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Terrible Opinions posted:Something similar might have happened in Europe if not Mongol succession rules calling off any further invasion west. And hot drat I wish the Mongols had conquered Europe. 
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Tubgoat posted:And hot drat I wish the Mongols had conquered Europe.
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I guess I'd have to study the time period around there. ^ ^ ^ Oh I meant because Mongolians are way cooler than any Europeans, and have better music at minimum. Alternate history where the Mongols Manifest Destiny across Europe and the Beetles are a throat-singing band. 
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Are we ascribing luxury gay space communism to the Mongols now Cuz their ironic Nazis are far more violent than ours per capita believe it or not
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Things would have been different, and would probably have been better for the Native Americans, but a stable Mongol Empire would have definitely sucked big time for the Middle East and Europe for basically all the same reasons imperialism always sucks.
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Zeroisanumber posted:It was sort of like if a couple hundred soldiers with laser rifles teleported into Washington and wiped out our entire political class all at once and then went on to wiple out an entire army through terror and the power of unknowable weapons. designated survivor ben carson is sworn in as president and the invaders mysteriously stop showing up to kill everyone one day. carson thanks god for solving the problem, and directs the army core of engineers to build grain pyramids love how the guy on the left just showed up in regular clothes but rolled up his pants to fit in with the boot guys i did a dumb highschool video project where we signified that one of the characters in it was the bully by having him roll up one pant leg
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Zeroisanumber posted:My goon, I only know about 1/3rd of the story so I prolly shouldn't have commented at all. if it makes you feel better that's basically how it's taught in schools, for...some reason
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Hell yeah love the dude in the middle who stepped out of central casting complete with red laces
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cumshitter posted:designated survivor ben carson is sworn in as president and the invaders mysteriously stop showing up to kill everyone one day. carson thanks god for solving the problem, and directs the army core of engineers to build grain pyramids Sleepy Ben's sleepy alien overlords.
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you get red suspenders by wedgieing an antifa supersoldier and living to tell about it the nazi equivalent of counting coup
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cumshitter posted:you get red suspenders by wedgieing an antifa supersoldier and living to tell about it lol
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Terrible Opinions posted:Things would have been different, and would probably have been better for the Native Americans, but a stable Mongol Empire would have definitely sucked big time for the Middle East and Europe for basically all the same reasons imperialism always sucks. Eventually it would have collapsed as all empires do leaving the Native American tribes to create gay space communism. Sedisp has issued a correction as of 11:00 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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i used to get stoned and think about how surreal it would be to ride from inner mongolia to kiev and thought the mongols were super dope but honestly they were brutal shitfuckers even by 12th century standards i guess kublai was an enlightened despot or whatever but he has more blood on his hands than most 20th century fascist leaders except for you-know-who
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Alan Smithee posted:Are we ascribing luxury gay space communism to the Mongols now What kind of ethnic groups do they hate
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01011001 posted:if it makes you feel better that's basically how it's taught in schools, for...some reason I think a part of it is legit the assumption that native americans were just sort of hanging out doing nothing in particular, then the Spanish rolled in and history started happening. The idea that the Aztecs were part of a long series of local empires rising and falling, doing typical societal and political things gives them too much agency and normalcy. A pocahontas-style noble savage mythos keeps them vaguely sympathetic and harmless and precludes a closer examination.
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Kurtofan posted:What kind of ethnic groups do they hate Han Chinese and/or Russians, depends on the exact group we're talking about here.
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I remember getting into a several page argument on these dead gay forums with a guy who's point was, "The mongols were good actually, and people only disagree because racism." Apparently Mongol apologia is really big in historical circles these days.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Hell yeah love the dude in the middle who stepped out of central casting complete with red laces guy looks like if racism made a character in city of heroes
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Jul 22, 2019 07:29
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"mountains of skulls are good, actually, and let me tell you why..."
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uber_stoat posted:"mountains of skulls are good, actually, and let me tell you why..." Wasn't that Tamerlane?
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Haven't got round to watching the last couple of season yet. Now I'm looking forward to it even more.
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Zwabu posted:So what's this guy up to now, and what's he been doing in the fifteen years since this? Is he still alive? There are too many "Sean Kennedys" that come up in searches to dig around for this guy. he's writing sci-fi/cyberpunk and diving. The really interesting thing he was associated with was https://h2g2.com/entry/A3634058 KULT. Enjoy!
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Samovar posted:Wasn't that Tamerlane? He's hardly the only one.
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Eox posted:it was somehow a lot more comforting to think that the scouring of central america was a planned thing by monsters rather than a lucky break for a handful of dipshits who were also monsters the winning side throughout history is nothing more than a handful of dipshits getting lucky also all of humanity are monsters
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Agean90 posted:So did the imperial Japanese army So did the US military in WW2 and beyond - up to at least the 1970s for Air Force long haul flights. Imagine a B-52 on SAC patrol loaded up with nukes in the bomb bay and crank in the crew. It was available on a volunteer basis to Air Force pilots in Desert loving Storm. 
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Six tablets. Only take one though!
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As far as I know it's still available to US Air Force pilots who are on long flights.
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Kung Food posted:I remember getting into a several page argument on these dead gay forums with a guy who's point was, "The mongols were good actually, and people only disagree because racism." Apparently Mongol apologia is really big in historical circles these days. I'm also seeing a lot of appreciation for Mongolian folk metal (which admittedly sounds awesome as hell), and nobody but me seems to have looked up the translation of the disturbingly nationalist quasi-fascist lyrics. Zeroisanumber posted:As far as I know it's still available to US Air Force pilots who are on long flights. Did't know this, yikes. If it's anything like the Navy/USMC, the addiction treatment program is shameful in more ways than one. Lemniscate Blue has issued a correction as of 15:08 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:As far as I know it's still available to US Air Force pilots who are on long flights. I think they use anti-narcolepsy drugs for that, or at least in addition to, because instead of ramping you up they just magically make all sleepiness go away for awhile
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Kung Food posted:I remember getting into a several page argument on these dead gay forums with a guy who's point was, "The mongols were good actually, and people only disagree because racism." Apparently Mongol apologia is really big in historical circles these days. They killed so many people that the Earth went through a cooling cycle. Just a massive, massive slaughter.
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Zeroisanumber posted:They killed so many people that the Earth went through a cooling cycle. Just a massive, massive slaughter. these mongols sound like just thing thing humanity needs tbqh
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Gringostar posted:these mongols sound like just thing thing humanity needs tbqh It's all fun and games until they're burning down your farm and adding your skull to the skull pyramid.
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you can stay on the farm if you want, im practicing my horse archery
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Thanos Khan
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yeah military pilots 100% still use pills
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baseball players used to pop "greenies" to get through the long season.
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Zeroisanumber posted:It's all fun and games until they're burning down your farm and adding your skull to the skull pyramid. are you saying humanity doesn't deserve that fate? 
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