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# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:13

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 22:11

The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Chakan posted:

I wanted to go, but I got too much going on right now. Do you know if they'll post the audio?

means tv has a guy filming them

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:21

Percelus: Sep 9, 2012; My command, your wish is

greenwald's staunch uncompromising views on freedom of speech often have him knocking heads with people because he believes even the most vile figures should have a right to spew garbage and while i can see why a lot of people disagree with that stance i think it's a legitimate area of discussion and both sides raise good points

it's the old should we let the kkk march debate but with alt-righters on youtube

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:26

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Hes basically just a typical terf pundit from England but hes here instead

What the gently caress made the UK into a TERF cesspit anyway?

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:26

THS: Sep 15, 2017

Halloween Jack posted:

What the gently caress made the UK into a TERF cesspit anyway?

mumsnet

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:27

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

lol i got a week's time out for calling elon musk a "thot and nasty rear end ho" must be that specific phrase that triggers it.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:31

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

https://twitter.com/nytopedalert/status/1156593467293933568

Dammit, now I'm curious. :doom:

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:56

lowly abject turd: Mar 23, 2009

prefect posted:

https://twitter.com/nytopedalert/status/1156593467293933568

Dammit, now I'm curious.

unfortunately it was already open on my computer so...

doubtthat posted:

Joe Biden Won Last Night�s Democratic Debate

Marianne Williamson won last night�s debate if you judge exclusively in terms of charisma, rhetoric and the effective use of television. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren won last night�s debate � Sanders slightly more so, in my view � if you judge based on whether the two most important candidates onstage did what they needed to remain important. John Delaney won last night�s debate, despite earning the everlasting ire of left-wing Twitter, if you want to know which also-ran candidate made the most of his chances in the spotlight.

But the big winner wasn�t on the stage: It was Joseph Robinette Biden, currently warming up for his turn tonight, who must have been smiling all the way through the evening�s fierce moderates-versus-revolutionaries debate.

Right now, Biden is the only moderate candidate who matters. He�s climbed back to 30 percent in the polls after his stumbles at the last Democratic debate, and none of the umpteen would-be moderates in the field took advantage of that stumble even temporarily � there was no Klobuchar surge, no Hickenlooper hiccup, no Bennet bounce.

This is all good news for the front-runner, but with one important caveat: It would be very useful to Biden if what happened last night kept happening, which would require at least one other would-be moderate to hang around, qualify for the fall debates and poll at 4 or 8 percent instead of sinking perpetually back toward zero. That person could do what Delaney and to a lesser extent Hickenlooper, Klobuchar, Ryan and Bullock did last night: They could make a direct and pointed and unapologetic case against the major leftward candidates, their plans and policies and political vision, so that Biden doesn�t have to do it.

Every front-runner can benefit from having an attack dog on his side, savaging his rivals while he stays a little more above the fray. In 2008, John McCain slipped through to the Republican nomination in no small part because Mike Huckabee just hated Mitt Romney, and stuck knives in Romney every chance he got. In 2016, Donald Trump won the New Hampshire primary easily because Chris Christie, an also-ran by then but also Trump�s de facto ally in the �Tri-State-Area bully� lane, savaged Marco Rubio so thoroughly that the usually smooth Floridian essentially glitched onstage during a debate, seemingly confirming every anti-Rubio critique.

In the same way, Biden benefits from the moderates-versus-Sanders and moderates-versus-Warren scenes that played out repeatedly on last night�s stage, because they help him escape the essential dilemma of his candidacy: That he can probably win if he consolidates and holds the moderate wing of the party � but that the work of consolidation, to the extent that it requires frontal attacks on the woke and neo-socialist styles of liberal politics, could threaten party unity even more than the Sanders-versus-Hillary Clinton conflict four years ago.

Imagine Biden fighting Warren and Sanders and (depending on her positioning) Kamala Harris the way Delaney did last night, on the way to a narrow victory at a contested convention. Team Biden would surely take the victory, but it�s not at all the scenario that his campaign (or any Democrat) should want. And that scenario assumes that Biden is even capable of taking the fight to the more left-wing candidates in a sustained and compelling way. On the evidence of his first debate performance, he might need an attack dog because he himself simply isn�t quick or supple enough for onstage combat anymore.

We�ll know more after tonight�s debate, which will probably test him not only with whatever Harris has prepared, but also in the same way that Warren and Sanders were tested, with Bill de Blasio filling the John Delaney role and attacking Biden from the furthest left at every opportunity. In which case Biden�s tricky task, unless he gets unexpected backup, will be to prove he can counterpunch without seeming to be too anti-left, too ready for ideological civil war.

