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Roth
Jul 9, 2016

site posted:

he posted about lesbians needing to get hosed by men, and his response to getting outted was posting """""not"""""-loli so like

It goes even deeper than that. He was an admin on a booru site dedicated to hosting porn of lesbians being hosed by men.

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Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
When did Clark get un-kidnapped? I missed it

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Nevvy Z posted:

When did Clark get un-kidnapped? I missed it

The exact same comic he got kidnapped in, dude.

frameset
Apr 13, 2008

Nevvy Z posted:

When did Clark get un-kidnapped? I missed it

Did you not read the conclusion of Leviathan Rising? There's three mini stories, then a conclusion that (sort of) ties them together.

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~

Rhyno posted:

I do miss trying to come up with new variations on mocking his name.

mentally I went with "dank titty memes" tbh

Content: of all things, the chapter titles in Justice League Dark had a really nice feel to them, for me. A bit of an uncommon thing to note, but hey, I like me some typography.

The man called M
Dec 25, 2009

THUNDERDOME ULTRALOSER
2022



My apologies for not following, but I heard that Grant Morrison's run on Green Lantern is complete crap. Any reason why?

Scuba Trooper
Feb 25, 2006

I’ll admit I haven’t read much, but I’ve liked all I’ve seen. Where’d you hear that it sucks?

The man called M
Dec 25, 2009

THUNDERDOME ULTRALOSER
2022



hup posted:

I’ll admit I haven’t read much, but I’ve liked all I’ve seen. Where’d you hear that it sucks?

Mostly from the Comicstorian complaining about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW_G6OVlzCI

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



The man called M posted:

Mostly from the Comicstorian complaining about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW_G6OVlzCI

Oh a bearded white nerd on YouTube angry about something, I never would have guessed.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Thirty seconds in and I'm feeling like you shouldn't rely of this fellow.
Here's the critic aggregate of the series https://comicbookroundup.com/comic-books/reviews/dc-comics/green-lantern-(2018)

I don't think it's Morrison's strongest stuff, but it's real prepared to get odd and go all over the place, which I dig. The tone and art is like nothing else current from the big two.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jul 26, 2019

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


It’s weird sci-fi pulp. If you like Morrison’s space stuff, it’s a lot of fun. There’s an overarching story, but most of the issues have different tones and subplots. There’s a good GL/GA issue that’s a love letter to the classic series coupled with Morrison’s signature strangeness. That’s worth picking up on its own.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The man called M posted:

Mostly from the Comicstorian complaining about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW_G6OVlzCI

I followed him for a while, but he started to drift further and further into 'now I don't know if diversity is bad for comics but something sure is bad for comics and things are getting kinda diverse around here.' He did not openly declare for CG or talk up Cyberfrog or whatever, but at the same time it felt like unsubbing from his channel was nipping things in the bud.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I never understood those COMICS EXPLAINED channels as opposed to just reading the comics yourself.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Roth posted:

I never understood those COMICS EXPLAINED channels as opposed to just reading the comics yourself.

some people just adamantly reject the idea of buying and reading or even finding scans and reading comics

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Eh, "all of comics" is a huge topic to learn about using only primary sources. Even if you're sticking with one of the big two there's gonna be some gaps in your knowledge and a character who's been around for thirty years but you know nothing about is gonna show up in Avengers or Justice League and you're going to want to know what there deal is.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, most of those types of videos are loving terrible, but I get both impulse to create them and to watch them.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
As for the Green Lantern question, it is Morrison being Morrison while using the Green Lantern character. If you like Green Lantern, you probably won't like the comic. If you like Morrison you probably will. I personally like the artwork so whatever. For me the problem is that the series seems pretty aimless despite Morrison adding his usual "big ideas" to every issue. In fact, Morrison seems more interested in "big ideas" than "story", so if you like seeing Hal Jordan shout "Earth you are you are drunk and under arrest" but don't care to see any follow up this might be the comic for you.
I just wish the comic would actually go somewhere. As it stands, Morrison is just playing around in galactic DC but pretty much ignoring anything Green Lantern related besides Hal Jordan.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Roth posted:

I never understood those COMICS EXPLAINED channels as opposed to just reading the comics yourself.

I mean I get it. I think I "got into comics" before actually ever reading one by just reading wikipedia articles on like, every character I was interested in (and then all the characters and stories that linked to and so on and so forth)

So if you don't want to read a bunch of comics but do enjoy a character from another form of media and are curious to find out some about them (and if maybe you like the youtuber's personality or whatever) Youtube is hardly a poor choice for a beginner learning about comics.


VVV: ha, fair.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jul 26, 2019

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

TwoPair posted:

I mean I get it. I think I "got into comics" before actually ever reading one by just reading wikipedia articles on like, every character I was interested in (and then all the characters and stories that linked to and so on and so forth)

So if you don't want to read a bunch of comics but do enjoy a character from another form of media and are curious to find out some about them (and if maybe you like the youtuber's personality or whatever) Youtube is hardly a poor choice for a beginner learning about comics.

