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Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Concrete-shakes not going away. People are definitely going to be shot.

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1155576892398821376?s=20

Lycus fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jul 30, 2019

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420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

The Right: "The Left has an antisemitism problem"
Also The Right:

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
Selling antisemitism to the goyim from under a yarmulke has been one of Ben Shapiro's most lucrative hustles for a while now.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Cool it, guys.

https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1156057056471896064?s=20

Gross Dude
Feb 5, 2007

Gross Dude

420 Gank Mid posted:

The Right: "The Left has an antisemitism problem"
Also The Right:


This Berny guy is so greedy that he wants to give other people money.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Mr Interweb posted:

i'm curious what the non-racist reason is that these guys provide for insisting that it's important to know that black people have low IQs?

They think that if there's a scientific explanation that doesn't account for society then the status quo is ok.
If black people have low IQs, you expect them to under-perform. So that's why they're still poor! Redlining was years ago! Get over it!

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

HootTheOwl posted:

They think that if there's a scientific explanation that doesn't account for society then the status quo is ok.
If black people have low IQs, you expect them to under-perform. So that's why they're still poor! Redlining was years ago! Get over it!

Very generous of you to assume they’ve heard of red-lining.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


yeah these people don't know anything. they'll think they got you by pointing out even middle to upper middle class black students score worse than equivalent income white students but they don't know that a black family with an income of 100k is more likely than not living among white families making a third of that and thus go to shittier schools. it's ben shapiro spewing out contextless statistics about black america and saying it's "culture" because belief in any right wing position requires you to ignore historical context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfGciFH7BuI

everything he rattles off here is an effect and he treats them as causes.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Gross Dude posted:

This Berny guy is so greedy that he wants to give other people money.

famous folk parable on the evils of greed "Robin Hood"

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

420 Gank Mid posted:

famous folk parable on the evils of greed "Robin Hood"

you joke but some chud legit argued that robin hood was 'originally' about giving money back to the nobility from the government

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

HootTheOwl posted:

They think that if there's a scientific explanation that doesn't account for society then the status quo is ok.
If black people have low IQs, you expect them to under-perform. So that's why they're still poor! Redlining was years ago! Get over it!

Right, and it's the first step for basically biotruthing out everything. Women not in STEM? It's because their genetic makeup and hormones! Black people not achieving as much? It's their genetics!

Foundations and laws and regulations made to try and break the massive inequality of the past are then entirely unnecessary and wrong. They can then work on removing those attempts at equality not with a, "I don't like black people because I'm racist" or "the free market will decide (which people know is dumb and also racist)," but instead with a, "it's simply genetics, and refusing to recognize that is racist."

They can even then accomplish the latter with an added head patting for, "trying to do good, just inappropriately" which they think is a disarming tactic.

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

IIRC in the original tales Robin Hood did heavily skim off the top of what he took but he still gave the poor their money back as good PR

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Mr Interweb posted:

you joke but some chud legit argued that robin hood was 'originally' about giving money back to the nobility from the government



Robin Hood was the guy who shot an apple off his son's head, right?

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

FronzelNeekburm posted:



Robin Hood was the guy who shot an apple off his son's head, right?

I can't believe the fuckstain bothered to draw that but didn't go with "Robbin' Hood".

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

https://twitter.com/elivalley/status/1155957974390591490

Literally walks directly into it

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

FronzelNeekburm posted:



Robin Hood was the guy who shot an apple off his son's head, right?

oh how i miss keeping tabs on conservative comics


as for robin hood, i can totally believe that it's possible that in the original stories, he wasn't as much of a typical folk hero as we know him to be. but still, it's a weird argument to make since what people think of robin hood ISN'T what he 'may' have been 800 years ago or whatever

i think they call this the 'death of the author' or some poo poo

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

Mr Interweb posted:

oh how i miss keeping tabs on conservative comics


as for robin hood, i can totally believe that it's possible that in the original stories, he wasn't as much of a typical folk hero as we know him to be. but still, it's a weird argument to make since what people think of robin hood ISN'T what he 'may' have been 800 years ago or whatever

i think they call this the 'death of the author' or some poo poo

I mean he's always been an outlaw who fucks with the rich and powerful and that's the true essence of the character.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Feinne posted:

