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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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KingNastidon posted:Please don't post a link to your periscope in July 2020. I still enjoy following the pro wrestling threads here.
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Jul 27, 2019 07:11
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twodot posted:So this is an open acknowledgment you don't care about human lives and you only value politics as drama for your personal entertainment? No, I'm attempting to discourage you dying in armed conflict if Bernie Sanders loses the democratic primary. I think the pairing of such rhetoric alongside a 80+ page mental health and depression thread is worrisome, but irony I suppose.
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Jul 27, 2019 07:36
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I must caution posters from discussing "direct action", we are after all monitored by police informant posters, you never know who is the genuine bernie stan and whose an "agent provocateur"
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Jul 27, 2019 07:38
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KingNastidon posted:No, I'm attempting to discourage you dying in armed conflict if Bernie Sanders loses the democratic primary. I think the pairing of such rhetoric alongside a 80+ page mental health and depression thread is worrisome, but irony I suppose. Well you're not doing a very good job, maybe you should look into actions you can take to decrease the likelihood of desperate violence! BTW, there are already going to be billions of climate refugees and mass destabilisation of entire countries. What's your plan?
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Jul 27, 2019 07:41
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Didn't want to quote a specific post because I'm more or less addressing the past page or two. So, what's the gimmick here? The gist I'm getting is that better things aren't possible, people don't want better things, the media isn't at fault for this, and nothing can be done about it for the next several decades until ~demographics~ changing will somehow nullify capital's influence on politics and the media. So what's the game plan dude? Because this is one dark as gently caress worldview.
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Jul 27, 2019 13:22
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i dunno expectations for him are probably sufficiently lowered this time around even if he mr magoos it again the reaction won't be quite as drastic If he really does carry through his promise to attack Harris, it will completely destroy the myth that Biden is charismatic or charming
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Jul 27, 2019 13:41
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Marxalot posted:Didn't want to quote a specific post because I'm more or less addressing the past page or two. So, what's the gimmick here? The gist I'm getting is that better things aren't possible, people don't want better things, the media isn't at fault for this, and nothing can be done about it for the next several decades until ~demographics~ changing will somehow nullify capital's influence on politics and the media. There's no gimmick, he's a FYGM concern-trolling arse
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Jul 27, 2019 13:52
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Jul 27, 2019 14:10
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Am I allowed to just and solely say "please don't kill yourself or go on a mass shooting rampage if Bernie comes in a narrow 2nd in the Democratic primary" divorced from other policy discussions/positions or is that sentiment also now fascist
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Jul 27, 2019 14:20
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Mukaikubo posted:Am I allowed to just and solely say "please don't kill yourself or go on a mass shooting rampage if Bernie comes in a narrow 2nd in the Democratic primary" divorced from other policy discussions/positions or is that sentiment also now fascist It's a weird thing to post in a thread where no one is going to do that anyway tbh punishedkissinger fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Jul 27, 2019 |
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Jul 27, 2019 14:23
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It's already clear that establishment Democrats are quite happy to steal elections from leftists while allowing Republicans to steal elections from them. What can you say to that?
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Jul 27, 2019 14:41
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Mukaikubo posted:Am I allowed to just and solely say "please don't kill yourself or go on a mass shooting rampage if Bernie comes in a narrow 2nd in the Democratic primary" divorced from other policy discussions/positions or is that sentiment also now fascist Sorry, the only thing you can post if Bernie doesn’t win the primary is “vote blue no matter who”.
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Am I allowed to beg Bernie stans not to send death threats to Elizabeth Warren after she obliterates him in the debate, or does that somehow make me a fash collab now
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Jul 27, 2019 15:07
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KingNastidon posted:Yes, in that something as clearly morally abhorrent as slavery took decades and decades of gradual progress and even then there wasn't enough broad public support to end it nationally without civil war. Destroying capitalism and eating the rich may take a few years. Notoriously bloodless event in abolition: Bleeding Kansas.
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Jul 27, 2019 15:17
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KingNastidon posted:Well, I'd prefer people don't spill blood if democratic primary voters don't nominate bernie sanders. It continues to astound me to no end how centrist creatures such as you are still in denial about the mass political violence that is inevitable in this country due to the dystopian material reality so many are living in regardless of who is the Dem nominee. The Bernie platform is literally the only one of all the candidates that has any chance of somewhat minimizing it.
