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Molybdenum posted:do you leave your archers in light clothes or do you have them get every level of hand me down from your front line? Mine eventually get Nimble so I throw basic chain shirts on them, which you'll get alot of off raiders, and they'll be good for a while until I can transition to noble mail.
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Molybdenum posted:do you leave your archers in light clothes or do you have them get every level of hand me down from your front line? Light armour plus nimble. A big reason to have archers is for overwhelm, and that will work better if they aren't in heavy armour.
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Jul 14, 2019 02:01
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Somebody on the Nexus requested a Swordmaster variant of the Lone Wolf background and it was easy to make so:  https://www.nexusmods.com/battlebrothers/mods/140
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Molybdenum posted:do you leave your archers in light clothes or do you have them get every level of hand me down from your front line? Archers should be built for nimble builds which means head+chest armor totals between 15-20 fatigue. This works well because nimble reduces all HP based damage taken, which is the majority of dangerous ranged fire, or what your archers get shot at with the most. Nimble is more valuable here than battle forged for one big reason: crossbow fire from arbalesters does ~70% through-armor damage. I always build for the 150 mail armor with the 90 closed mail coif, the highest common armor helmet without a vision penalty. This puts the nimble reduction at ~51%, but gives them a decent armor layer to work with too. That combo will keep them alive vs several arbalester/barbarian thrown weapon shots, which is the biggest threat to them by far on average. I'll upgrade with light armor named pieces as I get them, and I'll go over 20 fatigue if I got a named piece that was a little heavier but had like 200 armor attached, because it still acts as a larger barrier to incoming damage. EDIT: VVVV Interesting, never noticed it didn't block vision Mazz fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jul 14, 2019 |
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Jul 14, 2019 02:35
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The best non-famed archer helmet is actually the sallet, but you can only get that from armorsmiths. Don't think I've even seen mercs use it
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Once archers have Anticipation and Footwork I find that outside of extreme situations like 30 Orc camps or the 47 Goblin city they don't get hit anyway. With Nimble as well you can kinda give them whatever. I never buy them any armor; they just get leftover mail coifs and basic mail shirts.
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Jul 14, 2019 03:44
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Just gently caress off with the goddamn caravan/delivery contracts already.
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Jul 14, 2019 23:24
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itd be nice if you could do one contract per town or something, that way if youre offered a delivery a few towns over, you could do local contracts along the way.
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Just published two additional mods. The first one is just another requested company origin that took 10 minutes to code/copy-paste together:  https://www.nexusmods.com/battlebrothers/mods/141 As much as this is just a copy-paste job, I kinda like it. The much bigger mod I just uploaded, however, is a background rebalancing mod Gridlocked and I started working on about one and half months ago or something like that: https://www.nexusmods.com/battlebrothers/mods/142 This mod... ...rebalances character backgrounds. ...increases gear variety and, for some backgrounds, level ranges. ...adds special traits to some backgrounds. ...reduces reliance on dedicated ranged backgrounds. Took two or three long Discord calls and a month of playtesting and tweaking to get where it is. I could probably continue tweaking it for another month at least but interest in the game seems to wane and I'm definitely starting to burn out on it myself so I'm putting it out there now. Overall, I've definitely been using more backgrounds than before, and entering the crisis with three archers, none of which is a Hunter, was a nice change when it happened (although Hunters are still the best). Molybdenum posted:itd be nice if you could do one contract per town or something, that way if youre offered a delivery a few towns over, you could do local contracts along the way. Wizard Styles fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Jul 15, 2019 03:37
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My big wish for this game is they do something with map variety; something like castle sieges with some kind of vertical design or something. It's very addicting but I am also getting pretty burnt out mainly because it's always the same few maps and the bigger battles just feel like they take too long with all the individual movements.
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I'm not sure how much verticality the game could handle considering the, let's say, rudimentary line of sight mechanics. But yeah, more tile sets and things like buildings you can enter, maybe even terrain features you can actually interact with, would do a lot for the game. And it's something mods are very unlikely to tackle.
