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what's the best part about the piss tape being real
the part about the actual president being that petty that he wanted piss on obama's mattress
the part about kushner not doing great at his assigned role as middle east peace specialist failson extraordinaire
the part about vladimir putin actually having kompromat and getting the fbi director fired through its influence on the potus
the part about barron trump just holding a snowglobe wondering what it's all for, while his dad ends the world with his idiocy
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lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dream9!bed!! posted:

So the theory behind the media not releasing the burn of the century on a universally hated character is... What again

our media? incompetent failsons terrified of taking risks? no way

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Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Pathos posted:

someone needs to tweet this poo poo at one of the anti-trump second tier celebrities (Alyssa Milano etc) with pictures from the video and the link, not just a super sketchy looking url. hell even krang might be receptive.

Preferably someone with a real twitter profile, who knows how to make threads better than me

It would also be nice if our "comparison GIF" of the colbert room autoplayed in the twitter window, and did not look like a still image for like a trillion years before finally fading to show trump

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Pathos posted:

someone needs to tweet this poo poo at one of the anti-trump second tier celebrities (Alyssa Milano etc) with pictures from the video and the link, not just a super sketchy looking url. hell even krang might be receptive.

I think Jim Carrey is the guy. I can imagine him releasing a mediocre painting of a Trump piss party with a link to the piss tape.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Tip posted:

I think Jim Carrey is the guy. I can imagine him releasing a mediocre painting of a Trump piss party with a link to the piss tape.

We need Al! or twoday to recreate the scene artistically. I bet people would love a woodblock print of trump pointing at a prostitute while her piss streams onto the bed

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
Lol it's so real

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
The Piss Tape's relevancy died when Michael Cohen testified he'd never been to Prague.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
I honestly haven't thought about the piss tape in months and that depresses the hell out of me

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
Wishlist for a master piss tape evidence compilation:

- Video format that can play directly in a tweet (doesn't need a link click, won't be mis-cropped by the twitter player)
- Include both distinct phone videos taken by the leaker, each one showing the full ~24 seconds (2 clips)
- The GIF comparing the room to the Colbert video. Preferably, speed the GIF way up. Also separate it into side by side images.
- The floorplan image for the suite provided by Ritz Carlton's website (include link) showing the TV where the camera would be, and point out that concealing in a TV would be one of the only ways to avoid security sweeps while still providing power wiring
- Link to the earliest 4chan source of the video (Jan 15th)
- Tweet it from a good twitter account with some followers, profile and pic filled out
- Make it clear that it's a twitter thread
- Tweet it widely at not at liberal reporters but actual marxist/leftist ones (Jimmy Dore? Other youtubers?), B list liberal celebrities, who else?

Ideally this compilation of info should also point out our own observations:

- The room details are correct, right down to the light fixtures, which would not have been moved even during a renovation.
- There's some element of technical know-how as well; whoever leaked them at least knew that they should launder the data by recording their computer monitor with a phone.
- The Ritz Carlton in Moscow posted a floorplan of the suite in question. If they kept the furniture this way it suggests the camera is integrated with the TV, a sensible way for it to survive security sweeps, and it matches the view shown in the video.
- The dark/low video quality is consistent with what actual spy equipment would have to be like to avoid security sweeps.
- The personality and mannerisms seem to be a match for Trump (pointing at on phone / tv remote instead of watching the act)
- The total lack of fanfare or viral marketing around it, deletion from liveleak, and disappearance for 6 months from everywhere but SA, is evidence that it's not an intentional phony, but a leak -- from a low level person who wasn't supposed to leak it.
- The 4chan posts' timing coincides roughly with the Roger Stone arrest, if that means anything.
- That even if it's a prank, the prankster had to have access to that exact Moscow hotel suite, and had to be willing to hire sex workers -- few comedians fit that bill (Fielder, SBC, anyone else?), or if a nation state faked it they had to break the law to do so. (edit: An abandoned James O'Keefe / Project Vertias adventure should be considered as well. But those guys are loudmouths and usually frankly pretty bad at their pranks, and there are too many things right about these clips for that to add up.)
- The case others have made against the clip - including Ritz's message that a renovation took place sometime since 2014. Also that Trump looks thin and inexpressive facially with a weird face, potentially a rubber mask or deepfake.
- Whatever their origin it makes for a good discussion, because someone clearly went to a lot of trouble. If they're real, which I think they might be, they could be used to demoralize Trump.

