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Imagine making a paragraph that long about elfs and not knowing Nettle Sentinel is a card
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Along imagine the same thing but storm and Pyromancer's Ascension "20 storm" lmao what a fuckin clod
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Jul 27, 2019 20:15
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Lone Goat posted:Imagine making a paragraph that long about elfs and not knowing Nettle Sentinel is a card sick man nice job running out a board of 2/2s now what I’m gonna lay my cards down here: I didn’t pick glimpse and rite of flame at random, I’ve actually sleeved up rite of flame storm and glimpse elves in modern testing with friends. there are definitely cards on the banlist that have to remain there: hypergenesis, jitte, dread return, and so on. ur rite storm is a bad deck, and glimpse elves is just... fine. you don’t have to believe me! Proxies are free! Sleeve it and try it yourself! But if you are just gonna be like “lul have u thought of... THIS?!” without putting in any effort to actually test things then do us both a favor and don’t waste anyone’s time DAD LOST MY IPOD fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jul 27, 2019 |
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Jul 27, 2019 20:15
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:why is glimpse of nature banned Elves still has Heritage Druid and Nettle Sentinel.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:16
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:evaluate that statement. what is elves drawing to? how does it chain off with 1) no ability to bounce visionaries, 2) no lands that tap for more than 1 mana and 3) no natural order? like, imagine an explosive elves turn, then just imagine if the deck was cocoing into half of the Vizier combo instead. It would be a deck, it wouldn’t be an absurd deck. Have you heard of the card Heritage Druid? I heard it's got a great activated ability. Also, yes, one of the bigger issues with Storm is literally that you don't have enough fast mana and you rely on your mana dorks to make the fast mana good. If you had more fast mana, you could actually more consistently assemble grapeshot -> pif -> grapeshot or generally use pif much more effectively.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:17
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:sick man nice job running out a board of 2/2s Are you trying to get dunked on or something? Or have you never actually seen an elves deck before and for some reason think that you know how it works better than anyone else?
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Jul 27, 2019 20:20
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:sick man nice job running out a board of 2/2s Gotta see this elf list
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Jul 27, 2019 20:28
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Dr. Stab posted:Are you trying to get dunked on or something? Or have you never actually seen an elves deck before and for some reason think that you know how it works better than anyone else? yeah you’re right I’ll just natural order for... oh no it’s fine I can GSZ and grab... oh I mean, I’ve said my piece here, if you are really really sure its not like I can convince you. And it’s highly unlikely to be unbanned because wotc hates to take risks with unbans. But the core problem that modern elves has is that, while you can chain elves into elves, your chains are a lot more fragile than legacy’s due to lack of birchlore, quirion, and wirewood, and it’s much easier to fizzle out even with heritage Druid and multiple nettle sentinels. you also pretty much to have to let your opponent untap at least once due to the lack of natural order. I think the deck is good! I don’t think it’s better than a lot of other stuff the format is doing! And if you are really, positively sure I’m wrong and stupid, it’s really not hard to test it yourself!
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Jul 27, 2019 20:30
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:no it’s fine I can GSZ and grab... oh For what it's worth, we do have Finale of Devastation now. It's a fairly pale imitation (Rampant Growth vs Elves, 1GG elf vs 1G) in some aspects, but once you're generating arbitrarily large amounts of mana it'll end games all the same.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:36
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:yeah you’re right I’ll just natural order for... oh You need to take a break.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:37
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Lone Goat posted:Gotta see this elf list to the best of my memory, being that this was a little while ago: 4 Elvish Archdruid 4 Dwynen’s Elite 4 Visionary 4 Nettle Sentinel 4 Heritage Druid 4 Elvish Mystic 4 Llanowar Elves 3 Ezuri 1 Craterhoof 2 Fauna Shaman 4 Chord of Calling 4 Glimpse 4 Cavern of Souls 4 Horizon Canopy 10 Forest don’t remember the sideboard
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Jul 27, 2019 20:37
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Is this Dana Fischer
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Jul 27, 2019 20:48
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I'd defiantly play elves in modern but defiant elf isn't legal so there went that plan. I'd be on the lookout for it but Elvish Lookout isn't legal either.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:03
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https://twitter.com/heyworstartist/status/1155194361157758976
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Jul 27, 2019 21:06
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lmaoooo strap in fellas.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:09
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there's a small twitter thread from there but here's the two important ones https://twitter.com/heyworstartist/status/1155195734876205061 https://twitter.com/heyworstartist/status/1155202714076422144
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Jul 27, 2019 21:12
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If people are willing to work for free, getting them to pay for the privilege shouldn't be too hard, right?