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   At some point this game decided that I really like 2H axes with nearly full bonus rolls on their damage. The game is correct. EDIT: Also I can definitely sing the praises of a duelist throwing specialist now. They loving manhandle poo poo at 2-3 spaces away. It's the damage of a crossbow but the RoF of a warbow. Extremely good against dudes like named knights or swordmasters too, since they tend to have way less ranged resistance than melee. Mazz fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Jul 15, 2019 05:49
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My brave militia boys almost cleared the monolith with no deaths, except for the nimble cleaver bro who got hit three times in a row in the head. Twice by warscythes and once by a necrosavant. RIP he and his zweihander's helmet. Turns out pure style won't turn aside every blow. In related news, it's a peculiar feeling when your band of talented scrubs turned into hardened killers is on a late game noble war raiding mission and 30 militia in their best gambesons turn up to shield the backwoods hog farm that you're getting paid to burn down. Thank god like half of them had the sense to run away.
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I feel like I bit off more than I can chew by accepting a city siege mission on day ~80. I can barely do the first combat but the second one immediately after feels pretty impossible. Is there some kind of trip I can use or should I just abandon it?
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Wizard Styles posted:I'm not sure how much verticality the game could handle considering the, let's say, rudimentary line of sight mechanics. Well, it's a siege! You just get shot in the face and can't shoot back, also someone drops piss and rock on you 
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Jul 15, 2019 09:24
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ranged question: whats the to hit calculation when shooting into crowds? if youre just interested in doing some indisciminate damage is it better to aim at a second rank enemy blocked by two enemies in front or should you aim at the first rank?
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Anyone tried the legends mod? I checked it out briefly yesterday and it seems to add a bunch of stuff. I appreciated the new bandit chaff but nobody drops anything it seems.
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Molybdenum posted:ranged question: Mostly yes. Positioning matters as there are times where you can get clear shots on distant dudes because they are directly in line with the archer, but most of the time in crowds you just aim for second line guys so the little red markers for LoS blocks is on enemies. You want to avoid shield guys if at all possible as well, i.e. aiming at an archer with two polearms in front of him is an excellent area target. Also you can shoot over one tile gaps with no penalty so sometimes it’s worth moving up to get clearer shots as the battle progresses. That and hopping on hills gives a slight hit bonus along with the vision/range increase. Mazz fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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I just accidentally quit without saving after winning a huge battle with no losses and suddenly I'm really wishing this game had a "do you really want to quit without saving?" feature.
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  This required editing more scripts than I thought it would but  Intended to replace a low level variant of Brigand Raiders that is different from regular Raiders in a few ways. For instance, the low level variant has no Masteries, the regular does. Which isn't great because sometimes you don't know if a Raider with a pike can move one or two hexes before attacking or something like that. vyelkin posted:I just accidentally quit without saving after winning a huge battle with no losses and suddenly I'm really wishing this game had a "do you really want to quit without saving?" feature. 
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That extended crisis mod I’m pretty sure broke my crisis entirely. Started at day 90 its currently day 225 with no end of the noble war in sight. Took the mod out hope it corrects itself. I have gotten a solid number of named knight kills out of this though, which is great. Mazz fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Started a Lone Wolf playthrough having gone to day 360 and the three crises with my previous band of northern raiders. I think the game clicked for me somewhere around day 300 and after that I really just wanted restart with better boys. Lone Wolf is extremely good fun, hacking dozens of thugs to pieces is never getting old. the loop of adrenaline, indomitable, chop off a head, recover is extremely strong and ultimately necessary when facing anything more than thugs. Has anyone used mods for continuing character progress? My lone wolf is lvl 12 now, I'd be fine with a perk every three levels or five levels or something? Opinions appreciated. The starting gear of sellswords armour and longsword isn't quite cutting it anymore, need to be able to access more stamina up around 104 in combat but you burn through it rapidly, especially when facing anyone with maces, which are becoming my highest priority target. Day 36 and I'm considering investing in building a company after the noble crisis, depending on how my finances are looking around then. Can't get enough of this game.