Example twitter threads with some of those links available for you to grab, but still not correctly following the above: 1 2

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Doctor Candiru
Dec 23, 2004
Umbrella Monkey Sand
I'm with you on all of that (except getting Dore involved, because he's such a Seth Rich truther that he's basically pro-Trump at this point). I genuinely wonder what the best time to push all of this would be, though. Do we keep it in our back pocket and promote it at a specific time, or is the tape all time condensed into a singularity?

Like others in the thread, I've talked to a couple of reporters about this, and they'd all heard of the tape, and dismissed it out of hand.

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Pissssssssss

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Doctor Candiru posted:

Like others in the thread, I've talked to a couple of reporters about this, and they'd all heard of the tape, and dismissed it out of hand.

This part of it is really weird to me

Even if you were 100% convinced it's a fake, isn't "someone made a fake piss tape" still a story? But yeah, literally the only reporter who replied to me just sent back "you think that's real?" in an incredulous tone. Okay, well, fine, if you think it's fake (it's not, it's so real) shouldn't we be investigating who is going through the trouble of creating fake piss tapes?

This wasn't just something done with CGI, they had to either go to the room or recreate it. Real effort was put into this thing.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

WampaLord posted:

This part of it is really weird to me

Even if you were 100% convinced it's a fake, isn't "someone made a fake piss tape" still a story? But yeah, literally the only reporter who replied to me just sent back "you think that's real?" in an incredulous tone. Okay, well, fine, if you think it's fake (it's not, it's so real) shouldn't we be investigating who is going through the trouble of creating fake piss tapes?

This wasn't just something done with CGI, they had to either go to the room or recreate it. Real effort was put into this thing.
How do you even propose this gets investigated?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

How do you even propose this gets investigated?

gently caress if I know, I'm not a reporter, but it's clear you're curious too:

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I won't even be disappointed if the tape's a fake. I just want to know where it's from.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

WampaLord posted:

gently caress if I know, I'm not a reporter, but it's clear you're curious too:

No journalist is going to dm you a statement indicating their credulity about the piss tape when those dm's if you screenshotted them would ruin their career. I have no doubt that this has been looked into and that NO ONE wants to signal boost this without something tangible like the original file.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

No journalist is going to dm you a statement indicating their credulity about the piss tape when those dm's if you screenshotted them would ruin their career. I have no doubt that this has been looked into and that NO ONE wants to signal boost this without something tangible like the original file.

You think they couldn't even respond with something like "Thanks, I'm looking into this" because it would end their career if something that mild leaked?

I think that seems far fetched. I think the more likely explanation is they just want to write it off as fake because that's the lazier and easier option than trying to investigate it.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

WampaLord posted:

You think they couldn't even respond with something like "Thanks, I'm looking into this" because it would end their career if something that mild leaked?

I think that seems far fetched. I think the more likely explanation is they just want to write it off as fake because that's the lazier and easier option than trying to investigate it.

I honestly believe that if any journalist told you that they were looking into the piss tape in a professional context and were being paid to do so, that that would absolutely get them fired.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


hey guys. guess what! the piss tape? it's real

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

I honestly believe that if any journalist told you that they were looking into the piss tape in a professional context and were being paid to do so, that that would absolutely get them fired.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Russiagate is still ratings gold and the piss tape is pure Russiagate plus it's sex scandal. No one would get fired if they were making a good effort attempt to figure out if it's real or not because if it is real then whatever outlet they work for is gonna have the scoop of the decade

World War Mammories posted:

hey guys. guess what! the piss tape? it's real

you're god damned right

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
We all know the Piss Tape is real. But the ultimate question is and always has been: who blurred the faces?

I can not think of any explanations other than "it's fake and the women only agreed to it if their faces were blurred" or "Mueller found the piss tape and it was one of the classified referrals"

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

It could have been done in post-processing, in the original video their faces are probably unblurred

If you're gonna fake it, it's pretty easy to hire some women who will agree to have unblurred faces

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

WampaLord posted:

It could have been done in post-processing, in the original video their faces are probably unblurred

That's exactly it. WHO EDITED THE PISS TAPE?

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


i did

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

How do you even propose this gets investigated?

lets take a copy to the russian embassy and ask them: "is this real?"

