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BaDandy posted:It'd be pretty easy to take over the gang if no one knew who the Boss really was. Giorno could just say, "I was the real boss this whole time and some rear end in a top hat was impersonating me," and what's everyone else gonna do? Diavolo barely left a trail. He didn't even leave behind a body. His paranoia guaranteed that he'd be super easy to erase and forget about. This never made much sense to me because Giorno is 15. How long is he claiming to have been the boss for, and who is supposed to have been the boss before that?
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Silver2195 posted:This never made much sense to me because Giorno is 15 It worked for Doppio 
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Jul 28, 2019 19:24
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Jul 28, 2019 19:27
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Man what a weird ending. I was expecting the Rolling Stone flashback to reveal some incredibly clever way that Buccarati could come back to life (or at least be directly relevant to what's happening in the present in some way other than the theme,) but actually it was just to remind us what a badass Mista is and then play a joke on him, which isn't exactly bad, but weird. The OP and Diavolo's fate were good though.
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Jul 28, 2019 19:30
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Kurtofan posted:giorno got his talking turtle to vouch for him Giorno got a sponsorship with Totino's©
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Jul 28, 2019 19:33
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Apparently loving Fighting Gold opening had the Rock hidden right behind Giorno Statue's legs in the first loving second what the gently caress. And yeah, I think I made a post earlier calling that stands in the ending are the order people die/leave in, and OF COURSE rock was underneath them all all along, lmao. I've really enjoyed those episodes! Change in the opening was something I was hoping for (since Diavolo's power was turned off and all) and holy hell it was amazing! Diavolo himself loving sucked. He wasn't powerful or smart and just got beat up. Even Kira got oraora'd and still managed to run away. Giorno's power is still bullshit. So, Diavolo can never arrive to his death? Makes sense. Why is he teleporting all over the place? Shouldn't he just be drowing and not being able to do anything about it? However, this time, I don't mind Giorno's bullshit. In fact, this was such a cool-rear end Giorno power, that I'm willing to forgive a lot of his poo poo. Just incredible. Cool, weird, and a great finisher. Probably the best since Kars. I can't believe it took them until the flashback in the final episode to actually show us a lot of character chemistry. It was great, but felt like less of a great episode, and more just a missed opportunity. Just give me weird Oingo Boingo episodes where characters just act like dorks and aren't constantly stressed! The rock itself was funny as poo poo. Also, it wrote "bad luck" into Mista, right? Is that why he got that paranoid? I mean, he still didn't have number four, but I assume he got waaaaay weirder after that. Also I should point out that I didn't miss Giorno at all during the flashback! I legit remembered he existed only after he was shown again. Probably my least favorite Jojo... Even with Jonathan you can at least laugh at how much of a dork he is, but Giorno? What was his loving deal? Aside from his stand, I barely remember him doing or saying anything... Honestly, the main plot should've just been his GANGSTAR motivation, and none of that drug poo poo. Just loving make him into a kid who wants to be the boss, and eventually realizing just how much of a piece of poo poo Diavolo really is. It's way more charming. Or gently caress it, it should've just been Jono Jocciaratti. Overall, I enjoyed the experience, even if the road to ending was rough. Everything from colisseum and Bruno sniffing souls was loving weird. Here's my review: 
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Vookatos posted:Giorno's power is still bullshit. So, Diavolo can never arrive to his death? Makes sense. Why is he teleporting all over the place? Shouldn't he just be drowing and not being able to do anything about it? However, this time, I don't mind Giorno's bullshit. In fact, this was such a cool-rear end Giorno power, that I'm willing to forgive a lot of his poo poo. Just incredible. Cool, weird, and a great finisher. Probably the best since Kars. Epitaph is going haywire and showing him countless possible futures in which he dies without ever actually reaching any of them.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Epitaph is going haywire and showing him countless possible futures in which he dies without ever actually reaching any of them. Eh, it's still convoluted, but sure, I can see that. loving love that poo poo, so I don't even care if it made sense or didn't.
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Jul 28, 2019 19:48
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Good news is now I can cancel my Crunchroll subscription and forget about Anime until Stone Ocean.
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Vookatos posted:Apparently loving Fighting Gold opening had the Rock hidden right behind Giorno Statue's legs in the first loving second what the gently caress. And yeah, I think I made a post earlier calling that stands in the ending are the order people die/leave in, and OF COURSE rock was underneath them all all along, lmao. There's also this https://twitter.com/LegoAlex98/status/1155535407658012672 Vookatos posted:I've really enjoyed those episodes! Change in the opening was something I was hoping for (since Diavolo's power was turned off and all) and holy hell it was amazing! Here's how I heard it explained that also makes the most sense. GER reduces all actions to 0. You can never reach any action you take, intentional or otherwise. Death is also an action, technically. GER makes it so Diavolo can never reach the "truth" of his death. However, death is inevitable in JoJo. No Stand can completely reverse death, not even Requiem Stands, and it's also one of the main points of the epilogue. So...what happens to Diavolo? Never reaching death but death being inevitable can't both be true. Reality isn't quite sure what to do with this, so Diavolo just keeps "glitching" through different deaths, forever. What happened was that Giorno punched Diavolo so hard, he glitched out of the main space-time continuum.
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I'd probably be a lot less disappointed in the final 2 eps if it weren't for the two (three?) week wait. I was expecting a big final confrontation with the boss, I didn't think he was done two episodes ago. Like it was fine and good but as a two ep finale it felt a little flat for my tastes.