I mean he's always been an outlaw who fucks with the rich and powerful and that's the true essence of the character.

sure, i'm just saying it's POSSIBLE that he might have been kind of a dick back then since lots of folk heroes and stories that we like nowadays (like a lot of the stories that Disney films were based on) were not all sunshine and rainbows.

i mean, in the original greek myths, hercules was an immense rear end in a top hat who killed random people that weren't evil but just pissed him off. he's very different from the disney version or the 90s live action version.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Feinne posted:

I mean he's always been an outlaw who fucks with the rich and powerful and that's the true essence of the character.

Best part is how the "actually of noble birth, fighting against abusive usurpers" got tacked on over the years since celebrating a commoner fighting nobles was a wee bit much for the aristocrats writing it all down.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Mr Interweb posted:

i think they call this the 'death of the author' or some poo poo

That's not what death of the author is.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Star Man posted:

That's not what death of the author is.

it is NOW :cop:

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
https://twitter.com/BlueBoxDave/status/1156170508183973889?s=19

This is so typical of RWM intelligentsia. They spend all this time claiming they're just making rational arguments based on facts, but then when the facts become inconvenient they go full postmodern and question the nature of truth itself in order to justify their biases. This is the same thing run of the mill CHUDs do.

The other dumb poo poo they love to pull is pretending they don't actually like Trump while also saying he shouldn't be impeached or that he's not really racist.

It's all a con, and actual mainstream sources basically give them a pass on this. They're never made to answer for supporting the president.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Dilbert Creator Scott Adams Uses Gilroy Mass Shooting to Promote His App

https://gizmodo.com/dilbert-creator-scott-adams-uses-gilroy-mass-shooting-t-1836781947

“If you were a witness to the #GilroyGarlicFestivalshooting please sign on to Interface by WhenHub (free app) and you can set your price to take calls. Use keyword Gilroy,” Adams tweeted.

Roughly 23 minutes later, Adams had some advice for critics who correctly identified this as shameless opportunism aiming to capitalize off an atrocity: Grow up and stop it with the “fake outrage.”

“It’s a news gathering tool, like CNN and FOXNEws (among other uses),” Adams wrote at 8:44 p.m. PDT. “No fake outrage necessary. This is one of its intended purposes.”

Adams doubled down in subsequent tweets. Later in the evening, in response to a Twitter user who wrote, “Monetizing a massacre? Disgusting. WTF?” the cartoonist wrote, “You said that on Twitter, which monetizes every news story. As does CNN. Interface is just another tool.” Adams also wrote that “no one needs to charge for anything” on WhenHub, which lets users set an hourly rate. But it is obvious that the potential to make money off the Gilroy tragedy was on Adam’s mind. When challenged by another Twitter user as to why other media outlets such as CNN weren’t offering to pay mass shooting survivors for quotes, he responded, “How do they make money?”

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Feinne posted:

I mean he's always been an outlaw who fucks with the rich and powerful and that's the true essence of the character.

But when you're looking at the original stories told form before it became important to turn him into something of a role model, he's often loving over the rich and powerful in the name of other rich and powerful people, or himself as a rich and powerful person. Sometimes he's raiding the poor and later giving a rich guy a small cut. And quite often he's not even touching the rich and powerful, but loving around with similar high-status commoners who are his rivals, or simply messing with other outlaws and thieves.

He's really a lot more like pirate fiction characters than a guy who has serious beliefs that the rich and powerful are bad.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

ErIog posted:

https://twitter.com/BlueBoxDave/status/1156170508183973889?s=19

It's all a con, and actual mainstream sources basically give them a pass on this. They're never made to answer for supporting the president.

Someone posted over in USPOL that another Twitter account sifted through Marcus's tweet history, and the guy has a number of tweets where he directly calls Trump and his supporters "racist". It's all a grift, all the time with these people.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3892697&perpage=40&pagenumber=497#post497127058

Edit: You'll have to scroll down a bit. For some reason that link doesn't send you directly to their post.

tek79 fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Jul 31, 2019

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

I'm going to poo poo and piss on your parade.

