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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
I just want to recruit that weird kid that freaks out all the time into my rag tag bunch of yellow assholes.

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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

JBP posted:

I just want to recruit that weird kid that freaks out all the time into my rag tag bunch of yellow assholes.

That's all of them

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008
I liked everything about Awakening (only FE I've played) except managing relationships to make children. I wasn't interested in any subsequent FE's cause I didn't want to manage children.

I assumed this game had a children feature but if I read the OP correctly, it doesn't not! I think I'll be trading in Octopath in the very near future to help fund this game.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Wildtortilla posted:

I liked everything about Awakening (only FE I've played) except managing relationships to make children. I wasn't interested in any subsequent FE's cause I didn't want to manage children.

I assumed this game had a children feature but if I read the OP correctly, it doesn't not! I think I'll be trading in Octopath in the very near future to help fund this game.

It does not.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Children are too young to go to Murder High School

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
All I want to do is play this game I think it's good.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I'm not very far yet but I am getting almost exclusively lovely level-ups so far (like maybe once I've seen more than 2 stats go up) and it's making me worry.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Wildtortilla posted:

I liked everything about Awakening (only FE I've played) except managing relationships to make children. I wasn't interested in any subsequent FE's cause I didn't want to manage children.

I assumed this game had a children feature but if I read the OP correctly, it doesn't not! I think I'll be trading in Octopath in the very near future to help fund this game.

Only two and a half games have children.

Harrow posted:

I'm not very far yet but I am getting almost exclusively lovely level-ups so far (like maybe once I've seen more than 2 stats go up) and it's making me worry.

Personal growths are just kinda low, it'll get rolling when class proper ones start to come in.

Kiranamos
Sep 27, 2007

STATUS: SCOTT IS AN IDIOT

Harrow posted:

I'm not very far yet but I am getting almost exclusively lovely level-ups so far (like maybe once I've seen more than 2 stats go up) and it's making me worry.

Yeah I’ve had only one good level up out of like 10 so far.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
I’ve had like half a dozen two stat level ups

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
So, I'm just kind of wondering how exactly you get more attacks up on your enemies in this. Like I get what people have been saying about weight, str/5, don't use Steel weapons etc., and that having +4 Spd over an opponent gives you an extra attack and so forth... but I'm just never really even close to being able to do that even on my speediest characters. The enemy, meanwhile, will gleefully throw 2x attacks and counterattacks at me all day long. Now I'm still winning fights and all so it's not a critical problem or anything, but it makes me feel like I'm not really understanding what I'm supposed to do to make this happen?

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

Bean posted:

I got the game yesterday and I'm enjoying it, even if I'm barely in it. Anyone have any stuff I should know so I don't mess up too badly? I'm not totally new to Fire Emblem but I've only played Awakening.

Someone will probably give you a nice list of stuff, but here's a few things that I, also an Awakening-only player, found different or useful:

- Hard isn't so bad: take it from me, who only played Normal Casual in Awakening, finished Chapter 4 on Hard Classic without ever coming close to losing a unit.
- The game tells you exactly which of your units will be attacked by enemies on their turn (including before you finish moving!) with big arcing red lines, so take advantage of that by luring enemies in with units you know can take a hit.
- On a similar note, everyone should have a healing item, and you shouldn't be too shy about keeping you unit's health topped up.
- ^^^^^-Double attacks are not just having 5 extra Speed anymore: it's now 4 extra Attack Speed (AS), a derived statistic of (Speed - [Weapon Weight - Strength/5]), and Weapon Weight can't drop below 0. In other words, take your Speed, subtract Weapon Weight, then add 1 for every 5 Strength you have. This makes Steel weapons a dicey proposition for the first few chapters.
- You don't get a beefy pre-promote like Frederick to carry your through the early game. However, both the MC and the house lords have excellent bases and growths. Everyone's gonna have a different experience, but my Byleth and Edelgard have a nasty habit of exploding enemies and sucking up experience.
- You have a whole ton of different ways of attacking in this game: your units get Combat Arts (weapon-specific special attacks) and Gambits (special moves and spells from a company attached to your unit - a band of mercenaries, some Church priests, etc). Often you'll find that a regular attack is too risky or not powerful enough, but a Combat Art gives enough of a bonus to damage and accuracy to make a clean kill, or a Gambit can push the enemy away and root them to the spot for a turn. Remember that you have options!

