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Meridian posted:Dune ended at God Emperor.
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Ah yes, extreme gentlemen of the internet, please deign to elaborate in precise detail what makes Denis Villanueve's directorial body of work dull and routine in tyool twothousandnineteen, known otherwise as the 10 year anniversary of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:33
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If your argument fails to convince a previously acknowledged doongoon collective then I call upon this legislative body to proclaim the use of the term hack, as directed toward anyone itt other than @duneauthor or KJA, heretofore probatable.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:33
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https://twitter.com/DankDuneMemes/status/939197461427642373?s=20 https://twitter.com/DankDuneMemes/status/931283050389962752?s=20
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Jul 23, 2019 06:46
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:If your argument fails to convince a previously acknowledged doongoon collective then I call upon this legislative body to proclaim the use of the term hack, as directed toward anyone itt other than @duneauthor or KJA, heretofore probatable.  Also it is funny how the original Sicario is decidedly non-chuddy but the sequel goes full chud, perhaps the director of the first has the artistic ability to wrangle the writer of both film's chud-vision into a critique of the drug war and beyond whereas the director of the second is, oh I dunno, a complete hack-fraud
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Jul 23, 2019 07:26
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Arrival sucked rear end. That's all I have to say about that.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:30
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Sicario 2 was brought into existence by certain assholes in Hollywood associated with the DoD, of which there are many. It is strictly propaganda.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:49
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Meridian posted:Arrival sucked rear end. That's all I have to say about that. It's easily his worst film but I'd still give it a 4/5 without hesitation, and perhaps bonus cred for starring Amy Adams and being based on an unfilmable story.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:51
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Lots of people feel personally insulted by the criticism aimed at Villeneuve ITT. Most of his work is technically competent but devoid of artistic merit and societally irrelevant. Aside from Sicario, that one was vile. If you like or enjoy his movies, that’s ok. I had a good time watching Captain Marvel. I still think it was worthless crap. Your media preferences shouldn’t affect your sense of self-worth, although not understanding art does make you a philistine. Namaste.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:20
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Lots of people feel personally insulted by the criticism aimed at Villeneuve ITT. Most of his work is technically competent but devoid of artistic merit and societally irrelevant. Aside from Sicario, that one was vile. If you like or enjoy his movies, that’s ok. I had a good time watching Captain Marvel. I still think it was worthless crap. Your media preferences shouldn’t affect your sense of self-worth, although not understanding art does make you a philistine. Namaste. You don’t understand movies, it’s ok
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Jul 23, 2019 12:22
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Sicario 2 was brought into existence by certain assholes in Hollywood associated with the DoD, of which there are many. It is strictly propaganda. It's propaganda that the CIA would attempt to murder one of its own operatives because he refuses to murder a child? Well, okay. It's propaganda that the Federal government would decide to start a war in Mexico and then abruptly decide to backstab and run as soon as the original stance became politically inconvenient? The second one is just as much of a critique of short-sighted military interventionism as the first one was a critique of the drug war. I mean, it's propaganda, but it's not propaganda in which America is the good guys.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:27
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Villeneuve makes good movies. Chapterhouse and Children of Dune are the worst of the Frank Herbert 6. Heretics is better than God Emperor. thatfatkid fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jul 23, 2019 |
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Jul 23, 2019 13:22
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thatfatkid posted:Villeneuve makes good movies. I found my paperback copy of Children of Dune; not remembering the last time I read it. I had put it away with a bookmark somewhere in the middle.
