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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

there's a post-hardcore band called Rival Schools who's first album was titled United By Fate in case you were still wondering if they were doing it on purpose

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EndOfTheWorld
Jul 22, 2004

I'm an excellent critic! I automatically know when someone's done a bad job. Before you ask, yes it's a mixed blessing.
Cybernetic Crumb
The Nick Knacks animation episode I'm most eagerly awaiting is Spartakus and The Sun Beneath The Sea - a really odd French action cartoon that I remember watching a lot of when I was small but barely anything about it.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I gotta say that 70s-looking French anime has left a deep impression on me from the Mysterious Cities of Gold weir sing me out as a kid. I’m really looking forward to that one and want to see Spartakus now.

I AM GRANDO fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Jul 22, 2019

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


I saw the lion king remake yesterday
it was really bad

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Alaois posted:

there's a post-hardcore band called Rival Schools who's first album was titled United By Fate in case you were still wondering if they were doing it on purpose

Their guitarist should be dressed like a baseballer and be 100% angry 100% of the time

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Augus posted:

I saw the lion king remake yesterday
it was really bad

didnt they ruin scar a ton? like instead of some bitter fop who wants to rule, he is just some weird incel and Chiwetel Ejiofor is kinda bored sounding.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt they ruin scar a ton? like instead of some bitter fop who wants to rule, he is just some weird incel and Chiwetel Ejiofor is kinda bored sounding.

They butchered Be Prepared so badly it’s incredible

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
No more nazi hyenas or Jim Cummings doing a flawless Jeremy Irons impersonation was going to make it bad regardless of quality

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Augus posted:

They butchered Be Prepared so badly it’s incredible

what i heard he just kinda shows up to them and they just follow him. at least in the old one, you can kinda view him as fascist, throwing literal meat to the to the hosed over underclass to get them to rebel and then throw them under the bus when his life is on the line and then gets torn apart by the people he hosed over.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

he isnt wrong espcially about the faux wokeness, but some of that seems like pretty deep pulls(they arnt wrong but idk)

EndOfTheWorld
Jul 22, 2004

I'm an excellent critic! I automatically know when someone's done a bad job. Before you ask, yes it's a mixed blessing.
Cybernetic Crumb

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I gotta say that 70s-looking French anime has left a deep impression on me from the Mysterious Cities of Gold weir sing me out as a kid. I’m really looking forward to that one and want to see Spartakus now.

The theme song of the Pirates in Spartakus is a banger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBoWD5E3hYQ

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Augus posted:

I saw the lion king remake yesterday
it was really bad

Did the death scene play out like how I thought it would?

Mufasa: I'm dying, son :|

Simba: :|

stratofarius
May 17, 2019

Dapper_Swindler posted:

he isnt wrong espcially about the faux wokeness, but some of that seems like pretty deep pulls(they arnt wrong but idk)

He's not wrong, but I feel like there's an alternate angle to all of this, and that angle is 'Bob Iger is a protege of Michael Eisner and is really obsessed with keeping the integrity of his brand which in this case means making as many remakes as possible'.

On the subject of Nick Knacks, is it only covering early Nick or are there plans to keep it going all throughout Nick history? I really like this series and that channel as a whole.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

stratofarius posted:

He's not wrong, but I feel like there's an alternate angle to all of this, and that angle is 'Bob Iger is a protege of Michael Eisner and is really obsessed with keeping the integrity of his brand which in this case means making as many remakes as possible'.

On the subject of Nick Knacks, is it only covering early Nick or are there plans to keep it going all throughout Nick history? I really like this series and that channel as a whole.

i mean i think he also relizes hard on just "they are doing it because late capitalism" which is true but idk. . also i kinda wish he would give some ideas of solutions other than the usual "do it your self, i am just a lecturer" in the comments. i don't know. he just kinda rubs me the wrong way with tone or something and i don't even think he is wrong at all, least not really. i guess its because i have had professors like him and they sucked rear end. like i don't like capitalism but i don't think every millionare is evil and while he is arguing from systemic point, he isn't really. idk. i am loving terrible in expounding in writing. i guess i feel like he can't see the trees through the forest.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jul 22, 2019

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

I noticed he complains a lot about how the new films fail to criticize capitalism, but is that really something they were attempting? I know Disney has made some statements about how they were being progressive with the gay Lefou thing and so on, but I don’t recall them ever promising to attack capitalism specifically, so why expect them to?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean i think he also relizes hard on just "they are doing it because late capitalism" which is true but idk. . also i kinda wish he would give some ideas of solutions other than the usual "do it your self, i am just a lecturer" in the comments. i don't know. he just kinda rubs me the wrong way with tone or something and i don't even think he is wrong at all, least not really. i guess its because i have had professors like him and they sucked rear end. like i don't like capitalism but i don't think every millionare is evil and while he is arguing from systemic point, he isn't really. idk. i am loving terrible in expounding in writing. i guess i feel like he can't see the trees through the forest.