Harrow posted:

I'm not very far yet but I am getting almost exclusively lovely level-ups so far (like maybe once I've seen more than 2 stats go up) and it's making me worry.

When you change class, if your unit's stats are low enough, they'll be bumped up to that minimum level (it's different from the regular stat bonuses from the class - you'll see a little level-up screen). Pity StatsTM! Anyway there's plenty of time for everything to even out. My Ferdinand was crap for ages until he got a level that his every stat but Res and it seemed to cross him from a threshold from poo poo to Not poo poo.

The average growth total for characters is ~340%, with a few dropping below 300% and Byleth and the Lords at ~370%, so seeing a fair amount of 2-stat levels isn't overly weird. The Commoner and Noble class also don't add anything to growths (ok Noble adds 5% to Charm, who cares). loving annoying, though.

Coucho Marx fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jul 27, 2019

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

I’m gonna make Dorothea my dancer

So far I don’t really have a concrete plan other than the above. Petra seems good for Thief, and I’m probably gonna make Sylvain and Ferdie cavs. Not sure what to do with my Byleth just yet

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

lih posted:

Every class can use any weapon the character has the required stat to use, except gauntlets can't be used while riding, and magic can only be used by the magic-oriented classes. There isn't any restriction on the type of magic that those classes use either even though they say "Dark/White/Black Magic specialist" etc., that's just what their class abilities are focused on.
You say this, and yet mysteriously i lost the ability to equip gauntlets on Byleth when I class changed to monk.

Hand Row
May 28, 2001
Any compilations of classes/characters etc yet, ideally in a google doc?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Chapter 5 kinda starts to ramp up because they start doing pincer armies, and taking more than 3-4 units for one character is a bit much.

Abuse gambits and abilities that limit movement. Locking down multiple enemy units when 6-7 are coming at you is a godsend.

Coucho Marx
Mar 2, 2009

kick back and relax

Hand Row posted:

Any compilations of classes/characters etc yet, ideally in a google doc?

Here's one with stats and growths and stuff.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

not a bot posted:

The online thing in this is great. In chapter 4 there are so many yellow spots around death knight, meaning that a lot of chumps decided to take it on.

I took one look at the 35 attack, enough AS to double anyone, Counterstrike, AND sitting on a 40% evade tile and noped right out of considering that. I suppose I could have seen if Knightkneeler did enough, but I somehow doubt it.

It's theoretically doable I guess, if you've extensively prepared for it, but it's not like the Blue Lions really need an early Dark Seal anyways, what with Mercedes and Annette being your default magic users and neither can use it.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Hand Row posted:

Any compilations of classes/characters etc yet, ideally in a google doc?

Serenes Forest is fairly built out now, too. And more readable. There are soft spoilers if you look at things like weapons and stuff, given it'll show off all the unique ones too and etc.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

Tiger Millionaire posted:

Please stop praying for Edelgard! She's gained too many strength / speed levels and can not be stopped!!

Im definitely doing lions on my next run, everyone seems to be really racist to Dedue and I just wanna poach him into my into my all accepting eagles :(

Only like one character is racist to him in the supports that I've seen and joke's on him because Dedue is my best character who takes 0 damage and then punches enemies to death four times in a row.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
What exactly is the brawler passive? Is it just to let monks punch things? Is the damage boosted or is it one of the worst passives to master?

BrightWing
Apr 27, 2012

Yes, he is quite mad.
Question for those who "get" what the character building wants: I'm not super screwing myself over by playing around with characters skills a bit am I? This isn't something I need everyone to laser focus on a later class I want them in or whatever?

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Is there any way to check how far into a class's progression I am? I'm beginning to qualify for intermediate classes and I don't know if I'm done with the beginner tier yet.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
Are the auxillary maps, at least early on, not perma-death or something?