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Mukaikubo posted:Am I allowed to just and solely say "please don't kill yourself or go on a mass shooting rampage if Bernie comes in a narrow 2nd in the Democratic primary" divorced from other policy discussions/positions or is that sentiment also now fascist It's paranoid and if you think that is going to happen you should talk to a therapist. E: obviously I know you don't think that and it's another substanceless attack on the supporters of a candidate you don't like, because libs can't debate the merits of their policies
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Jul 27, 2019 15:22
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Jul 27, 2019 15:23
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VitalSigns posted:It's paranoid and if you think that is going to happen you should talk to a therapist. Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning.  I don't usually post here much because this entire thread and possibly entire subforum is an useless toilet bowl, and every time I break my own rule, I always regret it.
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Jul 27, 2019 15:35
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Well good glad to hear it buddy, phone banking for Bernie sounds like a better use of your time than accusing strangers of being probable mass shooters
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Jul 27, 2019 15:37
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Mukaikubo posted:Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning. Well I guess you know what to do, then.
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Jul 27, 2019 15:37
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Mukaikubo posted:Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning. This is reflective of a lot of leftist culture... and perhaps human culture online in general. The internet is kind of desensitizing since we can rarely see how people react to our barbs and various other nonsense. I certainly shitpost way more online than I do irl.
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Jul 27, 2019 15:40
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KingNastidon posted:No, I'm attempting to discourage you dying in armed conflict if Bernie Sanders loses the democratic primary. I think the pairing of such rhetoric alongside a 80+ page mental health and depression thread is worrisome, but irony I suppose. The fascists aren't gonna give you a choice if they win and if you think incrementalism will stand up to their message when the economy shits the bed (and I'm not even considering their disenfranchisement operations) I almost envy your obliviousness. In other words: tylersayten posted:It continues to astound me to no end how centrist creatures such as you are still in denial about the mass political violence that is inevitable in this country due to the dystopian material reality so many are living in regardless of who is the Dem nominee. The Bernie platform is literally the only one of all the candidates that has any chance of somewhat minimizing it.
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Jul 27, 2019 15:42
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You really haven't realised that the Republicans are going to end democracy rather than accept obsolescence, and they are going to make a goddamn reality TV show out of publicly executing Democrats to keep the masses appeased while the planet boils.
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MSNBC’s Anti-Sanders Bias Makes It Forget How to Do Math loving MSNBC lmao tylersayten posted:It continues to astound me to no end how centrist creatures such as you are still in denial about the mass political violence that is inevitable in this country due to the dystopian material reality so many are living in regardless of who is the Dem nominee. The Bernie platform is literally the only one of all the candidates that has any chance of somewhat minimizing it. Yeah but political violence doesn't count to a centrist so long as it's in the form of a legalized system of oppression that incarcerates literal millions of people. We already boosted the number by 2 million in a couple decades. We can do another 5 easily. Mukaikubo posted:Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning. Please do not keep pissing yourself off by coming up with imaginary mass shootings. It's intensely unhealthy and frankly creepy as poo poo.
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Jul 27, 2019 16:05
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Marxalot posted:Didn't want to quote a specific post because I'm more or less addressing the past page or two. So, what's the gimmick here? The gist I'm getting is that better things aren't possible, people don't want better things, the media isn't at fault for this, and nothing can be done about it for the next several decades until ~demographics~ changing will somehow nullify capital's influence on politics and the media. Don't forget "create a leftist alternative to cnn/MSNBC" because it's totally reasonable and possible to be on the same footing as channeld owned by billion dollar corporations
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Jul 27, 2019 16:06
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i dunno expectations for him are probably sufficiently lowered this time around even if he mr magoos it again the reaction won't be quite as drastic I don't think so. Biden's biggest problem is that his entire campaign is "I alone can beat Trump." The result is that everything that is even slightly negative cuts his campaign deep. Bernie, Warren, and Harris can gently caress up here and there. They can fall behind and then make a comeback. This is possible because they are making a case for their ideas and actions being the best choice. Biden's biggest problem is that his entire campaign is designed in such a way that his natural instinct to gently caress up feeds back into loving up his campaign. If he had made his pitch anything other than just electability he might even have had a shot at not crashing and burning for the third time.
