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Tesseraction posted:KyoAni has done some incredible trolls on the anime community before, but I doubt that influenced the killer. haha, that's funny. Partly related to the discussion... When I went through Akihabara it became quite apparent how important the fetishization of young girls is there. There are some animes that I like and I'm certainly no prude but some of the stores where they had the more extreme stuff actually made me a bit uncomfortable. There's a real industry for youthful innocence there. I saw the lineup for a idol group (no idea who they were) but the guys there were some of the creepiest looking dudes. The leers and stares my girlfriend got from those kind of people made her uncomfortable as well, not to mention the convenience store clerk who asked to grab her tits. No, she was not dressed provocatively. Japan looks like a tough place for women.
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Tarkus posted:haha, that's funny. Partly related to the discussion... When I went through Akihabara it became quite apparent how important the fetishization of young girls is there. There are some animes that I like and I'm certainly no prude but some of the stores where they had the more extreme stuff actually made me a bit uncomfortable. There's a real industry for youthful innocence there. I saw the lineup for a idol group (no idea who they were) but the guys there were some of the creepiest looking dudes. The leers and stares my girlfriend got from those kind of people made her uncomfortable as well, not to mention the convenience store clerk who asked to grab her tits. No, she was not dressed provocatively. I caught an old Japanese guy going through a girl's bag in a hostel after she went for a shower. I held him up until she came back. He claimed he dropped some money. She even was missing a pair of underwear. The night clerks didn't want to involve the police and were more suspicious of her friend who was really pissed off. The panty snatcher disappeared for a few days. It turned out he was a long term guest. He was still staying when I left.
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Hello! I have been to Japan once before so I am qualified to comment.Tarkus posted:Thinking about it, after my trip to Japan, I couldn't help but think that Japan has some serious social issues ahead of it. Yes quote:Every society has those, but Japan's bizarre mix of extremely conservative social norms and the liberalization of many things, including women, makes for an interesting few decades for them there. Even in my short 2 weeks there I saw how repressed many aspects of Japanese society were and now that the threads are coming loose, we're going to see more extreme attacks from these quasi-incels like the one that burned down the studio. Sure! quote:Interestingly, that animation studio has put out some social commentary animes (as far as I know). That could be the reason they were targeted. I noticed a lot of different media talking about various social issues coming out over the last few years. If they're talking about these things then it must be pretty serious because Japan is the kind of place where they seem to like to keep everything bad on the down-low. Maybe! quote:From what I can tell, based on the many documentaries and shows I've watched, I think there is a real sense of disenchantment amongst the younger people there. I'm YOUNG quote:As an interesting aside, I noticed that the vast majority of people doing any kind of light physical labour or non-service work were 50+ years old. Their aging crisis is quite evident. すごいっすね Tarkus posted:There's a real industry for youthful innocence there. I saw the lineup for a idol group (no idea who they were) but the guys there were some of the creepiest looking dudes. The leers and stares my girlfriend got from those kind of people made her uncomfortable as well, not to mention the convenience store clerk who asked to grab her tits. No, she was not dressed provocatively. 残念ですね Thanks for listening to my opinion. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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ntan1 posted:Hello! I have been to Japan once before so I am qualified to comment. I'm assuming that this was meant to be dismissive because I was a short term visitor and I'm drawing big conclusions, which is fair. Thanks for adding to the conversation.
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Bloodnose posted:What sort of statements has the government made about this? I assume both local and national officials have said something by now. p much the generic stuff so far since the dude is still asleep due to being found very injured. I dont expect talk shows to really harp on this until Saturday/Sunday, eg. when Beat Takeshi or Sanma do their main shows
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Tarkus posted:Thinking about it, after my trip to Japan, I couldn't help but think that Japan has some serious social issues ahead of it. Every society has those, but Japan's bizarre mix of extremely conservative social norms and the liberalization of many things, including women, makes for an interesting few decades for them there. Even in my short 2 weeks there I saw how repressed many aspects of Japanese society were and now that the threads are coming loose, we're going to see more extreme attacks from these quasi-incels like the one that burned down the studio.
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Tarkus posted:Thinking about it, after my trip to Japan, I couldn't help but think that Japan has some serious social issues ahead of it. Every society has those, but Japan's bizarre mix of extremely conservative social norms and the liberalization of many things, including women, makes for an interesting few decades for them there. Even in my short 2 weeks there I saw how repressed many aspects of Japanese society were and now that the threads are coming loose, we're going to see more extreme attacks from these quasi-incels like the one that burned down the studio. I too have gone to Japan once. Last year actually. How you managed to conclude this much from a 2 weeks stay is beyond me.
