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I know it's been pointed out, but I love how off the rails the simulation has gotten. None of this is relavent to Lyndon's eventual death. For the predicted death to even be slightly accurate, people must now actively prevent the simulation from ending.
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So, assuming Lyndon manages to die in the simulation and make it back to his body with choice bits of foreknowledge, he should convincingly claim that he didn't see a vision of the future. That way, he still gets captured, but his foes think they're still in the simulation. Armed with the right foreknowledge, Lyndon can subsequently escape. Edit: Holy poo poo, Lyndon's method of magic is to memorize spells, and nothing he does in the simulation causes actual harm. maltesh fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jul 19, 2019 |
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maltesh posted:So, assuming Lyndon manages to die in the simulation and make it back to his body with choice bits of foreknowledge, he should convincingly claim that he didn't see a vision of the future. The ambassador touched it to check, he'll probably do it again.
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maltesh posted:Edit: Holy poo poo, Lyndon's method of magic is to memorize spells, and nothing he does in the simulation causes actual harm. True, but it wouldn't be an accurate simulation if it did not simulate him losing his magic once he caused simulated harm.
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Lyndon and Audrey really getting back into the swing of their relationship 
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Heliotrope posted:The ambassador touched it to check, he'll probably do it again. how could the ambassador tell that he wasnt currently in his own simulation? Drunk Theory posted:True, but it wouldn't be an accurate simulation if it did not simulate him losing his magic once he caused simulated harm. and he wouldnt remember the entire simulation after he dies, only the last few moments
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violent sex idiot posted:how could the ambassador tell that he wasnt currently in his own simulation? He couldnt but he'd relay information back to his real self.
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If someone touched the scepter without receiving a vision before you touch it and also don't receive a vision, you're in that person's simulation. Idea: If two parties know how the scepter works, one can trick the other by pretending not to receive a vision. Though the other party might get their hands on it to confirm, it'll throw off the accuracy of their simulation.
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Dr Christmas posted:If someone touched the scepter without receiving a vision before you touch it and also don't receive a vision, you're in that person's simulation. If person A touches the scepter at time 1 and has no vision, it could mean that they’re in someone else’s vision, or it could mean that they just started their own vision If person B sees person A touch the scepter and claim that they have no vision, then they touch the scepter at time 2 and have no vision, it could mean that they’re in person A’s vision... or it could mean that person C touched the scepter at time 0, unknown to both A and B, and they’re both in that vision. As long as you have the thing you have to guard it to prevent this kind of confusion.
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Man now I'm wondering what that ghost baboon went through when Audrey used the Sceptre as a mallet.
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Jul 20, 2019 06:05
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Permanently mind-altering psychological trauma for one
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Synthbuttrange posted:Man now I'm wondering what that ghost baboon went through when Audrey used the Sceptre as a mallet. It becomes even more horrifying when you consider that this is a powerful supernatural creature: Whatever managed to kill it must have been something REALLY nasty.
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(simulation lasts until the baboon is torn apart in the event horizon of a black hole)
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Synthbuttrange posted:(simulation lasts until the baboon is torn apart in the event horizon of a black hole) Given the limited size of the simulated universe, it'd have to be created. Then again, this is a Thorsby comic, so sooner or later someone's going to accidentally create one.
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399 And now we get to play the game of trying to think of ways to avoid traps for pacifism magic. I wonder if the whole building is just nothing but rooms of hanging snakes.
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rip all those snakes
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Man I hope nobody in that building is irrationally afraid of snakes.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:If person B sees person A touch the scepter and claim that they have no vision, then they touch the scepter at time 2 and have no vision, it could mean that they’re in person A’s vision... or it could mean that person C touched the scepter at time 0, unknown to both A and B, and they’re both in that vision. Person B starting their own simulation is still a possibility here. There’s no rule that you have to blurt out your vision to everyone in the room and signal a completed simulation.
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Synthbuttrange posted:rip all those snakes Yeah somewhere there's a bulk discount snake merchant who wouldn't be happy about this.
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Dinosaurs! posted:Person B starting their own simulation is still a possibility here. There’s no rule that you have to blurt out your vision to everyone in the room and signal a completed simulation. You do still feel the pain of your vision's death, though. So you'd need some nerves of steel to not react at all. Also, that staircase in the first panel is hurting my head. Is it going up another floor, or just into the ceiling? Where's the landing? Or do you just step sideways off of it to get to this floor?
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HebrewMagic posted:Those last two panels are comedic gold. Audrey peeking out at the gored snake is amazing
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I wonder if pacifism magic works like plausible deniability magic did, where you get a chance to keep your spells by arguing that you didn't really do any harm.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS8OawQegYE
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:I wonder if pacifism magic works like plausible deniability magic did, where you get a chance to keep your spells by arguing that you didn't really do any harm. Plausible deniability magic relies on convincing other people and pacifism magic relies on convincing yourself, Lyndon's a natural at it because he's an unreflective moron.
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I like to think there was a Snakes on a Plane scene where the various baddies were gathered together discussing how best to entrap Lyndon and the ambassador was waving his arms around and angrily insisting that it just HAD to be snakes, there was NO other way.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Plausible deniability magic relies on convincing other people and pacifism magic relies on convincing yourself, Lyndon's a natural at it because he's an unreflective moron. This actually made me realize something interesting: in every case we've seen (unless I'm missing something), Lyndon (and in one case, the Mind Mugger) personally witnessed his spells causing harm. The only exception is the gravity-altering spell; he didn't see the spell cause the creature's death, but he knew (and stated) that it would cause the creature to die quite soon. So it's possible that pacifist mages only lose their spells if they realize, or believe, that their spells have caused direct harm. ...but it would be kind of weird if no one had figured that out yet.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Plausible deniability magic relies on convincing other people and pacifism magic relies on convincing yourself, Lyndon's a natural at it because he's an unreflective moron. How about diplomatic immunity magic?
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Comic Four Hundred Personally, I'm stumped.
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The Snout Elf is probably a rival pacifism mage. No idea about the ineloquent one.
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Wonderful. I wonder if they thread can work out how Lyndon can unintentionally harm these two.
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Making sure things are as weird as possible around Lyndon when/if he dies, and the one spouting nonsense will help with that, seems to be the plan.
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uvar posted:Comic Four Hundred They're both deathly allergic to bananas. Unlikely to pay off as a countermeasure to Lyndon, but neutralizing him is worth the extra effort.
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uvar posted:Comic Four Hundred These two were hired to bring an Impossible One to the castle and take care of it (edit: hence, "catch and feed!"). It's in the next room, kept in pitch darkness. Lyndon goes in, casts his light spell, and sees the Impossible One, killing it. Otherkinsey Scale fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:These two were hired to bring an Impossible One to the castle and take care of it (edit: hence, "catch and feed!").
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Also the primary Impossible One prominently featured a pipe.
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:These two were hired to bring an Impossible One to the castle and take care of it (edit: hence, "catch and feed!"). Looks like you called it!
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Everything's been laid out - more information than we ourselves needed. This leaves the big question: Is Lyndon Painatorium going to gently caress up?
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yes but Audrey will pull his rear end out of the fire like always
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Preemptive “Lyndon you doofus”
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