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Jul 23, 2019 13:37
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Phanatic posted:It's propaganda that the CIA would attempt to murder one of its own operatives because he refuses to murder a child? Well, okay. It's propaganda that the Federal government would decide to start a war in Mexico and then abruptly decide to backstab and run as soon as the original stance became politically inconvenient? Are you aware of the general history of US counterinsurgency policy, and the ideological shenanigans that are pulled within media in order to normalize the mindset for the general public? The only reason the first movie didn't end up being some boilerplate action spectacle is because Villanueve seemed intent on quietly subverting that theme with something far more morally self-searching, and the rest of his work as a writer/director reflects said qualities. As is quite obvious now Taylor Sheridan was unable to keep the (frankly unnecessary) sequel on the rails alone. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jul 23, 2019 |
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Jul 23, 2019 19:43
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Stop arguing about films fuckers, I just got a copy of the folio edition Dune and it's niiiice.
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Jul 23, 2019 23:25
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Stop arguing about films fuckers, I just got a copy of the folio edition Dune and it's niiiice. 
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Jul 23, 2019 23:31
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I know this is 200+ pages of laughing at Frank Herbert's charlatan son, and so has probably been posted many, many times before, but I was reading the Wikipedia page for Melange last night, and found out about ultraspice. Ultraspice. loving lmao
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Jul 23, 2019 23:32
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Stop arguing about films fuckers, I just got a copy of the folio edition Dune and it's niiiice. Reminder that purchase of Dune material with a first-sale date after Frank’s death is direct subsidization of the failson usurper, hth?
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Jul 23, 2019 23:33
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Lots of people feel personally insulted by the criticism aimed at Villeneuve ITT. Most of his work is technically competent but devoid of artistic merit and societally irrelevant. Aside from Sicario, that one was vile. If you like or enjoy his movies, that’s ok. I had a good time watching Captain Marvel. I still think it was worthless crap. Your media preferences shouldn’t affect your sense of self-worth, although not understanding art does make you a philistine. Namaste. Are you wearing a black beret while holding a wine glass on your hand because 
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Jul 23, 2019 23:34
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Bardeh posted:I know this is 200+ pages of laughing at Frank Herbert's charlatan son, and so has probably been posted many, many times before, but I was reading the Wikipedia page for Melange last night, and found out about ultraspice. 
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Jul 23, 2019 23:38
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Schadenboner posted:Reminder that purchase of Dune material with a first-sale date after Frank’s death is direct subsidization of the failson usurper, hth? Honestly if you're not doing what his parents should have done, you are complicit. Breathing the same air as the Failson dirties us all.
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Jul 24, 2019 00:47
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Stop arguing about films fuckers, I just got a copy of the folio edition Dune and it's niiiice. Working on getting mine. Anticipation is growing.
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Jul 24, 2019 01:00
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Sonic the Hedgehog sez: the only form of ethical consumption under capitalism is avoiding giving Brian Herbert and Kevin James Anderson money.
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Jul 24, 2019 02:17
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Are there any instances in literature where an heir has taken the mantle of their parent's work and done it justice? Or is it failsons abounds?
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Jul 24, 2019 02:42
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"Powindah dirt" Master Scytale sneeringly sneered while looking at his elfin figure that sneered with sneering sharp teeth.
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Jul 24, 2019 02:55
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Mister Speaker posted:Are there any instances in literature where an heir has taken the mantle of their parent's work and done it justice? Or is it failsons abounds?