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In 2019, everything that is happening in Japan is happening everywhere else, so you don't really need to deep dive into "weird japan" theories to explain stuff.
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The only thing I can confidently conclude from my stay there is that they're all horribly stiff and robotic when it comes to customer service. I was given 3 different SIM cards when I arrived at Narita and none of them worked. The lady working there told me to turn my phone on and off like 10 times, which I did. Then she brought her boss, who also made me do the same thing. Then they put me on the phone with their main company or something, who also promptly told me to turn my phone on and off. My phone was zapped by a lightning strike as it was charging through a power bank. Took it to a shop and they immediately diagnosed it with a bill of 20,000 yen to have it shipped to China and back for some reason? Fixed it back home for like $30. None of the poo poo I wrote is relevant to anything at all but I like remembering all of this. ass fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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rear end posted:I too have gone to Japan once. Last year actually. How you managed to conclude this much from a 2 weeks stay is beyond me. I should clarify, I didn't 'Just go to Japan once'. I have ties via family with Japan (and China to a small extent) and haven't been there since the late 90's. I'm just ruminating about my observations about my last trip there based on my interest in transformative changes going on in the world, and my experiences of it as an adult. I genuinely apologize if I offended anyone.
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Tarkus posted:Thinking about it, after my trip to Japan, I couldn't help but think that Japan has some serious social issues ahead of it. Every society has those, but Japan's bizarre mix of extremely conservative social norms and the liberalization of many things, including women, makes for an interesting few decades for them there. Even in my short 2 weeks there I saw how repressed many aspects of Japanese society were and now that the threads are coming loose, we're going to see more extreme attacks from these quasi-incels like the one that burned down the studio. Hey sorry, this has been touched upon by others, and I’m being a bit harsh here, but seriously go gently caress yourself. I don’t give the slightest of fucks if you have some vague blood connections to Japan which you want to drape yourself in to make some bullshit handwavy appeal to racial authority; your take is stupid and reductivist and uninformed borderline orientalist horseshit and you should feel ashamed you even for a moment had the stupid urge to vomit this on to your keyboard.
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LimburgLimbo posted:Hey sorry, this has been touched upon by others, and I’m being a bit harsh here, but seriously go gently caress yourself. I don’t give the slightest of fucks if you have some vague blood connections to Japan which you want to drape yourself in to make some bullshit handwavy appeal to racial authority; your take is stupid and reductivist and uninformed borderline orientalist horseshit and you should feel ashamed you even for a moment had the stupid urge to vomit this on to your keyboard. Honestly I think you're reading way too much into what he was trying to say. e: like it's one thing when you point out to someone that they hosed up and it's another thing to go ballistic on them and put words in their mouth. ass fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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LimburgLimbo posted:Hey sorry, this has been touched upon by others, and I’m being a bit harsh here, but seriously go gently caress yourself. I don’t give the slightest of fucks if you have some vague blood connections to Japan which you want to drape yourself in to make some bullshit handwavy appeal to racial authority; your take is stupid and reductivist and uninformed borderline orientalist horseshit and you should feel ashamed you even for a moment had the stupid urge to vomit this on to your keyboard. That's some vitriol right there. As right as you may be, I think you're taking this a bit too seriously.
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AnoHito posted:Dozens of people are dead and your response is "serves them right for making anime, amirite I gotta say it is nice that 2006-2009 era Moe Panic “K-On/Haruhi Is Child Porn” takes have gone away. It’s insane to think that however bad English-language discourse on Japan on online forums and clickbait news sites is in 2019, it was like 5x as bad 10 or 15 years ago
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I've been to Hong Kong twice in the past two years. Hope the HK thread is ready for my hot takes on exactly what's causing the problems their country is facing. Bonus "speaking from authority" points if I claim some tenuous family tie. poo poo like these posts is why I detest talking to anyone who's been here for less than five years or so, or is here on holiday. Everyone suddenly is a chin-stroking expert on  GLORIOUS NIPPON and are rivalled only by vegans and crossfitters on how much they want to talk about it.
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Weatherman posted:poo poo like these posts is why I detest talking to anyone who's been here for less than five years or so, or is here on holiday.
