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The Lone Badger posted:More evidence that humans are shoddily designed and there should have been a factory recall eons ago. About every species is like this, humans just now pay enough attention to notice.
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The Lone Badger posted:More evidence that humans are shoddily designed and there should have been a factory recall eons ago. God realized it’s actually cheaper not to recall them and just deal with the occasional lawsuit
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Aug 2, 2019 08:53
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Has someone ever attempted to sue god for, like, *gestures at everything*?
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Aug 2, 2019 10:01
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aphid_licker posted:Has someone ever attempted to sue god for, like, *gestures at everything*? Somebody tried to sue the Devil but the court said they needed a valid address to which to deliver the papers E: and apparently there’s another more recent and vaguely interesting case in which somebody tried to sue God and when the court said they couldn’t serve him with papers the guy said they were denying His omniscience Pirate Radar has a new favorite as of 10:14 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Aug 2, 2019 10:05
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Pirate Radar posted:Somebody tried to sue the Devil but the court said they needed a valid address to which to deliver the papers I just reposted this question in the ask/tell Religion thread, there must've been some medieval guy who got burned at the stake for his trouble who did this.
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Aug 2, 2019 10:26
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Legal arguments with God is pretty much the basis of Judaism from all I gather.
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Aug 2, 2019 10:34
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Ghost Leviathan posted:About every species is like this, humans just now pay enough attention to notice. In the wild things that are defective tend to not survive long enough to get noticed on top of that. If we were still smelly apes living in the trees a collapsed lung was just like "welp, he died. Let's bury him and get on with life." Now that we're smelly apes living in a civilization with medical technology we have the tools to fix a lot of the problems that would normally be a death sentence.
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Aug 2, 2019 12:34
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aphid_licker posted:Has someone ever attempted to sue god for, like, *gestures at everything*? wasn't this an anecdote in one of the Hitchhiker's novels?
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Aug 2, 2019 12:43
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Not an article, but allegedly the quote "Wenn es einen Gott gibt, muß er mich um Verzeihung bitten" (If there is a God, he must ask for my forgiveness) was carved into a wall at the Mauthausen concentration camp. Often mistakenly attributed to Auschwitz, or mistranslated as "beg". Appears to originally be from an Italian documentary about Mauthausen.
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Aug 2, 2019 12:54
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Someone needs to read Will Eisner’s A Contract With God
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Aug 2, 2019 13:33
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Legal arguments with God is pretty much the basis of Judaism from all I gather. Someone described Judaism as rabbis spending millenia rules lawyering their DM, God, into not being such a dick
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Aug 2, 2019 13:35
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ElGroucho posted:Someone described Judaism as rabbis spending millenia rules lawyering their DM, God, into not being such a dick Yeah, if you come at it from the perspective of someone more familiar with Christianity, where trying to pull a fast one on God is definitely bad, you see these elaborate things like Sabbath mode for appliances or eruvin and think, well, isn't it bad to trick God? But the way someone explained it to me is God gave us these big brains and he wants us to use them, so rules-lawyering like that is less of a "defying the almighty" thing and more "clever bastards got me there".
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Aug 2, 2019 13:45
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Yeah, if you come at it from the perspective of someone more familiar with Christianity, where trying to pull a fast one on God is definitely bad, you see these elaborate things like Sabbath mode for appliances or eruvin and think, well, isn't it bad to trick God? But the way someone explained it to me is God gave us these big brains and he wants us to use them, so rules-lawyering like that is less of a "defying the almighty" thing and more "clever bastards got me there". 
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Aug 2, 2019 16:18
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The Judaism arguing thing is summed up pretty well by The Oven of Akhnai that basically boils down to "You stay out of this God, the Torah is a human thing"
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Aug 2, 2019 16:24
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The Lone Badger posted:More evidence that humans are shoddily designed and there should have been a factory recall eons ago.
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Aug 2, 2019 16:39
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Not an article, but allegedly the quote "Wenn es einen Gott gibt, muß er mich um Verzeihung bitten" (If there is a God, he must ask for my forgiveness) was carved into a wall at the Mauthausen concentration camp. Often mistakenly attributed to Auschwitz, or mistranslated as "beg". Appears to originally be from an Italian documentary about Mauthausen. There is a joke I heard that goes: An elderly Holocaust survivor dies and goes to heaven. He meets God and in the course of their conversation tells a Holocaust joke. God is horrified and does not find it funny. The man responds, "Yeah I guess you had to be there."
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The Lone Badger posted:More evidence that humans are shoddily designed and there should have been a factory recall eons ago. The fact that our bodily defence system ejects gross uncomfortable nonsense from our breathing tubes should be proof of this Also the welcome to self-hating judaism you goyim Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 18:19 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Aug 2, 2019 18:17
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Yeah, if you come at it from the perspective of someone more familiar with Christianity, where trying to pull a fast one on God is definitely bad, you see these elaborate things like Sabbath mode for appliances or eruvin and think, well, isn't it bad to trick God? But the way someone explained it to me is God gave us these big brains and he wants us to use them, so rules-lawyering like that is less of a "defying the almighty" thing and more "clever bastards got me there". It's actually really interesting the differences between Christianity and Judaism on a lot of those things. While Christianity is all "ragh ragh sex is bad and sinful and gross" Jews are like "well I mean God made it feel good so He must have intended for us to enjoy it."