But having emphasized all the pitfalls ahead for him, it�s worth returning to where we started: With Biden having a good night while his leftward rivals fought the moderates. Yes, come the fall he won�t have Delaney or Hickenlooper to fight his battles for him. Yes, he has to prove that he can marry toughness and finesse. Yes, his obvious path to the nomination involves a lot of intraparty strife. But he�s holding 30 percent of the primary electorate when nobody else has much more than half that, his core constituency is precisely the sort of voter who doesn�t give a rip who left-wing or media Twitter thinks is winning the debates, and three weeks after Harris supposedly demolished him, their whole encounter barely even registers in polls.

Which means that all of last night�s fireworks were just a prelude. Biden is the most important figure in the two-night spectacle � and he enters CNN�s arena tonight as still, and perhaps enduringly, the candidate to beat.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 16:59

AngryBooch: Sep 26, 2009

I'm imagining how bad that take is gong to look tomorrow after Biden looks like a senile bumbling idiot on stage tonight. Imagine thinking that Biden is a skilled campaigner or spokesman. Every single report of a Biden event features people coming out of them less enthused. Dude is a black hole of enthusiasm.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:03

DoubleDonut: Oct 22, 2010; Fallen Rib

Biden definitely will not do the same thing he's done with every democratic primary for the past twenty years

Also fuckin lol at people corncobbing by proxy for Delaney after Warren smoked him

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:06

Spoeank: Jul 16, 2003; That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

I like where Ross talks about how Joe tumbled in the polls the last time he opened his big stupid old mouth, so by not being able to open his big stupid old mouth, he won last night.

Now to see what Biden is up to tonight

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:07

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Trip Report: Even my in-laws, who are well-to-do white people who retired to a golf resort, think that both parties are a gerontocracy and are alarmed by climate change denial. They were afraid inviting Republican Uncle to my birthday dinner would result in nuclear war, but we yucked it up over people dumb enough to think Russia is still a world power.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:21

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

Voting rights should terminate at 60.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:36

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Voting rights should terminate at 60.

See you at Carousel!

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:40

Serf: May 5, 2011

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Voting rights should terminate at 60.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:43

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Halloween Jack posted:

What the gently caress made the UK into a TERF cesspit anyway?

People from actual radical feminist backgrounds seem to be much more common in the UK media bubble than in the US

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:44

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

As near as I can tell, TERFs are not actually feminist at all. If someone is a TERF their entire feminism is based on losing their poo poo about the Trans Agenda. TERFs are to feminism what National Socialism is to socialism.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 17:52

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

TERFs are the result of capitalist/liberal feminism. Non socialist feminism relies on essentialism, the argument that women or men are born with inherent characteristics, and depending on which non-socialist feminist also dumb poo poo about moon goddesses or whatever. Essentialism is inherently transphobic because men/women can't "transition" according to it, they are what they are, it usually also erases non-binary people for this reason.

Like others have mentioned, radical feminism was/is a lot more popular in the UK because the historically radfem (aka TERF) scholars have been a lot more popular in academia/popular culture there

# ? Jul 31, 2019 18:00

ZenMasterBullshit: Nov 2, 2011; Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Halloween Jack posted:

What the gently caress made the UK into a TERF cesspit anyway?

Mumsnet and the media class being like 80% upper middle class white women with nothing to do but to radicalize each other passing fake studies and news reports back and forth for like 2 decades

# ? Jul 31, 2019 18:14

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Serf posted:

35

22

everyone gets one

# ? Jul 31, 2019 18:16

i say swears online: Mar 4, 2005

sexpig by night posted:

22

everyone gets one

president lil pump

# ? Jul 31, 2019 18:30

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

the rule is simple, one person one vote, you get one presidential and one midterm election. I'm an originalist so you have to say you respect my dedication to my beliefs even if they're stupid as gently caress :colbert:

# ? Jul 31, 2019 18:33

Halloween Jack: Sep 12, 2003; I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Groovelord Neato posted:

lol i got a week's time out for calling elon musk a "thot and nasty rear end ho" must be that specific phrase that triggers it.

Of course, they can do this while leaving the Nazis unmolested.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 20:03

Jonas Albrecht: Jun 7, 2012

https://twitter.com/Bodyisturd/status/1156633271310147585?s=19

# ? Jul 31, 2019 20:04

Gripweed: Nov 8, 2018

All contributors to This American Life are special little hot house flowers who need to be kept at the correct humidity and never allowed to contact the outside world.

# ? Jul 31, 2019 20:16