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Weatherman posted:I've been to Hong Kong twice in the past two years. Hope the HK thread is ready for my hot takes on exactly what's causing the problems their country is facing. Bonus "speaking from if only everyone could be exactly like you with your lived experiences, then definitely they would have all figured it out!
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Weatherman posted:I've been to Hong Kong twice in the past two years. Hope the HK thread is ready for my hot takes on exactly what's causing the problems their country is facing. Bonus "speaking from If the problems are obvious, you don't need some deep lived experiences to notice.
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icantfindaname posted:I gotta say it is nice that 2006-2009 era Moe Panic “K-On/Haruhi Is Child Porn” takes have gone away. It’s insane to think that however bad English-language discourse on Japan on online forums and clickbait news sites is in 2019, it was like 5x as bad 10 or 15 years ago This reminds me of discussing Japanese porn with a Japanese poster elsewhere. His response to stuff like lolicom was "pretty much nobody here actually likes that stuff." It's the same for Yakuza, you hear about how Yakuza - organized criminals - are treated like they're no big deal. It was a few years ago now but there was supposed to be some big Yakuza gang war happening or something and the news articles on it and forum posts were like "yep, there goes those wacky gangsters murdering each other again and the cops don't care." Then I do some research and learn that most Japanese people hate criminal thugs just like anybody else and it's more that the L DP and those in power are or were horribly corrupt and always cut the Yakuza slack. We get various "interesting facts" leaked out to us here in the West and conclude that those facts represent Japan, even though they represent .1% of Japan at best. It's always infuriated me how quickly people onlin take to stereotyping Japan. And that's to say nothing of how people act like the Empire of Japan is coming back any time some random Japanese reactionary does something. Again, something like .1% of the population does not equal Japan. The end of Yukio Maishima seems as relevant now as it was when it happened. Nobody wants the Empire back. Although i'm honestly curious about you lucky folks who have been to Japan or maybe even live or com e from there. What's a maid cafe like? My only experience with it is from the otome game Amnesia. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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My favourite Oh Japan thing happened about 10 years ago when some Western media claimed that eyeball licking was a trend among schoolkids.
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:My favourite Oh Japan thing happened about 10 years ago when some Western media claimed that eyeball licking was a trend among schoolkids.
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NikkolasKing posted:Although i'm honestly curious about you lucky folks who have been to Japan or maybe even live or com e from there. What's a maid cafe like? My only experience with it is from the otome game Amnesia. They called me on stage and made me wear a bunny hair band. Then they took a picture, signed it and I have it kept in a file next to my passport to remind myself of the most shameful experience of my life.
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In other news, the elections for the House of Councillors have ended just now and we already have the results. The JDP still keeps its majority but lost 10 seats, making it even harder for them to pass constitutional reforms. The democratic-constitutionalists were the ones who made the most gains, going from 24 to 32 members. Other than that, turnout was below 50%, giving us situations like this. https://twitter.com/jonny_7022/status/1152929097787400193?s=20
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I Love Annie May posted:In other news, the elections for the House of Councillors have ended just now and we already have the results. The JDP still keeps its majority but lost 10 seats, making it even harder for them to pass constitutional reforms. The democratic-constitutionalists were the ones who made the most gains, going from 24 to 32 members.
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NikkolasKing posted:It was a few years ago now but there was supposed to be some big Yakuza gang war happening or something and the news articles on it and forum posts were like "yep, there goes those wacky gangsters murdering each other again and the cops don't care." I remember this. All I heard about it was reports from noted sleaze Jake Adelstein about how serious it was and any day now we could be facing some very bad violence in the streets. Iirc little happened
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eh, that was probably borderline horny posting actually
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Just recently there was the scandal with comedians drinking out with Yakuza: https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/06/0128f19c3500-talent-agency-suspends-11-comedians-for-underground-business.html
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Adaptabullshit posted:Just recently there was the scandal with comedians drinking out with Yakuza: This scandal surprised me because I thought that it was fairly common knowledge that Yoshimoto had ties to organized crime. At least, I had understood it was not a very well kept secret. I guess the difference between that and actual confirmation is enough to set everybody to clutching their pearls.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:This scandal surprised me because I thought that it was fairly common knowledge that Yoshimoto had ties to organized crime. At least, I had understood it was not a very well kept secret. I guess the difference between that and actual confirmation is enough to set everybody to clutching their pearls.
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