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The Kins posted:Heretic II I really enjoyed Heretic II at release 
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Black Griffon posted:Did anyone ever make a replacement for Brutal Doom for those of us who just enjoy a lot of blood and violence, or did that loving weirdo crackpot nazi-something creator salt the fields, so to say? fishmech posted:Project Brutality is basically what you're looking for. There's a modder on the ZDoom forums going through the Brutal Doom code and trying to de-tangle it. They've released a version of their fork. There's stuff cut like headshots and fatalities but it still plays fast and quick: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=62203&hilit=bdlite
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Jul 21, 2019 20:06
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JerryLee posted:I really enjoyed Heretic II at release The first I ever ordered off of the internet back in the day was a box set of SiN, Heretic 2, and Battlezone 2.  I got it mainly for Sin, but Heretic 2 was surprising enjoyable despite not being an FPS. Battlezone 2 was kind of an odd ball though when compared to the first game. More of an RTS than a shooter, but it was interesting to play at least. Vakal fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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Jul 21, 2019 20:14
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Wamdoodle posted:There's a modder on the ZDoom forums going through the Brutal Doom code and trying to de-tangle it. They've released a version of their fork. There's stuff cut like headshots and fatalities but it still plays fast and quick: Yes, this might be it. With Brutality I'm gonna have to disable like 95% of the mod, there's so much nonsense when I just want blood.
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Jul 21, 2019 20:19
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Black Griffon posted:Yes, this might be it. With Brutality I'm gonna have to disable like 95% of the mod, there's so much nonsense when I just want blood. Then just use ketchup mod?
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Jul 21, 2019 20:22
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treat posted:Then just use ketchup mod? Yes, yes yes yes, yes yes yes yes. Good thread.
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Jul 21, 2019 20:44
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The Kins posted:
Holy poo poo Nightmare Creatures! I had a light memory of me playing a... proto-pseudo-Dark Soulsesque game in pc in the 90s, but I had no idea of what was. This it.
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Jul 21, 2019 21:06
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This is a supremely first world problem, but I wish someone would 'fix' the Cacodemon corpse sprite by making it a bit smaller. That would fix the issue of a dozen of Caco corpses impeding visibility in narrow passages. Sometimes you don't know when a enemy has turned a corner and is about to fire at you, it happened me twice in the last week.
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Jul 21, 2019 21:09
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Arivia posted:Couldn't Strife be played in multiplayer? Deathmatch only, you can't even try to launch it in co-op, the game mode was ripped out. Not that it would even be playable because the dialogues don't work in multiplayer (or even demos). At one point though they did want to implement it, and there is some weird holdovers from that.
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Jul 21, 2019 21:32
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Black Griffon posted:Yes, yes yes yes, yes yes yes yes. Good thread. Apparently Nashgore is the better gore mod now, since it's actually written by someone who knows how to code. Turin Turambar posted:This is a supremely first world problem, but I wish someone would 'fix' the Cacodemon corpse sprite by making it a bit smaller. That would fix the issue of a dozen of Caco corpses impeding visibility in narrow passages. Sometimes you don't know when a enemy has turned a corner and is about to fire at you, it happened me twice in the last week. 100% agreed with this. I was doing some close-combat fighting against Cacodemons in BtSX last night and ate more fire than I'd like to because I couldn't see which ones were alive to dodge from.
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Jul 21, 2019 21:38
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Arivia posted:Apparently Nashgore is the better gore mod now, since it's actually written by someone who knows how to code. Here's Nash's updated version: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=62641
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Jul 21, 2019 22:41
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im thinking about dnf again lads
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Jul 22, 2019 00:01
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ETPC posted:im thinking about dnf again lads *kisses fingers* An excellent choice, monsieur.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:06
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dreaming about the phony dnf the original trailer promised.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:12
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they should have just stuck with quake or quake 2
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Jul 22, 2019 00:17
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something something dnf AAA game
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Jul 22, 2019 00:20
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ETPC posted:im thinking about dnf again lads I kinda still enjoy the Duke Burger stage though it really outstays its welcome.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:23
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ETPC posted:they should have just stuck with quake or quake 2 it's too bad the dude kept having a meltdown whenever a game got released with something new (mostly for the worse since FPS have got worse as a genre over time overall) and had to have it in DNF instead of just making a game.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:27
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's too bad the dude kept having a meltdown whenever a game got released with something new (mostly for the worse since FPS have got worse as a genre over time overall) and had to have it in DNF instead of just making a game. Sounds a bit like Star Citizen, except DNF at least had the decency to not con thousands of dollars out of the mentally ill. And also eventually released a full version I suppose.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:37
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the biggest sin was the 2003 reboot. they could have just cut dynamic lighting and shipped a fuckin killer game for 2004. but no.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:37
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDlB2P1leRM
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Jul 22, 2019 00:41
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Arivia posted:Apparently Nashgore is the better gore mod now, since it's actually written by someone who knows how to code. Wamdoodle posted:Here's Nash's updated version: It's a little harder to paint the walls with Nashgore, but afaik Nash isn't a nazi, so that helps I guess? Real fun either way.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:55
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Brutal Heretic RPG & Brutal Hexen RPG are also both good without going overboard.