Youtube is absolutely the worst choice for a beginner to learn about comics because if they keep clicking on recommended videos they will probably turn into a nazi.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Dawgstar posted:

I followed him for a while, but he started to drift further and further into 'now I don't know if diversity is bad for comics but something sure is bad for comics and things are getting kinda diverse around here.' He did not openly declare for CG or talk up Cyberfrog or whatever, but at the same time it felt like unsubbing from his channel was nipping things in the bud.

Yeah I noticed the same trend and stopped following him for that reason.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

What is going on?
https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/1156672637483065344

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Well... shoot.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!

Wtf why

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JimLee/status/1156715934809124864
https://twitter.com/RamonVillalobos/status/1156733333918736384
Funnily enough, Wildcats is the comic advertised in this week's books. The same thing happened the week Outsiders got delayed.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Sounds like Ellis had another hard drive failure.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
Good article on DC's precarious position as a very small component of AT&T's megastructure. Raises a lot of points that should be considered when trying to figure out DC does something that seems to make very little sense.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2019/07/31/where-does-dc-fit-in-atts-vision-for-warnermedia/#1d51704579b7

Sample:

quote:

It’s telling that in a long profile of AT&T CEO John Stankey this morning in Variety, DC was one of the only WarnerMedia brands that was not mentioned. To the extent that DC matters at all in the company’s future, it’s as a source of owned IP for other media channels and as a lifestyle brand to serve as an ambassador to geek culture.

...There’s another ocean in play as well: an ocean of red ink. AT&T’s debt following the $85.4 billion WarnerMedia acquisition stands at $164 billion. The company obviously believes it can monetize the WarnerMedia assets to make that back quickly, but that’s a huge sword hanging over management’s head, and the kind of thing that gets division chiefs thinking about short-term wins rather than long-term strategy.

...Faced with a cash-starved corporate master with an unsentimental, “what have you done for me lately” approach to legacy sub-brands and an urgent need to monetize its new media empire through streaming and licensing, it’s not unreasonable to wonder if even Superman himself is capable of rescuing DC Comics as we’ve known it for the past 80 years.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I hated the GL Annual. That dumb youtuber posted earlier may have been on to something.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


I liked it. Airwave is one of those characters I always wonder why more isn’t done with. We also got those Sonic the Hedgehog looking radio wave aliens from when Morrison and Millar were writing the Flash.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Rhyno posted:

Sounds like Ellis had another hard drive failure.

Nah they're blaming this one on the artists, it looks like

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

Nah they're blaming this one on the artists, it looks like

I was clearly joking my dude. Any time an Ellis book doesnt happen it's a HDD failure.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
I've been doing an undertaking of reading all Batman and family comics since the Golden Age. I am up to Detective #102 and Batman #74. I have come to the conclusion that all Golden Age Batman stories up to where I have read are trash unless a "supervillain" shows up. The penguin stories are usually the best. Everything with the Mobsters is absolute garbage and literally the same story every time.

Now the backups are something else.
Crimson Avenger is always super racist and just junk stories.
Slam Bradley is a weird action-comedy that isn't terrible, but also not memorable beyond knowing Slam's sidekick gets killed off panel in the 60s or 70s by drug dealers.
Airwave is an interesting character in the beginning, but is a one trick pony and he never has a story that isn't him versus mobsters. The art gets wild in late Airwave stories though.
Three Ring Binks is really hard to read, but what I have deciphered are not bad comedy stories.
Boy Commandoes started pretty good, but the art has started to suffer and the stories get real racist when it has to deal with the Japanese.
The other stories like Spy and some of the other detectives that have long been left behind were all trash art and stories.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Mr Hootington posted:

I've been doing an undertaking of reading all Batman and family comics since the Golden Age. I am up to Detective #102 and Batman #74. I have come to the conclusion that all Golden Age Batman stories up to where I have read are trash unless a "supervillain" shows up. The penguin stories are usually the best. Everything with the Mobsters is absolute garbage and literally the same story every time.

Now the backups are something else.
Crimson Avenger is always super racist and just junk stories.
Slam Bradley is a weird action-comedy that isn't terrible, but also not memorable beyond knowing Slam's sidekick gets killed off panel in the 60s or 70s by drug dealers.
Airwave is an interesting character in the beginning, but is a one trick pony and he never has a story that isn't him versus mobsters. The art gets wild in late Airwave stories though.
Three Ring Binks is really hard to read, but what I have deciphered are not bad comedy stories.
Boy Commandoes started pretty good, but the art has started to suffer and the stories get real racist when it has to deal with the Japanese.
The other stories like Spy and some of the other detectives that have long been left behind were all trash art and stories.

Are you gonna read the "World's Finest" comics that have him and Superman teaming up/fighting each other over dumb bets?