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Spergin Morlock posted:

lets take a copy to the russian embassy and ask them: "is this real?"

"da"

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
email copies to former eastern bloc countries, they could use a leg up on negotiating material

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
The actual answer is "check all of liveleak starting backwards from when the recording of the video was first posted to 4chan and hope it hasn't been taken down by the uploader" and nothing is worth that.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
It's not like we're sending in obviously faked images going "found this what do u think"

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Blitz7x posted:

It's not like we're sending in obviously faked images going "found this what do u think"



Ok but where is THIS from

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



WampaLord posted:

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Russiagate is still ratings gold and the piss tape is pure Russiagate plus it's sex scandal. No one would get fired if they were making a good effort attempt to figure out if it's real or not because if it is real then whatever outlet they work for is gonna have the scoop of the decade


you're god damned right

Did the Watergate reporters go around telling people who had no information to give that they were investigating the POTUS and cabal?

If any reporter is looking into this they won't be telling you that they are doing it. Sure it won't bring down the presidency but due to it's sexual nature and decorum surrounding POTUS, this is not a story that you advertise you are working on.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Ok but where is THIS from

https://youtu.be/8cs4tKdiiI4

Edit: a plausible explanation would be that while filming this music video they had a few outtakes and that ended up being our very real piss tape. But even then the room in the music video doesn't match

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

tangy yet delightful posted:

Did the Watergate reporters go around telling people who had no information to give that they were investigating the POTUS and cabal?

If any reporter is looking into this they won't be telling you that they are doing it. Sure it won't bring down the presidency but due to it's sexual nature and decorum surrounding POTUS, this is not a story that you advertise you are working on.

But we're trying to give them information, we're not just randos on the street.

Like I get that you need OPSEC or whatever but I really don't think emailing me back saying "thanks, looking into it" would get anyone fired.

this whole derail is dumb

e: vvv thanks, really substantive poo poo my man

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SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

WampaLord posted:

But we're trying to give them information, we're not just randos on the street.

...

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Blitz7x posted:

https://youtu.be/8cs4tKdiiI4

Edit: a plausible explanation would be that while filming this music video they had a few outtakes and that ended up being our very real piss tape. But even then the room in the music video doesn't match

The women in our tape are nude and pissing. That doesn't sound like an outtake

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

The women in our tape are nude and pissing. That doesn't sound like an outtake

Hey, accidents happen.

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Doctor Candiru posted:

I'm with you on all of that (except getting Dore involved, because he's such a Seth Rich truther that he's basically pro-Trump at this point).

Ok, Aaron Maté then

Both of them believe the dossier is a liberal/centrist/CIA disinformation campaign, but they'd have to explain this clip's existence somehow.

It's helpful that they are not at all cut from the same cloth as the liberal media figures that keep burying this out of decorum, because they are leftists who hate Trump as much as anybody.

Any other leftist media figures would help too though, especially any of them that still believe in Russiagate. Come up with a list.

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Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋
Send it to Jeff Merkley, the senator from Oregon. With a cookie bouquet, else interns are going to toss it.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tape-or-something-close-real-and-putin-likely-has-something-us-1026737

Pooky
Aug 29, 2004

I post fox news so u don't have to 💋
Unless this was one of you, people are still somehow coming across it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bEbRmMdkkQ

This looks like it's the same copy I have on pisstape.org. 25 fps, vertically cropped a little.

e: More
At least some brains are being broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIT5d1XurzU

https://twitter.com/anona99972858/status/1088077273687834625
https://twitter.com/anona99972858/status/1088077181065023488

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Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
^^^^Not me

Hell, if we tweet it at the aforementioned Russiagate skeptics, Maté and Dore, offering the explanation that someone has commissioned a fake and that it's another piece of the Russiagate misdirection to analyze the origins of, who knows where that would lead us. Surely somewhere better than "no one knows about it"

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Pooky posted:

Unless this was one of you, people are still somehow coming across it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bEbRmMdkkQ

This looks like it's the same copy I have on pisstape.org. 25 fps, vertically cropped a little.

e: More
At least some brains are being broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIT5d1XurzU

https://twitter.com/anona99972858/status/1088077273687834625
https://twitter.com/anona99972858/status/1088077181065023488

yessssss u can't stop the flow of piss, u get kidney failure otherwise. it's just science, the piss must flow

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Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
drat, wish that had happened the day before I typed all that poo poo

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