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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007



rip evil matt christman

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Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost
bury me on bootlicker hill

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

Quote-Unquote posted:

I mean, the overlap between those two things is at least 95%

Yeah libertarianism is just weighted down by too many contradictions, which means you either reject the contradictions and become a communist or you embrace the contradictions and become a fascist.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

if you're a libertarian it follows that inequality is just, and from there it very naturally follows that human worth is tiered by gender and race. any of them that don't go Nazi just haven't given it much thought.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Best Friends posted:

if you're a libertarian it follows that inequality is just, and from there it very naturally follows that human worth is tiered by gender and race. any of them that don't go Nazi just haven't given it much thought.

This is really the core of it. At very best, they haven't thought through the implications of their ideology

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

"a brilliant engineer-mathematician"

Dodson moved to Arkansas originally to work at a design firm, he says, and was sent back to school by the firm to the University of Arkansas to acquire more skills, where he got the shirt.
...
He did not graduate from the university.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
"Scratch a libertarian, find a fascist" and its variations have been common currency in the libertarian thread for, like years now.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
The way I've always thought about it is that Libertarianism trades hard on something in the vein of "how things should be is how they would be without unjust intervention." There's this real cleaving between the political world and some kind of 'natural' one. This makes libertarianism fit real great with versions of fascism, since you can believe that there is a natural order of race and gender hierarchies, equality is the result of unjust interventions in the natural order, and authoritarian governance isn't government intervention if it is just upholding (or protecting or restoring) the natural order.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


yeah when i was libertarianish in my high school/early college days i was too stupid to grasp that we don't start from a level playing field and that racism isn't separate from economics.

it's why it pisses me off when people repeat that dumb bullshit the IDW loves - we want equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. we don't have equality of opportunity you dumbasses. you're too old to not grasp that poo poo.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
Libertarianism is a ideological waystation where you try to reconcile individual liberty and property rights, and then you break to fascism if you decide that property rights are paramount, and become ancom if you decide individual liberty is paramount

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

:rip: Jordan Peterson, tried to use a broom on the wrong raccoon

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

asking the important questions

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

What is quillette actually supposed to be

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Wolfsheim posted:

What is quillette actually supposed to be

the nyt/washpo opinion page, but without the news articles

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

breitbart but with a monocle

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Farmer's market nazi update: threepers and cops now patrolling the booth while half the farm staff are just sitting there the whole time recording anybody who passes by and seems to disapprove. Protester had a sign in front of the booth and was arrested, charges not yet announced but probably bullshit as it's county property and she wasn't disturbing the peace.

I feel like the next few weeks are going to be a flash point, they seem to be showing up just to try to incite a brawl or something they can use to sue the city for at this point. Volksmom has been doubling down on the white supremacist stuff, bringing in other fash helpers, and the protests are growing in scope every week. Black bloc showed up last week after a chud promised to kill a protester and eat them. If anybody knows anybody who has ears in the IE/AIM community and you hear rumbling about the Bloomington farmer's market or Schooner's Creek Farm I'd appreciate a PM

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




I mean he's top 50 conservative intellectuals probably

Unfortunately it's harder in the community at large to get that distinction when you show up to a debate with Zizek and lead off with "you've got hundreds of books and I didn't read a single one, instead I'm going to argue against the Communist Manifesto" despite the manifesto not being Marx's academic work, and then totally misunderstanding every argument Marx makes

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I can’t believe what a deluded piece of poo poo he was. I can’t imagine thinking that all I would need to do to prepare for a debate with a serious scholar was read an unrelated pamphlet and think it made me an expert.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I can’t believe what a deluded piece of poo poo he was. I can’t imagine thinking that all I would need to do to prepare for a debate with a serious scholar was read an unrelated pamphlet and think it made me an expert.

I told people he started it out with that and they refused to believe me, because they'd never imagine somebody would open up such a high profile debate by immediately admitting defeat

like he didn't even "get" the manifesto, he clearly just like skimmed it for quotes the day before. It's probably best he didn't actually read or analyze Capital because it would probably annihilate his mind given what he thinks Marxism actually is

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


I can fill the gaps on on this guy, as I knew him personally.

He was a mathematician that later became specialized in high-load electrical engineering, he was one of the few folks that really understood how intragrid and regional power grids worked and was a huge proponent of thorium power.

He also, uh, was raised very strictly as an Evangelical and, well, that never sat well with his homosexuality. He fought with it his entire life and from what I can gather, his spiral into white nationalism was spurred on by a means to reject his homosexuality. Obviously, it didn't really work, since he was soon dead.