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Jul 24, 2019 02:56
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Pimblor posted:"Powindah dirt" Master Scytale sneeringly sneered while looking at his elfin figure that sneered with sneering sharp teeth. Not enough whores Mister Speaker posted:Are there any instances in literature where an heir has taken the mantle of their parent's work and done it justice? Or is it failsons abounds? Chris Tolkien did JRRT’s work justice by spending 40 years methodically arranging and pedantically dissecting everything he ever scribbled down
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Jul 24, 2019 02:57
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Mister Speaker posted:Are there any instances in literature where an heir has taken the mantle of their parent's work and done it justice? Or is it failsons abounds? Nothing comes to mind. Christopher Tolkien was at least a very respectful and good curator. By definition writing (and art in general) requires talent, creativity, and skill. Nepotism, exposure, and shitloads of cash aren’t enough to ensure success, like they are in so many other industries like hollywood, music, business, politics, etc. Sure, failsons can ride coattails and make money, I guess. But your writing is your writing, there for everyone to see (and make fun and ignore when it sucks). Of course, a certain level of genius in a parent guarantees motivation and production in a child, and also interest regardless of talent (see Picasso, Lennon, etc.) but writing requires more sustained effort than just taking music other people wrote and looking good while strumming a guitar or yelling into a microphone.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:03
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Mister Speaker posted:Are there any instances in literature where an heir has taken the mantle of their parent's work and done it justice? Or is it failsons abounds? Martin Amis has, to some, surpassed his father Kingsley, but yeah it's a pretty rare scenario to begin with.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:08
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So I remember finding the original Dune novel pretty fascinating years back (mainly because of a the crazy worldbuilding stuff, I think), but when I got Dune Messiah and and Children of Dune from a Goodwill a year or so back and tried to start reading them, I found the writing to be offputtingly dry and stilted right off the bat. I'm honestly curious if these books still have enough crazy sci-fi concept stuff like the original to make it worth putting up with awkward character writing or what.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:18
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Nicolas Cage is Coppola's nephew or something but I know not everyone recognizes him as America's greatest living actor.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:19
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Mister Speaker posted:Are there any instances in literature where an heir has taken the mantle of their parent's work and done it justice? Or is it failsons abounds? The Waughs, Kingsley/Martin Amis, Steinbeck had a few writer sons, also lol stephen king
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Jul 24, 2019 03:22
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Doctor Bishop posted:So I remember finding the original Dune novel pretty fascinating years back (mainly because of a the crazy worldbuilding stuff, I think), but when I got Dune Messiah and and Children of Dune from a Goodwill a year or so back and tried to start reading them, I found the writing to be offputtingly dry and stilted right off the bat. I'm honestly curious if these books still have enough crazy sci-fi concept stuff like the original to make it worth putting up with awkward character writing or what. Definitely read Messiah. Its short and my favorite of all the books. Paul reaches levels of badassery previously unknown to me in any work of fiction. Children is ehhhhh
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Jul 24, 2019 03:24
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Nothing comes to mind. Christopher Tolkien was at least a very respectful and good curator. Brian Herbert got where he is because he runs the Frank Herbert estate and publishers know the Dune brand (ugh) is a profitable one. He traded in on that cachet to get his failson fan fiction published, and even then he had to bring in a hack writer to do the heavy lifting. The guy doesn't appear to have an original bone in his body, and if he was anyone else he'd be languishing in obscurity.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:29
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Stephen King's son's stuff is pretty well regarded. he also looks like a clone of his dad. also, I didn't know Brian was so old. he won't he around to gently caress with Dune for too much longer I expect. shoulda stayed in his lane. https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/730855695986216960?s=20 uber_stoat fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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Jul 24, 2019 03:34
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Doctor Bishop posted:So I remember finding the original Dune novel pretty fascinating years back (mainly because of a the crazy worldbuilding stuff, I think), but when I got Dune Messiah and and Children of Dune from a Goodwill a year or so back and tried to start reading them, I found the writing to be offputtingly dry and stilted right off the bat. I'm honestly curious if these books still have enough crazy sci-fi concept stuff like the original to make it worth putting up with awkward character writing or what. Read Messiah. It's an excellent coda for the original characters. Only read Children if you're interested in reading God Emperor at some point. Read the books in twos, because that's how they relate to each other.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:40
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"I want to be a writer like Papa!" Brian said. And so he wrote(?) not one, but two dad joke booklets.
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Jul 24, 2019 08:20
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My prescience let me see the way ahead: yes I know that tweet is older than my post just let me have this godamn you I also saw that this terrible purpose lay within my own cat! 
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Jul 24, 2019 08:32
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And how can this be? Because it is the Kwisats Catarach!
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Just popping in to say that, in keeping with my theme of naming data volumes after spacecraft, my newly-completed RAID5 backups are named 'Guild Heighliner' A & B.
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