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Cheesus posted:I read all of Brian's books up to "Dune 7" and found them stock and predictable but not terribly offensive. The Butlerian Jihad was really weak compared to the "man vs thinking machines" idea from the encyclopedia and it was stupidly predictable that it was the origin for everything in the Dune universe. In the end, I saw it in the same light I viewed nearly all Star Wars expanded universe stories: entertaining popcorn stories written by those with considerably less talent than the original author. My theory is that most of the prequels are written mostly by Kevin J Anderson, who seems like the kind of author who can churn out passable genre fiction by the yard. The Jedi Academy trilogy filled an afternoon or two each when I was like 12, entertaining enough. But Dune 7 was based on the super secret notes by Frank and @duneauthor wanted to share them as little as possible, if they existed at all, so he wrote much of those books himself. exmachina fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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Hannibal Rex posted:Dune: The XXX Parody will be interesting. You like that, what's in the box, you dirty little slut?
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And now I need to find out if anyone has done a Se7en/Dune “What’s in the box?” thing...
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two pages back.
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Hannibal Rex posted:Dune: The XXX Parody will be interesting. I must not cum. Cum is the mind killer. Cum is the little death (  ) that brings total obliteration. I will face my cum. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the one eyed sandworm to see its path. Where the cum has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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exmachina posted:My theory is that most of the prequels are written mostly by Kevin J Anderson, who seems like the kind of author who can churn out passable genre fiction by the yard. The Jedi Academy trilogy filled an afternoon or two each when I was like 12, entertaining enough. The thing that makes me doubt that the notes exist is the fact that it took them 20 years to find them, yet Road To Dune (the book, not the short story in Eye) contains a foreword - written by Bill Ransom who was a contemporary of Frank, was almost his neighbour, and even wrote a few books with him - which strongly implies that the notes they have are based not only on the ones they claim to have found, but also based on a whole bunch of stuff that was donated to a university archive which "suddenly" turned up not long after a bunch of notes that were used to write the House books. Basically, as I construct the timeline, apparently a literal treasure trove turned up from at least three different sources within a very short time? I know coincidences happen, but I'm skeptical. Phil Moscowitz posted:I must not cum. Cum is the mind killer. Cum is the little death (  I'm curious though - isn't le petite mort the time post-orgasm? BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:I think it's more than that. She says flat out that it's "pain by nerve-induction." It's stimulating the sensory nerves directly, without actually using the stimulus those nerves respond to. Sort of like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation which is a thing that can cause pain, except the box activates peripheral nerves rather than the CNS.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I must not cum. Cum is the mind killer. Cum is the little death ( “You mean of course Duke Leto Atreides, Paul’s father” “I mean PAUL Atreides. We want him pegged”
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Kinda tempered by the implication the Fremen did a bunch of war crimes and the ones that didn't come back basically became the colonial overclass on conquered planets. I mean, the parallel is the Arab conquests and establishment of the first Caliphate in the generations after the death of Mohammed, so yeah, pretty much.
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ilovebeersooomuch posted:You like that, what's in the box, you dirty little slut? try looking in that place you dare not look, you will find me there 
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Oh, Thufir ! I see they've installed your plug already. Don't be angry. Everyone gets one here. But this is not why we're here. We brought you a little cat, Thufir. You must care for it if you wish to live
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Doc Hawkins posted:The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it. Well I must have absolute control over that Target men's room I just visited
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D. Ebdrup posted:
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The Bloop posted:Well I must have absolute control over that Target men's room I just visited The deliberate and systematic destruction of ALL toilets on Arrakis! ilovebeersooomuch fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Seeing a few things on social media about filming for Dune 1: The First (Part One) having wrapped. I guess this time next year the hype machine will be in full swing.
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Vlex posted:Seeing a few things on social media about filming for Dune 1: The First (Part One) having wrapped. I guess this time next year the hype machine will be in full swing. yup https://twitter.com/SecretsOfDune/status/1152710712944398336?s=20
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Lovely Bautista confirmed? I don't see how it could be any other way, unless Feyd is a super-duper a-list actor who they want to save for the hype train.
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exmachina posted:Lovely Bautista confirmed? I don't see how it could be any other way, unless Feyd is
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This is the best possible answer imho Or sting plays Gurney and busts out some sick acoustic numbers at every opportunity.
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I haven't been in much of a reading mood lately so it's taking me an i eternity to get through the books, finally made it through God Emperor, really liked it alot, one thing that I'm liking about the Dune universe is even if the books themselves are weird or not great, pieced together they make something really good and fun to talk and think about.