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Skwirl posted:

Are you gonna read the "World's Finest" comics that have him and Superman teaming up/fighting each other over dumb bets?

I know the Scarecrow appears in one of the issues for one of his 2 or 3 golden age appearances. I think I will go back and read them once I hit 1950 and bring it all up to speed.

Right now I am trying to get to the silver age where the stories will get better.

Edit: Golden age alfred is also an amateur detective who is played as comedy relief and randomly loses like 100 pounds and gains more hair after going to a spa for a weekend in an issue.

Golden Age commissioner Gordon is a nonentity too. Alfred may have appeared in more stories at this point.

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Aug 1, 2019

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Mr Hootington posted:

I know the Scarecrow appears in one of the issues for one of his 2 or 3 golden age appearances. I think I will go back and read them once I hit 1950 and bring it all up to speed.

Right now I am trying to get to the silver age where the stories will get better.

I was actually thinking of Silver Age stuff. Most of Neal Adams' early Batman work that wasn't just covers was in World's Finest. Including an issue where Superman recruits Batgirl and Batman recruits Supergirl to help take out the other at the behest of a pair of feuding aliens that turn out to be a single actor who's dying and thought fooling Batman and Superman would be his greatest and final performance

He also had a daily newspaper comic strip starting in the 40's, I used to have this collection I think. It didn't have the Sunday strips, I think because the Sunday strips would be a different serialized story. Except for a single joker story it's all mob stuff, they saved the supervillains for the color strips. One of the stories is about how impossible it is to find an affordable apartment in Gotham, which is still relevant today to a distressing degree.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
Weirdly, Superman and Batman don't actually crossover at all in World's Finest until issue 71 in 1954. Prior to that they have goofy team-up covers, but inside there are entirely separate Batman and Superman stories every issue.

The plot of their first team-up in World's Finest is essentially "Superman accidentally reveals his secret identity to Lois Lane, and goes to his bro Batman and they proceed to gaslight her by having her repeatedly "discover" that Batman is really Clark Kent, Superman is really Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Batman is Superman, etc. until she gives up and decides it was all some sort of weird prank."

Their first-first meeting was only two years earlier in Superman #76, which involves Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent both taking a cruise and accidentally getting double booked to share a cabin. This story inspired a very weird Joe Kelly Superman/Batman Annual and also probably some very early slash fiction.

Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Aug 1, 2019

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Edge & Christian posted:

Weirdly, Superman and Batman don't actually crossover at all in World's Finest until issue 71 in 1954. Prior to that they have goofy team-up covers, but inside there are entirely separate Batman and Superman stories every issue.

The plot of their first team-up in World's Finest is essentially "Superman accidentally reveals his secret identity to Lois Lane, and goes to his bro Batman and they proceed to gaslight her by having her repeatedly "discover" that Batman is really Clark Kent, Superman is really Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Batman is Superman, etc. until she gives up and decides it was all some sort of weird prank."

How am I not surprised in the least their first team-up is about torturing one of their supposed friends/allies?

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Skwirl posted:

How am I not surprised in the least their first team-up is about torturing one of their supposed friends/allies?
Technically (see my edited post above) their first team-up involved a plot from a cheesy sitcom. Though gaslighting Lois comes into play, as it does in a whole lot of 1950s-1960s Superman stories.

DivineCoffeeBinge
Mar 3, 2011

Spider-Man's Amazing Construction Company

Rhyno posted:

I was clearly joking my dude. Any time an Ellis book doesnt happen it's a HDD failure.

the Internet has destroyed my ability to detect sarcasm

every time I think "nah they don't actually mean that" it turns out they actually do

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Edge & Christian posted:

Weirdly, Superman and Batman don't actually crossover at all in World's Finest until issue 71 in 1954. Prior to that they have goofy team-up covers, but inside there are entirely separate Batman and Superman stories every issue.

This is one of the reasons I was debating not reading world's finest until I do Superman.

I'll be honest I am skimming a lot of the Golden Age Batman's unless a supervillain show up or the story looks interesting.

The Joker also shifts from murderer to guy who just elaborately steals weird items by his 5th or 6th appearance too.

Oh and the Cavalier while a weird villain has 3 just weird stories that feel like Silver Age comics trapped in the golden age.

Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Aug 1, 2019

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Edge & Christian posted:

Technically (see my edited post above) their first team-up involved a plot from a cheesy sitcom. Though gaslighting Lois comes into play, as it does in a whole lot of 1950s-1960s Superman stories.

So I'm still right.

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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Edge & Christian posted:

The plot of their first team-up in World's Finest is essentially "Superman accidentally reveals his secret identity to Lois Lane, and goes to his bro Batman and they proceed to gaslight her by having her repeatedly "discover" that Batman is really Clark Kent, Superman is really Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Batman is Superman, etc. until she gives up and decides it was all some sort of weird prank."

I think I have a new demarcation line for the start of the silver age.

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