"Death of the author" means that authorial intent is a myth. It's a framework of literary criticism that says that the author and the text are separate things. Limiting your reading of a text to the characteristics of the author means there is only a single way to read it and limits your reading to only a single interpretation.

Most writers (probably informed by the original essay) will agree that once they write something and it's published and out there that they have no control over how it will be read or interpreted. Folklore like Robin Hood might have an origin that points to an individual that wrote it or orated it, but folklore that old evolves with time and the people that share it. Virgil didn't create the narrative of the Aeneid, but it was adapted from the folklore of Rome's founding myth. We just use his version of it as the basis of it and read it to mean however we want to, despite the fact that it was a propaganda piece.

Snacksmaniac
Jan 12, 2008

Scott Adams blocked me a long time ago but holy crap that is a new low even for rwm grifter.

Feinne
Oct 9, 2007

When you fall, get right back up again.

fishmech posted:

But when you're looking at the original stories told form before it became important to turn him into something of a role model, he's often loving over the rich and powerful in the name of other rich and powerful people, or himself as a rich and powerful person. Sometimes he's raiding the poor and later giving a rich guy a small cut. And quite often he's not even touching the rich and powerful, but loving around with similar high-status commoners who are his rivals, or simply messing with other outlaws and thieves.

He's really a lot more like pirate fiction characters than a guy who has serious beliefs that the rich and powerful are bad.

Oh yeah for sure. I think there's also a strong vein of him being against the Normans so if a rich guy is 'real' English it's okay if Robin Hood is helping him and gently caress other poor people if they're Normans.

And just like pirate fiction there's a cachet to someone being an outlaw and getting away with it even if most of what they actually do is poo poo.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Guess whose parents didn't let him stay up to watch the debate last night?

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1156416695851868161

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


ben shapiro has said some dumb rear end poo poo but calling mayor pete a radical may take the cake.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

I didn't know how you can be so wrong about the debates in so few characters but by gum Ben made the impossible possible.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

No Safe Word posted:

I didn't know how you can be so wrong about the debates in so few characters but by gum Ben made the impossible possible.

Someone needs to pick up Bill Kristol’s crown now that he’s only The Mostly Wrongest Man In The Universe rather than The Wrongest Man In The Universe.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

No Safe Word posted:

I didn't know how you can be so wrong about the debates in so few characters but by gum Ben made the impossible possible.

He didn't watch it (and neither did his followers/supporters, so he can say whatever he wants).

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Never read anything from sharpo. It loses its honesty if you don't also hear the voice of a 5'1 manchild trapped in a room full of helium.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Crabtree posted:

Never read anything from sharpo. It loses its honesty if you don't also hear the voice of a 5'1 manchild trapped in a room locker full of helium.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Crabtree posted:

Never read anything from sharpo. It loses its honesty if you don't also hear the voice of a 5'1 manchild trapped in a bucket full of santorum.

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Groovelord Neato posted:

ben shapiro has said some dumb rear end poo poo but calling mayor pete a radical may take the cake.

Being gay is radical in Ben's little world.

tylersayten
Mar 20, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Twelve by Pies posted:

Guess whose parents didn't let him stay up to watch the debate last night?

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1156416695851868161

Shapiro and RWM signal boost moderate (ie right-wing) candidates for democrats like this because they’re scared shitless how much bipartisan support Bernie’s left economic policies have among the middle and lower classes in red flyover states

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Groovelord Neato posted:

ben shapiro has said some dumb rear end poo poo but calling mayor pete a radical may take the cake.
Mayor Pete got in a great line about how if the Democrats implement radical policies, the Republicans will call them crazy socialists .... and if they implement conservative policies, the Republicans will still call them crazy socialists, so who cares what Republicans think?

I'm sure to Ben Shapiro this meant "let's all be radical socialists" though.

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PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Groovelord Neato posted:

ben shapiro has said some dumb rear end poo poo but calling mayor pete a radical may take the cake.

Proving the whole 'it literally doesn't matter what we say they're going to call us socialists anyways' thing 100% correct

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