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I use the veteran levels mod on the nexus that gives a perk every 3 levels past 11 and >1 stat rolls in a couple random categories past 11. I couldn’t really live without either anymore, they both make keeping guys alive for hundreds of days feel more rewarding and they let you do things like get pathfinder on everyone without feeling like you’re missing something crucial along the way. The random stat rolls is especially neat to me, you don’t get to just boost Melee skills forever but you’ll get opportunities to shore up resolve and what not over time. Getting a (normal) guy to 17 takes ~300 days so it’s not like either of these things happens fast. You’re going to want to build a party for the first crisis IMO, if you’re playing on vet/expert you will simply just run into too many enemies that can hurt you to not have a party after a while. Barbarian reavers/chosen, ancient polearms/cleavers, and noble war parties are all capable of landing enough hits to burn you down. Most of the noble town missions in general will require help. My usual route is checking towns for 2-3 star in good stat guys and building the party slowly. Lone Wolf lets you pace yourself in that way, which is really nice. The tryout stars mod is super nice here, and frankly you’ll very likely want to consider the mod that gives Lone Wolf 4 reserve slots, as not having room to grab extra archers or what not can get really tedious late game. EDIT: Here's my full mod list from a previous post (with the duds removed): Mazz posted:You're in luck! They are all using mod hooks now. Be careful about the age of mods if you grab other ones, some of the interesting ones like longer crisis or the event frequency mods are pretty outdated and don't seem to work 100% right. Mazz fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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i was camped outside a brigand base waiting until dawn to attack when i was attacked by a (8) Hexe group. The group turned out to be one Hexe and 7 melee brigand raiders. The raiders were all charmed so I thought I'd free them forba reward by killing the Hexe really quick. I killed the Hexe first but there was no reward except what I took from their corpses.
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And finally did it. All challenge battles and all three crisii beaten, all to get to see the screen for retiring a legendary company. Totally worth it.  If only the obituary had the fallen dogs, that would be a list worth shedding tears over. I'll probably take a break and come back for a fully modded campaign down the line.
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ZearothK posted:And finally did it. All challenge battles and all three crisii beaten, all to get to see the screen for retiring a legendary company. Totally worth it. It's bonkers just how strong dogs are, they're a very strong distractment for the simple price of 2-300 gold and properly used, they'll serve you a few battles even.
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I think my favourite thing about whips is how good they are at swatting ghosts. It's gotten to the point that any cleaver master gets automatically renamed Belmont.
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Mazz posted:Loads of good stuff Thanks much appreciated.
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So my noble war finally ended after like 280 days, removed the mod at ~160. I switched sides to one of the weaker houses because I wanted that famed weapon, but that house still lost to the major one on the map, the one I usually play for and had taken a couple forts for before the switch. Anyway, war ends and Armsberg has like 60-70% of the towns on the map. We’re finally back to peace so I can interact with them again, thank god. Less than 50-60 days later one of their noble missions sends me into the northern woods to kill an orc camp, only for a 24 man noble party to ambush me immediately after. Killing them was trivial at this point, but now I have all the joys of a noble war ongoing without any of the rewards and no way to recover the rep with all those towns  Also the heavy barbarian throwing spears on a thrown duelist are like a dagger party from 3 spaces away. It’s incredible for grabbing armor. Mazz fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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What the hell is with wolf riders? If I face them in a battle when they're outnumbered, they just run around in circles refusing to attack or retreat. This is boring as poo poo.
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You were simply rewarded as a traitor deserves 
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surrounded by 8 alps at night time. i kept losing no matter what I did, even took off all my armor (higher initiative and fatigue) and used 1h weapons to maximize the number of attacks and I never even managed to engage a single alp at melee before having half my bros in hopeless situations. however, I had a guy with impatient and I read a comment on steam that alps don't make nightmares after a retreat is signaled. So, at the start of battle I signaled a retreat and all my bros got away safe. kinda lame. whats the actual plan? I didnt have any dogs to release either. also: is it worth keeping the golden goose for anything besides the daily money? i can sell it for about 4k, so I can get 4k now or get 4k in roughly 270 days? Molybdenum fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Your biggest mistake was using one handed weapons as you will get more attacks out of two handed weapons and berserk.