I can fill in more information if anyone wants to know anything.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Slugnoid posted:

lol i wonder if they buried him in his meme suit


if you have the conviction to go mask off at something like UTR why kill yourself after the fact, ya dumb bitch

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Victory Position posted:

I can fill the gaps on on this guy, as I knew him personally.

He was a mathematician that later became specialized in high-load electrical engineering, he was one of the few folks that really understood how intragrid and regional power grids worked and was a huge proponent of thorium power.

He also, uh, was raised very strictly as an Evangelical and, well, that never sat well with his homosexuality. He fought with it his entire life and from what I can gather, his spiral into white nationalism was spurred on by a means to reject his homosexuality. Obviously, it didn't really work, since he was soon dead.

I can fill in more information if anyone wants to know anything.
oh :-\

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Epic High Five posted:

I told people he started it out with that and they refused to believe me, because they'd never imagine somebody would open up such a high profile debate by immediately admitting defeat

like he didn't even "get" the manifesto, he clearly just like skimmed it for quotes the day before. It's probably best he didn't actually read or analyze Capital because it would probably annihilate his mind given what he thinks Marxism actually is

Daily reminder that Jorp only got tenure because a buddy browbeat the committee chair into granting it, and both now regret the decision.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Victory Position posted:

I can fill the gaps on on this guy, as I knew him personally.

He was a mathematician that later became specialized in high-load electrical engineering, he was one of the few folks that really understood how intragrid and regional power grids worked and was a huge proponent of thorium power.

He also, uh, was raised very strictly as an Evangelical and, well, that never sat well with his homosexuality. He fought with it his entire life and from what I can gather, his spiral into white nationalism was spurred on by a means to reject his homosexuality. Obviously, it didn't really work, since he was soon dead.

I can fill in more information if anyone wants to know anything.

Was he a furry? I swear there was a nazi furry outed because of Charlottesville who later killed himself. Was it this guy or someone else? It was a big turning point in my realization that furries are our allies.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Was he a furry? I swear there was a nazi furry outed because of Charlottesville who later killed himself. Was it this guy or someone else? It was a big turning point in my realization that furries are our allies.

He was. His fursona was that of a golden retriever.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 22 days!)

A white nationalist with a golden retriever fursona is way too on the nose.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Victory Position posted:

I can fill the gaps on on this guy, as I knew him personally.

He was a mathematician that later became specialized in high-load electrical engineering, he was one of the few folks that really understood how intragrid and regional power grids worked and was a huge proponent of thorium power.

He also, uh, was raised very strictly as an Evangelical and, well, that never sat well with his homosexuality. He fought with it his entire life and from what I can gather, his spiral into white nationalism was spurred on by a means to reject his homosexuality. Obviously, it didn't really work, since he was soon dead.

I can fill in more information if anyone wants to know anything.

Right wing politics ruins and poisons everything it touches and offers no benefit to the species.

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

A white nationalist with a golden retriever fursona is way too on the nose.

why? i like retrievers

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it's nuts how rich jordan peterson got being wrong about everything.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Victory Position posted:

I can fill the gaps on on this guy, as I knew him personally.

He was a mathematician that later became specialized in high-load electrical engineering, he was one of the few folks that really understood how intragrid and regional power grids worked and was a huge proponent of thorium power.

He also, uh, was raised very strictly as an Evangelical and, well, that never sat well with his homosexuality. He fought with it his entire life and from what I can gather, his spiral into white nationalism was spurred on by a means to reject his homosexuality. Obviously, it didn't really work, since he was soon dead.

I can fill in more information if anyone wants to know anything.

is it true he was a furry

e: already beaten


420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Victory Position posted:

I can fill the gaps on on this guy, as I knew him personally.

He was a mathematician that later became specialized in high-load electrical engineering, he was one of the few folks that really understood how intragrid and regional power grids worked and was a huge proponent of thorium power.

He also, uh, was raised very strictly as an Evangelical and, well, that never sat well with his homosexuality. He fought with it his entire life and from what I can gather, his spiral into white nationalism was spurred on by a means to reject his homosexuality. Obviously, it didn't really work, since he was soon dead.

I can fill in more information if anyone wants to know anything.

"Be Gay, Do Crimes" saves lives

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155205025121132545?s=20

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
The all caps is just so on the nose

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

420 Gank Mid posted:

"Be Gay, Do Crimes" saves lives

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Going to white nationalism to escape being gay seems the dumbest loving move ever, what a dumbass

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Daily reminder that Jorp only got tenure because a buddy browbeat the committee chair into granting it, and both now regret the decision.

University politics dumb as usual cool

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Kurtofan posted:

Going to white nationalism to escape being gay seems the dumbest loving move ever, what a dumbass

It worked out for Rohm.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Hellsau posted:

It worked out for Rohm.

Narrator : it didn't.

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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
death is a form of escape

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