ZO6 brakes and sways and a bunch of other track stuff, I also have a 2.3 liter Magnuson supercharger ready to drop on but, I think it's not going to get that and I'll just part out the supercharger and Hope that my trade-in value doesn't drop too much between now and when I can get a c8. Or perhaps just sell it outright and camp on the cash.
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You can go golfing in your C8 instead of having to take your Yukon Denali. https://i.imgur.com/o9OiGsy.mp4
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Godzilla07 posted:You can go golfing in your C8 instead of having to take your Yukon Denali. boomers are still going to be upset
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Godzilla07 posted:You can go golfing in your C8 instead of having to take your Yukon Denali. A 2000 f350 is my daily. And I'm a cripple, no golf for me. There's actually an amazing amount of storage space. Most of my miles come from blast from Texas to California and Washington State for work / fun. The ideas road trippin a cheap mid-engine car under warranty sounds pretty great. I wonder if you can fit a full size spare back there. Or two cheater spares in the right dimensions. F/R
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Bajaha posted:You got to start thinking like a 'rich' guy showing off. Having to stop and hold up traffic while you raise the front of your expensive sports car is a feature. You're just rubbing it in to everyone around you that you're more important and fancy than they are. Now you get that experience in a vette instead of having to shell out for a Lamborghini or Ferrari. Speed humps (at least here in the uk) are a pretty shallow angle and I've never had to use the front end lift to clear any in a Ferrari. It's mostly going to be used to get on to steep driveways or drop kerbs (and also to get it on the flatbed lolololol)
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Jul 19, 2019 21:47
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I wonder what happens to a mid-engine car passenger compartment during a full head on crash. More crumple zone.
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BlackMK4 posted:More crumple zone.
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mobby_6kl posted:For the engine? No? That isn't in the front anymore. In a front-engine car the engine is a problem, not an asset, in a head-on collision.
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bird cooch posted:I just realized that they're still making the 370Z as well. Hwhy big crush on Chad OMG posted:Tooling has been paid off forever, people still buy them The 350Z/370Z will be the Crown Victoria of sports cars.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I wonder what happens to a mid-engine car passenger compartment during a full head on crash. In really big accidents, mid-engined cars are designed so that the engine/drivetrain sheers off before it becomes an uninvited guest in the passenger compartment. I mean really it's not that different to a front-engine car, where it's also designed to do that, just in a different direction and with a different outcome in mind.
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I'd probably buy a C8 even despite being about to move from Florida (no snow) to Utah (lots of snow) if I didn't have a large dog
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It seems too good to be true and this is still GM so I'm half-expecting some horrible flaw Overheating during mildly spirited driving or some horrible transmission problem that manifests in the first year or every 5,000 miles one of the wheels falls off
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LeeMajors posted:The MR Spyder was pretty awesome though. I do like the Spyder, one's on my list because it scratches several itches at once: 2 seater, convertible, mid-engined, absolutely naff all storage space.
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Shitfest the Clown posted:I'd probably buy a C8 even despite being about to move from Florida (no snow) to Utah (lots of snow) if I didn't have a large dog I live in CO and I’m legit planning on dailying it. If it snows, I don’t really care since I can work from home. Just need a 90s Toyota sedan as a beater and I’m set.
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FBS posted:It seems too good to be true and this is still GM so I'm half-expecting some horrible flaw What going to happen is that there will only be one trim level that's below $60k and dealers will get a single allotment. The rest will probably have $15k in options. I mean, it would be great if that doesn't happen, but the cynic in me says they don't intend anyone to buy a 60k model.
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bull3964 posted:What going to happen is that there will only be one trim level that's below $60k and dealers will get a single allotment. The rest will probably have $15k in options. You’re probably right, but Ford dealers tried to pull this nonsense with GT350s and I still see new 2018s on lots.
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davebo posted:If you actually do need to raise the front every time you approach a speed bump though, this would make a pretty lovely daily driver for anyone who has a lot of those in their area. I can speak speak from experience (apologies doc!) that it is super embarrassing passing other cars on a two lane road, only to get to a speed bump you didn't know about, come to a complete stop then have to raise the front up to crawl over it while the cars you passed line up and wait behind you. Whatever tenths of a second your car theoretically gains on the Nurburgring are more than lost at that point. I was talking to a Chevy dealer on the way to the airport this morning and he said the most common corvette part they sell is the undertray beneath the nose. And for the record, a C7 Z51 is absolutely low enough to scrape itself on parking ramps and speed bumps.