That comment came across as pointlessly smug to me. Obviously he’s not going to be able to respond to every comment and he’s not obligated to respond to any of them, but if he’s going to put his opinions out there for the public to listen to he should at least be prepared for people to offer their own.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Bakeneko posted:

I noticed he complains a lot about how the new films fail to criticize capitalism, but is that really something they were attempting? I know Disney has made some statements about how they were being progressive with the gay Lefou thing and so on, but I don’t recall them ever promising to attack capitalism specifically, so why expect them to?


That comment came across as pointlessly smug to me. Obviously he’s not going to be able to respond to every comment and he’s not obligated to respond to any of them, but if he’s going to put his opinions out there for the public to listen to he should at least be prepared for people to offer their own.

yeah like what exactly is he looking for. like yeah disney isn't gonna make a pro socialist film or one that tears themselves a new rear end in a top hat. my argument would be "late stage capitalism commodities everything and one of the easiest ideals to comidify is nostalgia. so they are gonna try to milke every dime from boomers and millennials meanwhile doing dumb jokes at their expense"

also yeah

quote:

Please don't write a comment that amounts to "Debate me!" and especially don't write multiple comments to spam my section. If you can't imagine a world without capitalism, that's called Capitalist Realism. If you want to know more, read the book of the same name. If you want to know more about what the world could be like post-capitalism, Google "post-capitalism" and start there. I'm an educator and a former classroom teacher. That means I'm a lecturer, not an individual tutor. If your comment is "Oh yeah? Then what do YOU think we should do?" then you're probably not asking in good faith because if you wanted to learn, there are infinite resources at your disposal outside a comments section. If you ask it that way, what you really want is (specifically) me to perform for you.

like yeah, he comes off as smug prick. like yeah gently caress the bad faith actors but a real educator does help you out by giving you ideas of what can be done better and how to fix it or at least ides, thats the nature of criticism, its not just "thing bad" but in a macro sense.

what sucks is some of his other essays are alright even good but he definitely views everything in macro sense, which isnt always helpful. like yeah systems are alot of the problem but bad individuals are too and those people make the system worse or better. I don't know why i am so irritated by this video. I am starting to wonder if his teaching style is part of the reason he is "former" teacher.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 23, 2019

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

stratofarius posted:

He's not wrong, but I feel like there's an alternate angle to all of this, and that angle is 'Bob Iger is a protege of Michael Eisner and is really obsessed with keeping the integrity of his brand which in this case means making as many remakes as possible'.

On the subject of Nick Knacks, is it only covering early Nick or are there plans to keep it going all throughout Nick history? I really like this series and that channel as a whole.

afaik poparena is planning on going the whole way

hopefully the animation coverage will get his stuff more attention; dude deserves it

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



dmboogie posted:

afaik poparena is planning on going the whole way

hopefully the animation coverage will get his stuff more attention; dude deserves it

i expect double dare to be a major bump to his viewership and subscriber numbers, and 1991 to be a significantly larger bump than double dare.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!

Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt they ruin scar a ton? like instead of some bitter fop who wants to rule, he is just some weird incel and Chiwetel Ejiofor is kinda bored sounding.

Armchair Auteur said Ejiofor's performance was the only good part of the movie.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

really, the clips i saw didnt show that, but thats just me.

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.

Bakeneko posted:

I don’t recall them ever promising to attack capitalism specifically, so why expect them to?

I don't think he's expecting them to at all - he's illustrating a point about their intentions. To the uncritical eye, having a villain be a rich rear end in a top hat might seem like a critique of capitalism, but looking closer it's clear that this is undercut by things like the "nice millionaire" characters he used as an example. Disney wants to both be a mega-conglomerate hoovering up other media companies AND a beloved family brand that can do no wrong, so they use deceptive tactics in their media to keep the gravy train rolling.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

EndOfTheWorld posted:

The Nick Knacks animation episode I'm most eagerly awaiting is Spartakus and The Sun Beneath The Sea - a really odd French action cartoon that I remember watching a lot of when I was small but barely anything about it.

I think in my child's brain I have confused it with The Lost Cities of Gold so I'm looking forward to seeing Pop Arena separate my memories into the appropriate shows.

dmboogie posted:

afaik poparena is planning on going the whole way

hopefully the animation coverage will get his stuff more attention; dude deserves it

Man, Spongebob might still be going by the time they get to it.