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Vookatos posted:Eh, it's still convoluted, but sure, I can see that. loving love that poo poo, so I don't even care if it made sense or didn't. For all intents and purposes Giorno sent him to Hell, where he will suffer and die for all time without hope of salvation. Which imo is a little ott
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Silver2195 posted:This never made much sense to me because Giorno is 15. How long is he claiming to have been the boss for, and who is supposed to have been the boss before that? Passione is a mafia made mostly of Stand users. Are you really going to trust that the apparent fifteen-year-old is actually fifteen?
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Power_of_the_glory posted:Good news is now I can cancel my Crunchroll subscription and forget about Anime until Stone Ocean. hell yes
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multijoe posted:For all intents and purposes Giorno sent him to Hell, where he will suffer and die for all time without hope of salvation. Which imo is a little ott Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to imply that I was even looking for an explanation. That just loving ruled! (also lmao at him just drowning and getting stabbed by a drunk guy. Shame they didn't show a piano falling on him)
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Power_of_the_glory posted:Good news is now I can cancel my Crunchroll subscription and forget about Anime until Stone Ocean. Yep. That's me as well. Good series everyone, hopefully see you all in a few years not decades.
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Darko posted:Oh wow, that opening was amazing. the DIO pose with GER behind it was dope as gently caress
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Okay that was that. A fun ride and the opening shinanigans plus the post credit scenes were pretty amazing, but most of that is on David Pro and not on the overall plot. Not great, not terrible. However I can now read Vento Aurero Blazed without worrying about spoilers, yay!
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Sockser posted:When did Giorno’s braid get hosed up or cut off or whatever ? When GER happens.
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Zyla posted:i still have to lmao at araki's complete lack of subtlety I noticed the crown of thorns, but I never picked up on the stigmata haha.
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Zyla posted:i still have to lmao at araki's complete lack of subtlety jesus
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Vookatos posted:Apparently loving Fighting Gold opening had the Rock hidden right behind Giorno Statue's legs in the first loving second what the gently caress. And yeah, I think I made a post earlier calling that stands in the ending are the order people die/leave in, and OF COURSE rock was underneath them all all along, lmao. It also starts off with the 3 people that live and then shows everyone else in the order they die (outside of Fugo, who is just thrown in there).
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Thematically, Diavolo is in Dante's Inferno, doomed to experience death over and over again but to never truly die.
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Darko posted:It also starts off with the 3 people that live and then shows everyone else in the order they die (outside of Fugo, who is just thrown in there). technically fugo sort of 'dies' as far as the story is concerned, at least. it's fitting enough.
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Johnny Joestar posted:technically fugo sort of 'dies' as far as the story is concerned, at least. it's fitting enough. Yeah, messes up the order though - he should have been first.
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Zyla posted:i still have to lmao at araki's complete lack of subtlety  When he was cornered with his arms spread open I nearly screamed a big "COME ON!".
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Dude spends an hour and fifteen minutes talking about the themes of Part 5 and how much he loves Vento Aureo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXPziHbmOEs
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dancingbears posted:Diavolo is such a loser that only four people even knew he existed, and now that he's dead no one will remember him, much less mourn him. That's such a far cry from the eternal kingdom he wanted, it's comical. "Dead".
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Silver2195 posted:This never made much sense to me because Giorno is 15. How long is he claiming to have been the boss for, and who is supposed to have been the boss before that? It's a shame Polnareff doesn't remember the evil baby, because that's be the perfect counterargument. Sockser posted:I'd probably be a lot less disappointed in the final 2 eps if it weren't for the two (three?) week wait. I was expecting a big final confrontation with the boss, I didn't think he was done two episodes ago. If it's any consolation, the theory posting was fun to read. Though I did get quite a bit of amusement out of "Surely Diavolo will find out GER's weakness". multijoe posted:For all intents and purposes Giorno sent him to Hell, where he will suffer and die for all time without hope of salvation. Which imo is a little ott Well he is the Devil. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jul 28, 2019 |
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Kurtofan posted:jesus You mean Joshua ben Josef?
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Archenteron posted:You mean Joshua ben Josef? Okay, but how many musical references are in The Bible?
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Okay, but how many musical references are in The Bible? Jesus and his twelve apostles: Simon Garfunkel Molly Hatchet Blue Oyster Cult Public Image Ltd. Motorhead Chicago Grand Funk Railroad The Doors The Jordanaires Dr. John, the Night Tripper Warren Zevon Judas Priest
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Giorno reversing the hijack and doing the DIO pose blew my mind. I got so excited over something so conceptually simple, yet visually spectacular. It seems to me that the coda with Rolling Stones simply reinforced the theme of "the journey is just as important as the destination". Bruno was always going to die young, but if he'd touched the stone, the chances of our heroes toppling Diavolo would have been far more bleak. It's further condemnation of Diavolo's viewpoint that only the results matter, more dirt piling onto his bodiless grave in a manner of speaking. And now, it's time to end things with a dance party. 
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Archenteron posted:You mean Joshua ben Josef? 
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Darko posted:It also starts off with the 3 people that live and then shows everyone else in the order they die (outside of Fugo, who is just thrown in there). There's also chain coming out of the arrow that show up in shots for every character (fate symbolism?)... except for Fugo. At the end Giorno's GE breaks the chains. Also near the end there's a vertical pan with Giorno, Mista and Fugo on one side, and Abbachio, Narancia and Bucciarati on the other, if you want something more blunt.
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