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It shouldn't be THAT hard to get a stripper model. It might be tough to get one right away, but if you understand how the ordering process works it's entirely possible to get one in a reasonable time during the first model year. You need to be dealing with one of the top 5 dealers on this list: https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/01/09/the-top-50-corvette-dealers-of-2018/ Allocations will probably be based on 2019 sales too but those top 5 move a TON of cars relative to the rest of the dealers so any of them should be willing to deal. Kerbeck has a preorder list going, no idea how long it is. I think there's a thread at the Corvette Forum about it. If a dealer has an allocation, they should be willing to order whatever you want. I wanted a 1LT Z51, which is kind of a weird combo (most of the people get at least the 2LT option package). The 2LT option package was something like $6000 more and it added nothing that I really wanted aside from cooled seats (I don't miss them). I went with a guy who was like #8 in the nation at the time for allocations. I ordered mine in mid February of 2014, it was built in early May and I picked it up in late May. If I had went with one of the top 5 I'd probably have had it a month earlier. The nice thing about Kerbeck is they don't mark up cars. There's no "dealer price adjustment" from them. You'll probably pay MSRP but I'm pretty sure everyone who wants a C8 will be the first model year at least. GM will do courtesy delivery to your local dealer or you can have it delivered to the selling dealer and shipped to you. Again, this is where dealing with one of the top 5 dealers is an advantage because they've done that a bunch for people and can recommend carriers. It's full of old dudes but the Corvette Forum is seriously your best resource for buying one. So many people get screwed by dealers who claim to have allocation and then just hold on to their deposit money.
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Shitfest the Clown posted:I'd probably buy a C8 even despite being about to move from Florida (no snow) to Utah (lots of snow) if I didn't have a large dog I'm sure your dog will fit comfortably in the passenger seat. edit: or the driver seat, but I don't recommend that. Devils Affricate fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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Ir just wait until one of the Corvette coach builder companies comes up with another shooting brake hatch conversion...
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I'm actually really glad to hear that there are others here who seem to not hate the Corvette and even own them, since I've been seriously considering owning one since the C7 came out (i.e. interior wasn't COMPLETELY parts bin), and I've always been surprised that AI doesn't really talk about them much, especially since people here tend to look at cars as more than their reputations and would theoretically like the Corvette for the absurd price-performance ratio and ignore the boomer olds owners aspect. Problem is, I'd been thinking I'd purchase a C7 used from the aforementioned boomer olds when they all upgraded to a C8 but now, uh, I really want a C8. Dammit. But yeah, buying first model year of Corvette generation change (especially when it's literally a different design than it's been for 60+ years) seems like always a bad move - I remember reading about the 2014 C7s having issues with their hatches not closing because of the backwards air pressure, and people actually breaking their hatch glass if they tried to push too hard. IIRC GM even released official advice to close hatches gently to avoid that. I'll probably have to get a C7 and wait 5-10 years for the C8 to work out all the kinks and also at that point I'll be nearer the apparently necessary age to own one. As far as 60k, pretty sure that means $59,995 for the stripper model. Still very low, considering, but the C7 started "below 50k" in 2014 and crept up to where the base price was $54k or something and anything you wanted to actually buy if you weren't a boomer golf idiot was in the $65k+ range. So I'm fully expecting a C8 2LT in five years to be in the 75k range, which means I probably need to wait another 4-5 years and buy used when the C9 comes out.
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Super Soaker Party! posted:and ignore the boomer olds owners aspect. They managed to do so for the Miata... Maybe it's just prejudice against American cars.
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Looks like Ford is telling dealerships to replace every failing PowerShift dual-clutch for free on the heels of the damning Detroit Free Press article: https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/07/ford-ordering-dealerships-to-fix-dual-clutch-fiesta-and-focus-models-report/ quote:The engineer, who no longer works at Ford and requested anonymity out of concern it might jeopardize his career in the auto industry, said the company had previously identified transmission issues in high-profit trucks and disrupted everything to issue “stop ships to limit quality exposure” and fix those problems. The DPS6 transmission was treated differently. I wonder if part of killing the Focus/Fiesta in North America was to get out from under what are about to become Pinto-level cursed model names. They still have no idea why Explorer drivers become aggressive dumbshits: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-ford-explorer-owners-say-suvs-making-them-sick/ Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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fridge corn posted:Speed humps (at least here in the uk) are a pretty shallow angle and I've never had to use the front end lift to clear any in a Ferrari. It's mostly going to be used to get on to steep driveways or drop kerbs (and also to get it on the flatbed lolololol) In the US, they just pour a fuckin curb in the middle of the road. Usually with a dip on either side for good measure.
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Shitfest the Clown posted:I'd probably buy a C8 even despite being about to move from Florida (no snow) to Utah (lots of snow) if I didn't have a large dog I mean, unless you’re going to live on the benches or up in Park City, it’s really not that much snow. Just get an old Cherokee or something for the 10-ish days per year.
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