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Jul 27, 2019 16:17
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VitalSigns posted:Well good glad to hear it buddy, phone banking for Bernie sounds like a better use of your time than accusing strangers of being probable mass shooters Like for real it's some  poo poo to bust into the thread and frame folks as probable mass shooters and then act like you were the one unfairly set upon.
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Jul 27, 2019 16:37
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Mukaikubo posted:Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning. gee, I wonder why this thread is a cesspit Could it be all the substance free meta bullshit?
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joepinetree posted:gee, I wonder why this thread is a cesspit Probably because most of them seem to be high off stupid poo poo like this Despite calls to start over, US health system covers 90% posted:“When you have 90 percent of the American people covered and they are drowning in their health care bills, what they want to hear from politicians are plans that will address their health care costs, more than plans that will cover the remaining 10 percent,” said Drew Altman, president of the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonpartisan research organization that tracks the health care system. “When Democrats talk about universal coverage more than health care costs, they are playing to the dreams of activists and progressives ... much less to the actual concerns of the 90 percent who have coverage today.” The people in charge are complete sociopaths who absolutely do not care how many people they put in early graves so long as profit margins are maintained. Marxalot fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jul 27, 2019 |
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Jul 27, 2019 16:52
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Marxalot posted:Yeah but political violence doesn't count to a centrist so long as it's in the form of a legalized system of oppression that incarcerates literal millions of people. We already boosted the number by 2 million in a couple decades. We can do another 5 easily. There is a false belief nearly every civilization has: "But now we're civilized" A Liberal: The problems of the past are the past, we're civilized now. Yes slavery was bad, but now we're civilized. Sure Jim Crow wasn't great, but now we're civilized. [Oppressed masses complain about conditions], um no, you are incorrect we are civilized now and our society, since it is civilized, must have all of the attributes of a civilized society, so our society is 100% merit based, completely fair, and ultimately anyone's problem is a result of that individual. Also a Liberal: I definitely don't want there to be spilled blood. [Spoken while standing next to the blood waterfall runoff created by the suffering engine of capitalism] (for direct clarification: anyone that "doesn't want violence" is just goddamn ignorant to what currently is going on) In a vacuum, sure non-violence rather than violence. But "In a vacuum" never actually exists in the real world. All calls for *other people* to be non-violent are calls of the oppressor (or mimic the calls of the oppressor so exact as to be fundamentally inseparable). Reverend Dr fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 27, 2019 |
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Jul 27, 2019 17:09
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Reverend Dr posted:There is a false belief nearly every civilization has: "But now we're civilized" Uh so yeah, how did we stop slavery, oh right a war. How was civil rights (in hindsight it was, ultimately, quite a half-measure, now wasn't it?) brought into being? How was women's sufferage, or women in the workplace evolve? Every single big advancement was brought on, not by debate or voting, but by implicit and explicit threats of violence and outright violence. A Liberal: But now we're civilized! So don't do violence anymore. We're not civilized. That's the lie. That's the one true ideology of liberalism, to maintain that lie or at least plausible deniability of that lie. The person that will perpetually deny your problems is no ally. Indeed that is a foe, a particularly insidious foe. MLK was completely correct about who was the greatest hurdle.
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Ogmius815 posted:I predict that Obama will not endorse a candidate in the primary. He will. Late, to try and settle a brokered convention.
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Jul 27, 2019 17:23
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Oba-who? Never heard of the guy.
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Jul 27, 2019 17:38
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I’m enjoying the rapid vascillation between “look at this rear end in a top hat who thinks we’re going to be violent” and “look at this rear end in a top hat who thinks you can accomplish anything without violence!” That said, I am extremely unconcerned about any of you committing violent acts...
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Jul 27, 2019 17:50
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Mellow Seas posted:I’m enjoying the rapid vascillation between “look at this rear end in a top hat who thinks we’re going to be violent” and “look at this rear end in a top hat who thinks you can accomplish anything without violence!” They are saying the violence is already being committed by the system in place, you dense motherfucker
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Jul 27, 2019 17:53
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Marxalot posted:Didn't want to quote a specific post because I'm more or less addressing the past page or two. So, what's the gimmick here? The gist I'm getting is that better things aren't possible, people don't want better things, the media isn't at fault for this, and nothing can be done about it for the next several decades until ~demographics~ changing will somehow nullify capital's influence on politics and the media.
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Unoriginal Name posted:They are saying the violence is already being committed by the system in place, you dense motherfucker
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