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free hubcaps posted:when is the A Fire Upon the Deep movie coming out tho 
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Cats was just a proof of concept for the dog people
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free hubcaps posted:when is the A Fire Upon the Deep movie coming out tho You'd like that, wouldn’t you?
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Personally, I'd like to see some of Harry Harrison’s stuff (besides Make Room! Make Room! obviously), like the Deathworld and SSR series. And Jack Vance (Demon Princes, Planet of Adventure). And Keith Laumer's Retief. And James H. Schmitz, and Fritz Leiber, and and no gently caress it, they’re making more lovely superhero crud 
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skasion posted:Cats was just a proof of concept for the chairdog
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Zopotantor posted:Personally, I'd like to see some of Harry Harrison’s stuff (besides Make Room! Make Room! obviously), like the Deathworld and SSR series. And Jack Vance (Demon Princes, Planet of Adventure). And Keith Laumer's Retief. And James H. Schmitz, and Fritz Leiber, and and
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Zopotantor posted:Personally, I'd like to see some of Harry Harrison’s stuff (besides Make Room! Make Room! obviously), like the Deathworld and SSR series. And Jack Vance (Demon Princes, Planet of Adventure). And Keith Laumer's Retief. And James H. Schmitz, and Fritz Leiber, and and i want an hbo series of the book of the new sun
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:This is the best possible answer imho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zEMitTkaU You'll remember me when the west wind moves upon the sands of arakeen You'll forget the sun in his jealous sky as we walk without rhythm in dunes of gold
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kiimo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zEMitTkaU I am 100% down with this and a Sting/Dune themed concept album.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I am 100% down with this and a Sting/Dune themed concept album. You could settle for Grimes' Dune themed concept album https://youtu.be/iNfkumyKyOA
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Super Waffle posted:You could settle for Grimes' Dune themed concept album  Why would you post this?
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Zopotantor posted:Personally, I'd like to see some of Harry Harrison’s stuff (besides Make Room! Make Room! obviously), like the Deathworld and SSR series. And Jack Vance (Demon Princes, Planet of Adventure). And Keith Laumer's Retief. And James H. Schmitz, and Fritz Leiber, and and A Dying Earth TV series... antiheroes are popular these days, right?
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Super Waffle posted:You could settle for Grimes' Dune themed concept album 
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Mister Speaker posted:Lovely Bautista confirmed? I don't see how it could be any other way, unless Feyd is I used to think this until someone said Tom Holland. This is actually what is sustaining me. I love Bautista and he is great for Rabban, which is a bit part in the novel unfortunately. This is why I fear for lovely Rabban BTW. He is pretty high profile ATM and the studio might want him in more than 2 scenes. Only a similarly famous actor (like Holland) could trump him. I couldnt really blame anyone for merging the characters to be honest. Getting rid of Feyd also lets them excise the pedo aspect to the Baron, which is actually really problematic, even in Lynch's time (hence the heartplugs) Super Waffle posted:You could settle for Grimes' Dune themed concept album Also to cleanse everyones palatte, here is some dune themed (kinda) late 90's DnB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_qtEqpueew I don't know what the connection between Drum and Bass and Dune is. Here is another from my hometown! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFQ-yfyzxWk exmachina fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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I don't know anything about these guys, I just read about them the other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liHfEs2jP8k
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exmachina posted:Lovely Bautista confirmed? I don't see how it could be any other way, unless Feyd is a super-duper a-list actor who they want to save for the hype train. Feyd exists only to absorb exposition until his arena fight, which works perfectly as the start of part 2: Hammer home the Harkonnen victory, introduce a fresh antagonist, and summarize part 1 during the Baron's conference with Fenring. Is there a compelling reason to have Feyd (instead of Rabban) repeating "yes, uncle" in the scene where the Baron lays out his plan? Especially since Feyd has nothing to do with the plan, no emotional stake in Arrakis, and isn't part of the attack? And, if I'm right about the arena fight, won't appear again until part 2? It's Rabban who ruled Arrakis previously, it's Rabban who gets kicked out without knowing why, it's Rabban who'd be most interested to learn about the Emperor's treachery, it's Rabban who gets reinstalled after the Harkonnen victory. I'm sure they'll play up his involvement in the Harkonnen attack too. It makes a ton of sense to have him be the one learning about the plan along with the audience, and to leave Feyd for a part 2 which might not happen.
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Zopotantor posted:Personally, I'd like to see some of Harry Harrison’s stuff (besides Make Room! Make Room! obviously), like the Deathworld and SSR series. And Jack Vance (Demon Princes, Planet of Adventure). And Keith Laumer's Retief. And James H. Schmitz, and Fritz Leiber, and and I would like to see Ringworld, could be quite a spectacle.
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