I would feel bad that they'd eventually have to cover Johnny Test, but happily it turns out it was never on Nick.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt they ruin scar a ton? like instead of some bitter fop who wants to rule, he is just some weird incel and Chiwetel Ejiofor is kinda bored sounding.
I imagine they’d remove every last drop of queer coding from Scar just because Disney plays that poo poo ridiculously safe.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Alaois posted:

there's a post-hardcore band called Rival Schools who's first album was titled United By Fate in case you were still wondering if they were doing it on purpose

It seems like there's quite a few Japanese games that have titles or elements that reference, allude to, or coincide with US/UK bands. With visual novels, you have Clannad (which is also the name of 70s Irish band), and Bible Black (which comes from King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black). There's a NES game called Holy Diver, after the Ronnie James Dio song. The Game Gear version of Double Dragon has a boss that references members from the band from Skid Row (though I think that one wasn't developed in Japan).

I know there's more, but I can't think of them right now.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Max Wilco posted:

It seems like there's quite a few Japanese games that have titles or elements that reference, allude to, or coincide with US/UK bands. With visual novels, you have Clannad (which is also the name of 70s Irish band), and Bible Black (which comes from King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black). There's a NES game called Holy Diver, after the Ronnie James Dio song. The Game Gear version of Double Dragon has a boss that references members from the band from Skid Row (though I think that one wasn't developed in Japan).

I know there's more, but I can't think of them right now.

The band Rival Schools was formed long after the N64 had come out, so it's pretty clear that the band was named after the game and not the other way around.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Inco posted:

The band Rival Schools was formed long after the N64 had come out, so it's pretty clear that the band was named after the game and not the other way around.

Oh. :doh:

Well in that case, I know there's a couple other music groups that have names based off video games, but again, I can't think of any off the top of my head, and I dunno how many of those are that prominent.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pants Donkey posted:

I imagine they’d remove every last drop of queer coding from Scar just because Disney plays that poo poo ridiculously safe.

that sucks, because scar being a sneering bitter rear end in a top hat who is also a a giant fop is probably the best thing about him. then again, i havent seen the original in years.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I don't like capitalism but I don't think every millionare is evil

They are, being a million billion gajillionaire is innately immoral even in the best situations, much less the trash fire that is the US.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Behind every great fortune is a great crime.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Max Wilco posted:

It seems like there's quite a few Japanese games that have titles or elements that reference, allude to, or coincide with US/UK bands. With visual novels, you have Clannad (which is also the name of 70s Irish band), and Bible Black (which comes from King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black). There's a NES game called Holy Diver, after the Ronnie James Dio song. The Game Gear version of Double Dragon has a boss that references members from the band from Skid Row (though I think that one wasn't developed in Japan).

I know there's more, but I can't think of them right now.

Then there's JoJo's Bizarre Adventure...

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe
Always looking for an excuse to post this.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Detective No. 27 posted:

Then there's JoJo's Bizarre Adventure...

I was going to mention JoJo, but that seemed like cheating.


I dunno if that counts or not, since the Guns'N'Roses name changes was on the part of the localization team (specifically by Alyson Court, the voice of Cuh-lee-are Claire from the original version of Resident Evil 2).

Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jul 23, 2019

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Ogre Battle: Marche of the Black Queen

Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p-5CgWP7Iw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoBMhx_ap_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge18n2JCwBs

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Ogre Battle: Fat Bottomed Girls. Do it Square!

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Queen II and A Kind of Magic are their two finest albums.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

:aaa: I always though Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre was a weird name.

Now it makes sense.


Leal posted:

Ogre Battle: Fat Bottomed Girls. Do it Square!

I think people would just be happy with another Ogre Battle game regardless, but :yeah:

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

Leal posted:

Ogre Battle: Fat Bottomed Girls. Do it Square!

Akihiko Yoshida did the concept art for LUCT so its more likely than you think! :v:

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Max Wilco posted:

It seems like there's quite a few Japanese games that have titles or elements that reference, allude to, or coincide with US/UK bands. With visual novels, you have Clannad (which is also the name of 70s Irish band), and Bible Black (which comes from King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black). There's a NES game called Holy Diver, after the Ronnie James Dio song. The Game Gear version of Double Dragon has a boss that references members from the band from Skid Row (though I think that one wasn't developed in Japan).

I know there's more, but I can't think of them right now.

my favorite was finding out that reznor from super mario world wasn't just a coincidence and was in fact named for trent reznor. even better when you consider that pretty hate machine was the only album he'd recorded at that point.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

my favorite was finding out that reznor from super mario world wasn't just a coincidence and was in fact named for trent reznor. even better when you consider that pretty hate machine was the only album he'd recorded at that point.

one of the koopalings is named after Wendy O. Williams

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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Bullet Bill
Torpedo Ted

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