These GOT MURDERED quotes sound more like retreat ones and I am pretty sure I'm not on casual

Chocolate Bunny
Jan 13, 2019
Started as Blue Lions. Thought I wouldn't like this house that much so I decided to get it out of the way first but I ended up liking most of the characters in it.

I also spent ages trying to find a way to get the Dark Seal off Death Knight and then once I got it, after sacrificing a few units (on Casual, it's fine) I find out only male units can be dark mages... Guess I need to poach a guy from one of the other houses.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Anyone know what the golden light in the pond event is about? I haven't been able to get anything special with it.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
How do you get more ingredients for tea?

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
My Bernadette got abysmal stat growths but she is really endearing so I still use her a lot

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Amppelix posted:

Anyone know what the golden light in the pond event is about? I haven't been able to get anything special with it.

You can catch rare fish that'll sell for a bunch. (Like 1k, but still.) When you're fishing you have three chances to snag a biting fish and it'll change each time, so wait for a decent fish. Blue seems the worst, then red and then I guess gold. Also probably a bunch of professor XP.

eonwe posted:

How do you get more ingredients for tea?

The greenhouse, presumably.

not a bot
Jan 9, 2019
Yeah, you get gifts and tea ingredients (and more seeds) from the greenhouse. If you're exploring, plant and harvest every time since it doesn't use up an activity point.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

I love the new system for magic and not having to buy books, learning stuff as skills. I went with Golden Deer so I think I'm an outlier by picking the misfits but Lysithea is swiftly becoming a monster.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

What are you guys doing with your mage characters? Sticking a regular weapon on them just in case?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Miftan posted:

What are you guys doing with your mage characters? Sticking a regular weapon on them just in case?

In my experience by the time you're out of spells the map was over 30 turns ago. It's a complete non issue unless you're trying to solo maps or something

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Gamerofthegame posted:

You can catch rare fish that'll sell for a bunch. (Like 1k, but still.) When you're fishing you have three chances to snag a biting fish and it'll change each time, so wait for a decent fish. Blue seems the worst, then red and then I guess gold. Also probably a bunch of professor XP.
Isn't that another event? In that one it's something like "glittering fish have been spotted in the pond"

This one is where there's a huge pillar of light coming from it.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
golden deer is the land of healers and axe users

so many axe users

jesus christ that's a lot of axe users

Hard seems rough early on imo if only because healing is relatively weak. Lysithea and Marianne have mostly been glued to keeping Hilda and Sylvain upright. I know it gets better later, but I feel like it wasn't pretty much a vulenary in earlier titles.

Game is also, uh, rather poorly optimized for what it is. The FPS gets shaky and it has a similar power drain to Breath of the Wild of all things, plus load times obv. It's nothing like super awful or anything, but it is kinda noticeable. I'm surprised - was Warriors in the same boat?

Amppelix posted:

Isn't that another event? In that one it's something like "glittering fish have been spotted in the pond"

This one is where there's a huge pillar of light coming from it.

No idea, then. Maybe glittering is rare and the jesus beam is rhea setting up golden fish

Gamerofthegame fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jul 27, 2019

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

cheetah7071 posted:

In my experience by the time you're out of spells the map was over 30 turns ago. It's a complete non issue unless you're trying to solo maps or something

And for healers? I have run out of those spells before, but so far I've been giving them reason and it's worked out well for when they're out/don't need to heal.

I don't know if it's worth putting healing magic on non mages. Maybe Byleth so she can go mortal savant later on? Also might do Lorenz as a holy Knight I guess.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

what's it mean when a support rank is in red?

Inflammatory
Apr 22, 2014
so hubert and petra's c support confirms that petra's there as a political hostage to keep brigid in line.

Chocolate Bunny
Jan 13, 2019
Running out of spell uses doesn't really happen much once you get your magic users into their upgraded classes, but I keep a weapon on them anyway because why not.

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Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
So far the only spell I'm close to running out of is Physic because it's the one I'm most likely to use every single turn. Hubert's up to four spells now with 4-8 casts each and that boy just never runs out of juice, ever.

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