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Molybdenum posted:surrounded by 8 alps at night time. Dogs are super important yes, because the nightmares die to any hit. You should have dogs on everyone who doesn't have a necklace on as a general thing. They are force multipliers, even if its just hit sponges. Frankly you should mostly just avoid alps till you have a solid company because low MAtk means getting overwhelmed by nightmares and low resolve means they die extra fast to the nightmare attack. Use swords and spears if you can, they have a flat hit % bonus, 10/20% respectively. Try to open paths for bros to make big jumps towards the alps, you need to move ASAP to the alps themselves. Again, much easier with bros who can handle 1-2 nightmares each round consistently. FWIW Theres very little reason to ever actually fight alps though, just do the retreat thing and move on unless you can't. On the golden goose, depends if you need the money and how long you plan to play. Works either way. Hunt11 posted:Your biggest mistake was using one handed weapons as you will get more attacks out of two handed weapons and berserk. Against alps this is really only true for something like greatswords on guys with 2+ nightmares, you're better off giving everyone 1h for the most part here because its number of individual attacks, not the damage done. Like geists, the nightmares die to any damage taken, and the alps themselves go down fast once in range. Mazz fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Molybdenum posted:also: is it worth keeping the golden goose for anything besides the daily money? i can sell it for about 4k, so I can get 4k now or get 4k in roughly 270 days? It's more like 4k now or 8k in roughly 270 days if you sell it then
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Mazz posted:
I've built a throwing duelist but need the barbarian weapons - throwers with shields are also surprisingly effective at marching down regular archers. The man with a crossbow doesn't know what hit him.
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Southpaugh posted:I've built a throwing duelist but need the barbarian weapons - throwers with shields are also surprisingly effective at marching down regular archers. The man with a crossbow doesn't know what hit him. Both the barb heavy axes and spears are great, the axes do a bit more armor damage but with duelist the barb spears do something like 22-40 HP damage per throw, before the 20-40% increases. It’s like a dude with crossbow mastery who can shoot 3 times a round with berserking. You can’t wear the shield once you utilize duelist btw, only throwing nets. And bags/belts + quick hands is huge, don’t overlook those. Bags especially, makes the bagged gear fatigue free. This game I’m running 3 warbows, 2 xbows and 1 thrown, they’re all kicking rear end. Warbows still probably come off as the most consistently useful because of the reach + RoF (esp a good named one), but the others certainly have their place. I’d probably swap out 1 xbow in hindsight for another thrower but I’m happy for now. Gotta see how the thrown do against the ancient dead still, it’s my last crisis. Mazz fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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yeah he still has his shield because his ranged defense isn't quite where I want it to be for dealing with the noble war. Those orcs are getting netted and stabbed though. gonna be some colloseum poo poo.
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Anyone have any tips or tricks for starting out as the lone wolf? I keep getting swarmed. Any good seeds maybe? or just Git Gud? I freely admit I'm terrible at this game.
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Nuclear War posted:Anyone have any tips or tricks for starting out as the lone wolf? I keep getting swarmed. Any good seeds maybe? or just Git Gud? I freely admit I'm terrible at this game. You want to be surrounded, and then cleave through them like the chaff that they are  Seriously though, the way to do this is to get a high resolve, I'd say above 70. Took fortified mind for this, and I haven't regretted it. If you get wavering you're in trouble. Also, kill the guys with maces and clubs first. They steal fatigue and have at least a 5% chance of stunning you. I'd also recommend buying training as often as possible, as when you get underdog and berserk, you'll be going through 10-12 bandits with few issues. Maybe avoid marksmen until you get battleforged 
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