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Jul 27, 2019 21:14
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Cynic Jester posted:If people are willing to work for free, getting them to pay for the privilege shouldn't be too hard, right? It's basically union fees
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Jul 27, 2019 21:16
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Sampatrick posted:It's basically union fees That is not how union fees work at all.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:17
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Union fees are generally a percent of your wages, usually 1%, or a flat fee which comes to a similar amount. In this case, they will receive approximately 1 (one) pack of the latest set for every 3 (three) medium-sized tournaments the judge judges.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:19
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Sampatrick posted:It's basically union fees A union protects your livelihood and negotiates with an employer
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Jul 27, 2019 21:19
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JerryLee posted:It's possible for people to want a "rotating status quo" but with a less restricted card pool than Standard. Whether Wizards should actually do it is another matter, since you can only make so many formats without harmfully balkanizing things, but "that's what standard is for!" is not actually an answer. Arena's about to create a new format when rotation starts, and if that translates into paper I think it would be a good thing since "Modern" has cards that are 16 years old at this point, which is a pretty immense barrier to entry. Yeah, that would kind of suck for everyone who's super invested in Modern, but the format's going to decline over time anyway as more and more players start who weren't even born when 8th Edition came out, so they may as well create something more viable. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jul 27, 2019 |
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Jul 27, 2019 21:22
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Sampatrick posted:It's basically union fees Yes, a deduction from your paycheck. That said paycheck is an occasional booster doesn't change this comparison at all. It totally does
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Jul 27, 2019 21:23
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So if WOTC isn't running it, who is? And if they're not running it but are still sanctioning it, why all the bullshit about it being completely separate? This announcement on Monday is going to be very interesting.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:28
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:A union protects your livelihood and negotiates with an employer Yes, that is literally the function of the Judge Academy as it has been described so far
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Jul 27, 2019 21:30
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lmao around the time I quit judging we were joking that soon we’d be paying wotc for the privilege and lo it came to pass
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Jul 27, 2019 21:33
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Sampatrick posted:Yes, that is literally the function of the Judge Academy as it has been described so far A union doesn't handle job training or employee management, and generally unions take a much more adversarial stance towards their members being compelled to do work for unfair compensation. Have you ever actually been in a union?
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Jul 27, 2019 21:34
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I mean, it does sound like a company union, in that it's probably a sham entity created by Hasbro to evade prosecution for labor law violations
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Jul 27, 2019 21:37
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Mat Cauthon posted:A union doesn't handle job training or employee management, and generally unions take a much more adversarial stance towards their members being compelled to do work for unfair compensation. 99% chance his only knowledge of unions comes from a dictionary and that united airlines poster.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:38
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Great zinger I just thought of: Everyone: pay judges wotc: judges pay
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Jul 27, 2019 21:41
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I'm waiting for some more information to come out on this one because 'pay
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Jul 27, 2019 21:41
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Sampatrick posted:It's basically union fees Does this mean minimum wage and benefits?
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Jul 27, 2019 21:41
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Dr. Stab posted:Does this mean minimum wage and benefits? Yes, you will pay WotC minimum wage while judging
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Jul 27, 2019 22:09
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:A union protects your livelihood and negotiates with an employer yea what a stupid post that was this seems super shady and i'd love to know who's bank account that goes to and what the dues are intended to pay for
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Jul 27, 2019 22:10
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If it's not a disaster seems more along the lines of a professional organization. Most of those have fees, handle certification, and organize training/development. But the qualifier is the if, lol.
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TheDemon posted:If it's not a disaster seems more along the lines of a professional organization. Most of those have fees, handle certification, and organize training/development. and most of those are for professions, where you get paid a decent wage, not paid close to minimum wage to work at PR events for multi-billion dollar multinational conglomerates.
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Jul 27, 2019 22:21
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JerryLee posted:It's possible for people to want a "rotating status quo" but with a less restricted card pool than Standard. Yeah, Extended was great
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Jul 27, 2019 22:22
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The sabotaging of organized play is really odd.
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Jul 27, 2019 22:26
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Elyv posted:there's a small twitter thread from there but here's the two important ones
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Mat Cauthon posted:So if WOTC isn't running it, who is? And if they're not running it but are still sanctioning it, why all the bullshit about it being completely separate? This is what WotC has always wanted. A judge started a class action lawsuit, which uh, good intentions maybe, maybe not, but it's responsible for Hasbro/WotC panicking and dismantling organized play in the most disorganized way possible.
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