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Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the commune over the hill is practicing democratic centralism, and other communes are joining them to form a Marxist-Leninist state, what u do?

why the hell would they regress to a lesser form of society? haven’t they understood the lessons of history?

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Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


ISO posted:

Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different acronyms in different languages (IOS in English, OIN in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), our founders decided to give it the short form ISO. ISO is derived from the Greek isos, meaning equal. Whatever the country, whatever the language, we are always ISO.

edit blegh quote is not edit, whatever I aint fixing it

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

just so i'm getting this right, anarchism is maintained when a local warlord gets his band together and sacks neighboring towns for being too organized

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
How will we defeat rivals who refused to de-industrialize?

Well I've run hundreds of simulations in Civ4 that show how archers can defeat modern armor under the right conditions

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Rh3PbnAdw

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

A Big Fuckin Hornet posted:

im unread and dumb as gently caress so i honestly just dont understand anarchists. are they basically just communists who hate socialisms?

they're morons

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Flowers For Algeria posted:

the gently caress do you need copper wire for anyway, also pick your drat strawberries if you want to satisfy your bougie tastes

also i’m having trouble figuring out what makes ISO incompatible with anarchism, if a bunch of nerds want to certify that such and such product satisfies such and such criteria all power to them. OSHA and FDA won’t be needed when we eliminate private property and the profit motive so it’s a moot point

this isn't worth my time

yell at your computer or phone why don't you

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
just stop for a moment and imagine how bad an anprim goon smells

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Flowers For Algeria posted:

why the hell would they regress to a lesser form of society? haven’t they understood the lessons of history?

maybe because safety standards and manufacturing specifications aren't something you can just leave up to nerds

Autism Sneaks posted:

just stop for a moment and imagine how bad an anprim goon smells

not sure how that makes a difference

Ardent Communist
Oct 17, 2010

ALLAH! MU'AMMAR! LIBYA WA BAS!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

they're morons

I wouldn't go that far. Anarchists do good work under capitalism, fighting for the rights of the disadvantaged and organizing. I mean, I'd hope you wouldn't call the IWW morons, they have a plan to get rid of capitalism that would do tremendous damage to it.
Communists and Anarchists want the same ending, it's just Communists have the advantage of the immortal science to know that revolutions are not tea parties, and there has never been a successful revolution without repression of reactionary elements. Even Catalonia had prisons, since it's kind of hard not to unless you just execute reactionary people on sight.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Flowers For Algeria posted:

why the hell would they regress to a lesser form of society? haven’t they understood the lessons of history?

lmao

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Ardent Communist posted:

I wouldn't go that far. Anarchists do good work under capitalism, fighting for the rights of the disadvantaged and organizing. I mean, I'd hope you wouldn't call the IWW morons, they have a plan to get rid of capitalism that would do tremendous damage to it.
Communists and Anarchists want the same ending, it's just Communists have the advantage of the immortal science to know that revolutions are not tea parties, and there has never been a successful revolution without repression of reactionary elements. Even Catalonia had prisons, since it's kind of hard not to unless you just execute reactionary people on sight.

Yeah I think theres a lot of interesting parts of anarchist philosophy, and I think you can criticize Leninism on some grounds, but actual full anarchism is dumb and its loudest adherents even dumber (though that's probably just online in general)

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

anarchists give anarchism a bad rep

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Anarchists are communists that don't want to eat their vegetables

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011


What mod is that from

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

What mod is that from

Red Flood. we’re posting about it in the gaming thread.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
we have to take the anarchists very seriously because, although they all sound like completely unhinged kooks online, when they take to the street they use very sound, strategic actions like


oh.

Impermanent fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jul 20, 2019

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Impermanent posted:

we have to take the anarchists very seriously because, although they all sound like completely unhinged kooks online, when they take to the street they use very sound, strategic actions like


oh.

hmm

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




that dude was just an ‘anarchist’

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Impermanent posted:

we have to take the anarchists very seriously because, although they all sound like completely unhinged kooks online, when they take to the street they use very sound, strategic actions like


oh.

that guys cool actually.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
aw man the goons are all riled up about degrowth again

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
*plays the Internationale on blue tooth speaker*

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


R. Guyovich posted:

that guys cool actually.

he had chutzpah, sure, but where did it get anyone?

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
nancy pelosishly: capitalism is self defeating

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

R. Guyovich posted:

that guys cool actually.

He's probably one of the only good ones. RIP to a real one.

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Didn't ice delay some of the round ups because it scared them?

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
It’s 2019 and people still think socialism will save the earth lmao

You cannot have democracy and equal standards of living in a society that prioritizes environmental protection. The people will never accept the forced agrarian resettlement and return to pre-modern living standards that are required to prevent all environmental destruction. Socialism and environmentalism are incompatible.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Impermanent posted:

we have to take the anarchists very seriously because, although they all sound like completely unhinged kooks online, when they take to the street they use very sound, strategic actions like


oh.

That guy is a hero actually.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I mean I dont like anarchists or anarchism but was the only example you could think of really 'man with nothing to lose seeking to destroy an unjust system of ethnic cleansing'

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Flowers For Algeria posted:

why the hell would they regress to a lesser form of society? haven’t they understood the lessons of history?

:ironicat:

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

Impermanent posted:

we have to take the anarchists very seriously because, although they all sound like completely unhinged kooks online, when they take to the street they use very sound, strategic actions like


oh.

That’s pretty rich coming from a guy who’s profile pic is for the activist wing of the Democratic Party haha shutup liberal

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Mr. Lobe posted:

he had chutzpah, sure, but where did it get anyone?

there were no raids on the west coast because the pigs were too afraid of urban combat

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Flowers For Algeria posted:

well there’s a revolutionary period, which we’ll sorrowfully wring our hands about, and then a post-revolutionary period that will be more in line with the ideology itself

this sounds like communism except you will try to make excuses for the terror

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
you don't throw your martyrs under the bus. that's what fascists do. you're not a fascist are you?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuka Umana posted:

It’s 2019 and people still think socialism will save the earth lmao

It's literally either socialism or barbarism, dumbass.

End boss Of SGaG*
Aug 9, 2000
I REPORT EVERY POST I READ!

Chuka Umana posted:

It’s 2019 and people still think socialism will save the earth lmao

You cannot have democracy and equal standards of living in a society that prioritizes environmental protection. The people will never accept the forced agrarian resettlement and return to pre-modern living standards that are required to prevent all environmental destruction. Socialism and environmentalism are incompatible.

i thought of a real good way to save the environment that i'm totally serious about : what if we forced billions of people with no experience to spread out and dig up every inch of soil on the planet

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Taintrunner posted:

It's literally either socialism or barbarism, dumbass.

the barbarians knew how to hold a party

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Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

smarxist posted:

aw man the goons are all riled up about degrowth again

can't have a halfway-sane conversation about ecological leftism in CSPAM without Flowers barging in like a mud-caked street dog barking about how we should all revert to hunter-gatherer tribes

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