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Jul 22, 2019 00:59
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ItBreathes posted:Nah, it's a confusing and not very fun level. The rest of the game is good though. Just remember if you use the level select you're taking the VidMaster's Oath. To say something nice about it, Ne Cede Malis is one of the prettiest and most atmospheric things to come from the 2.5d era. But yeah, I think it took 13 year old me *weeks* to beat it. It's a gorgeous but wildly confusing punch in the dick, which adequately sets the tone for the rest of the campaign for both good and bad.
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Jul 22, 2019 01:28
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ETPC posted:they should have just stuck with quake or quake 2 Yeah, agreed. The early Unreal stuff looked pretty good, but there's just something about the E3 1998 trailer that makes me really want to play it.
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Jul 22, 2019 01:45
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like, i understand why they switched (the lake mead level crashed the game) but JUST loving CUT THE LEVEL. also lake mead wasen't even in the final game!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jul 22, 2019 02:13
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Vakal posted:The first I ever ordered off of the internet back in the day was a box set of SiN, Heretic 2, and Battlezone 2. I wonder if the BZ2 modding community is still around. I remember checking around 2010-ish and there was a very small but dedicated modding scene kicking around. I remember playing some unofficial expac deal that added a third faction and a new campaign set after the events of the base game and it was pretty cool.
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Jul 22, 2019 02:44
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I was gonna just settle down with no sleep and three hours until I've gotta get up for work and play some vanilla Doom, but then I went down the WAD rabbit hole. Anyone got recommendations for big, expansive maps with lots of secrets and fun areas? I gave Avactor a try, and it's pretty fun, but I'm kinda poo poo at it. I think I might prefer more modern surroundings instead of the jungle.
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Jul 22, 2019 02:46
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I'm like 95% sure that I bought Heretic II at Blockbuster(?) in a cheap two-pack with Realms of the Haunting but I can't find any reference to these two games ever being bundled together and I don't remember Blockbuster ever selling PC games. Did I dream this absurd scenario but then somehow also end up with copies of both Heretic II and Realms of the Haunting?
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Jul 22, 2019 02:56
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Convex posted:Sounds a bit like Star Citizen, except DNF at least had the decency to not con thousands of dollars out of the mentally ill. And also eventually released a full version I suppose. There are a lot of parallels between Star Citizen and Duke Nukem Forever, yeah. Imagine if 3D Realms had kickstarter available at the time.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:07
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Arivia posted:Couldn't Strife be played in multiplayer? Insert name here posted:I wonder if the BZ2 modding community is still around. I remember checking around 2010-ish and there was a very small but dedicated modding scene kicking around. I remember playing some unofficial expac deal that added a third faction and a new campaign set after the events of the base game and it was pretty cool.
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Jul 22, 2019 04:04
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Was there ever a term for flying/driving games that basically play like first person shooters with strafing and such? It feels weird to call Descent/Quarentine/Battle Zone/Magic Carpet/etc 'sims' I guess it was just 'action'. I feel like there were a ton of those in the 90s but they dropped off pretty hard.
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Jul 22, 2019 04:26
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Insert name here posted:Oh hey I totally bought that box set too! Except I bought it for Battlezone 2 and kinda mostly ignored the other 2 games (I think I played through the first level of SiN and Heretic 2 before forgetting about them. I played through the remasters of both games recently and found BZ2 pretty rough around the edges. The combat in BZ1 is a lot tighter and feels a lot better. The follower AI might even be better. gently caress that expansion pack, though.
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FuzzySlippers posted:Was there ever a term for flying/driving games that basically play like first person shooters with strafing and such? It feels weird to call Descent/Quarentine/Battle Zone/Magic Carpet/etc 'sims' I guess it was just 'action'. I feel like there were a ton of those in the 90s but they dropped off pretty hard. I guess it's not a rigid enough genre with specific appeal to deserve a mass of catered games. But I sure would like an Armored Core game on the PC, I've not been able to play it since the PSX. Fallom posted:I played through the remasters of both games recently and found BZ2 pretty rough around the edges. The combat in BZ1 is a lot tighter and feels a lot better. The follower AI might even be better. gently caress that expansion pack, though.
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Jul 22, 2019 04:50
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Imagine if the Quake 2 DNF released in 1999 and an Unreal-based sequel came out in 2004? Maybe Duke Nukem wouldn't be a joke of an IP nowadays
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Jul 22, 2019 04:54
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BattleMaster posted:Imagine if the Quake 2 DNF released in 1999 and an Unreal-based sequel came out in 2004? Maybe Duke Nukem wouldn't be a joke of an IP nowadays It honestly probably would still be
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Jul 22, 2019 04:58
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it would have taken longer though and we would have had two solid games at the very least
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Jul 22, 2019 05:13
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ETPC posted:it would have taken longer though and we would have had two solid games at the very least I feel like two mediocre games with a hero whose attitude got more extreme as society moved away from what he was would have ended with him in the same space, roughly. More likely to get a failed numberless Duke Nukem reboot, though, thats for sure
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Jul 22, 2019 05:29
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Duke Nukem deserves a rest now. He's gotten old. Ion Fury is gonna do just fine honouring him 
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Dukes back, in smartphone trading card game format!
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