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Aug 2, 2019 18:23
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That sex thing is a hold over from when the church decided it needed more land so declared priests unable to get married, right?
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Aug 2, 2019 18:27
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Christians hating homosexuality is taken from the Torah (sorry old testament) and that's hilarious because my judaism and its thousands of years of philosophy take quite the opposite stance. Hashem gave us commandments. We should do the things, but with love and respect for ourselves and our own human happiness, because look at us all posting on this dead gay forum, we are a miracle, that Hashem made. Hashem opposes us hurting ourselves. Being gay (or L or B or T or Q or anything else) and denying it, or being forced to deny it or being persecuted by others, for it, is proven to result in more suffering, not less. Since Hashem made us LGBTQ and Hashem has commanded us that living a full and happy life is the most important commandment, denying one's own self to try and be cis straight is equally as dumb as a starving man in the desert refusing shrimp. Eat the shrimp. Hashem says live and be happy.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:35
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Solice Kirsk posted:That sex thing is a hold over from when the church decided it needed more land so declared priests unable to get married, right? I don't think the church was ever particularly short on land? Clerical celibacy is anyway an almost exclusively Catholic preoccupation.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:58
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aphid_licker posted:Has someone ever attempted to sue god for, like, *gestures at everything*? I would have appreciated in Dogma when Allanis Morisette god is acting all twee and doing a handstand against a tree if someone was like “uh that’s cute but what’s up with the babies born without brains and stuff”
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Aug 2, 2019 19:05
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Look man, God's got a ton of poo poo on their plate what with having to fill the hollow center of the moon with dinosaurs and making sure Disney keeps churning out Marvel movies.
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Aesop Poprock posted:I would have appreciated in Dogma when Allanis Morisette god is acting all twee and doing a handstand against a tree if someone was like “uh that’s cute but what’s up with the babies born without brains and stuff” she wouldn't responded with a raspberry and a tweak to the nose bc the whole point is god is doing their own poo poo and is subsequently inscrutable and unknowable to mortals, and that reads pretty clearly you can't 'gotcha' god dude. i'm not religious but even i picked that up, cmon
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StrangersInTheNight posted:she wouldn't responded with a raspberry and a tweak to the nose bc the whole point is god is doing their own poo poo and is subsequently inscrutable and unknowable to mortals, and that reads pretty clearly but can you gatcha god
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Aesop Poprock posted:I would have appreciated in Dogma when Allanis Morisette god is acting all twee and doing a handstand against a tree if someone was like “uh that’s cute but what’s up with the babies born without brains and stuff” 69"You seem to be posting just fine," Thus spoke the LORD.
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La Brea Carpet posted:There is a joke I heard that goes: Goddamn, loving wrekt
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StrangersInTheNight posted:she wouldn't responded with a raspberry and a tweak to the nose bc the whole point is god is doing their own poo poo and is subsequently inscrutable and unknowable to mortals, and that reads pretty clearly Cool but then wtf use is he
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joxxuh posted:I don't think the church was ever particularly short on land? Clerical celibacy is anyway an almost exclusively Catholic preoccupation. It came from clergy using their social status and the wealth of their churches, parishes, bishoprics, etc. to enrich their families, set up their children in powerful and/or lucrative church positions, and all the other kinds of nepotism that being a powerful person in a highly hierarchical system can get up to when it takes weeks or even months to so much as contact anyone who has even nominal superiority, let alone actually investigate.
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Thanks to this thread, I started reading The Devil in the White City this morning. So goddamn good. Not even that far into it at all (page 80-something), but it's among the best non-fiction I have personally ever encountered. And ya know, I also checked out Isaac's Storm since it came up in the last Devil chat, and i bet it's fuggin good too. Bet that Lusitania one is fire, too. Thank you, thread. Also, libraries are still cool.
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Terra-da-loo! posted:Thanks to this thread, I started reading The Devil in the White City this morning. If you want to continue in that vein with more spooky nonfiction, try The Ghost Map by Steven Johnson. It's about a horrifying epidemic in London and how they figured out where it came from.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Christians hating homosexuality is taken from the Torah (sorry old testament) and that's hilarious because my judaism and its thousands of years of philosophy take quite the opposite stance. I'm an atheist but I like this. I wish more people thought like you.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I'm an atheist but I like this. I wish more people thought like you.
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pookel posted:I'm an atheist too, but it's the Jewish version of God in particular I don't believe in Isn't that just being jewish?
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aphid_licker posted:Has someone ever attempted to sue god for, like, *gestures at everything*? Former Nebraska state legislator Ernie Chambers! quote:
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StrixNebulosa posted:If you want to continue in that vein with more spooky nonfiction, try The Ghost Map by Steven Johnson. It's about a horrifying epidemic in London and how they figured out where it came from. Noted. Without looking it up at all or knowing anything about the book or even what period of history we're talking about, just based on it being London history: I'm gonna guess it had to do with them using the Thames for all matters of waste that existed.
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Probably one of those public taps that thousands of sickly weirdoes shared
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Terra-da-loo! posted:Thanks to this thread, I started reading The Devil in the White City this morning. They are. Erik Larson has the gift of finding a way to make you give a poo poo about things that you don't give a poo poo about.
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Martinpale posted:They are. Erik Larson has the gift of finding a way to make you give a poo poo about things that you don't give a poo poo about. like landscape architecture or the internal politics of the weather bureau.
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christmas boots posted:69"You seem to be posting just fine," gently caress lol
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