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Carbon dioxide posted:Address talk: I thought of that and made sure it was alphanumeric ASCII, I even removed all digits so it was just uppercase and lowercase ASCII letters. it still complained
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Sounds about right. Not directly related, but reading that made me explicitly realize that tweet “threads” are a normal thing these days. Isn’t the concept of a self-reply tweet “thread” antithetical to the original intent of twitter? You can write a whole drat article now and chain it together. Doesn’t that make the character limit essentially artificial?
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Jul 31, 2019 20:12
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Ruggan posted:Sounds about right. The character limit was doubled not too long ago. And it didn't come from an inspired insight into the creativity of restriction, but by SMS-limts. 160 characters minus some required header. Lots of Twitter features are official implementations of emergent user behavior. Retweets used to be just writing RT, then pasting in the username and text yourself. Replies used to not really be replies in any technical sense, at some point they added a tweet belong to another tweet as a reply. Then the concept of twitter threads emerged, then they implemented more stuff around that. They're slowly inventing forums.
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Jul 31, 2019 20:18
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It creates a halting style of conversation but it does encourage having a good hook and making your point clear up front, so I dunno Design decisions are the least of twitter's problems. Unless someone wants to make a horror article about what happens when tweets get mass-reported by bullies, which I'm sure is a hell of a dumb process
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Ola posted:The character limit was doubled not too long ago. And it didn't come from an inspired insight into the creativity of restriction, but by SMS-limts. 160 characters minus some required header. Lots of Twitter features are official implementations of emergent user behavior. Retweets used to be just writing RT, then pasting in the username and text yourself. Replies used to not really be replies in any technical sense, at some point they added a tweet belong to another tweet as a reply. Then the concept of twitter threads emerged, then they implemented more stuff around that. They're slowly inventing forums. What's impressive is that the official implementation of retweets manages to be worse a lot of the time than faking it. Why? It's impossible to link to a retweet. Even if you manually dig out the ID of the retweet, twitter just redirects you to the original tweet. To show a retweet in context you have to take a screenshot.
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Jul 31, 2019 20:35
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Ruggan posted:Did you work at Epic at some point? Because your av black text looks infected. Yeah I was at epic for 5 years and I have a Stockholm fondness for mumps. I work at Apple now though.
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jit bull transpile posted:Japanese addresses are really cool because they're a perfectly orderly hierarchical structure from country to state to city all the way down to the city block, when poo poo gets wild and the building / houses are numbered in order of construction except when they're not and gently caress you figuring out how they're numbered then. i love how perfect this is as a metaphor for anything to do with putting human things into a computer. so nice and clean and logical until a certain point, when you suddenly run into a brick wall of arbitrary and unworkable complexity - which is, it goes without saying, totally different between countries, states, cities, neighborhoods, ... see also: names, dates, times, writing (may god have mercy on the unicode committee)
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redleader posted:i love how perfect this is as a metaphor for anything to do with putting human things into a computer. so nice and clean and logical until a certain point, when you suddenly run into a brick wall of arbitrary and unworkable complexity - which is, it goes without saying, totally different between countries, states, cities, neighborhoods, ... And the first instinct of computer people is "Well, the world will have to change. Hold my soylent, I feel a TED talk coming on." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What3words
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redleader posted:see also: names, dates, times, writing (may god have mercy on the unicode committee) The single biggest book I've ever seen was a hardcopy of the unicode 4.0 standard. I can only imagine that it's gotten worse.
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jit bull transpile posted:Stockholm fondness  IDK if you just made that up but I like it
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The Japanese address system has the important design benefit of being hostile to strangers.
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Any system that's trying to describe reality should have some capability to divert unprocessable input to be handled by a human. Once that's in place, you can then work on incrementally expanding the number of cases that the system can handle correctly.
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Bongo Bill posted:Any system that's trying to describe reality should have some capability to divert unprocessable input to be handled by a human. Once that's in place, you can then work on incrementally expanding the number of cases that the system can handle correctly. Preferably while careening towards a concrete barrier at 80mph on the freeway
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Aug 2, 2019 06:02
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so I've just started a new dev job without being told that the code I'm working on is some special thing from 2007 Developing on your local machine? Who needs that when you can upload all of your code to the server with some absolutely insane node.js script that everyone is expected to have? Want to debug your script, on live? Just mess about with the headers, everything will be fine, I promise! it's Legacy, with a capital L for "leg it"
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Westie posted:so I've just started a new dev job without being told that the code I'm working on is some special thing from 2007 Lol at thinking 2007 is legacy, the core of the product I worked on two jobs ago had code from the 80s, compiled with gcc 2.8 on solaris 7 boxes.
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feedmegin posted:Lol at thinking 2007 is legacy, the core of the product I worked on two jobs ago had code from the 80s, compiled with gcc 2.8 on solaris 7 boxes. There's legacy as in old, and then there's legacy as in shite
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legacy means that it's important but the person who wrote it either isn't here anymore or is impossibly difficult to work with
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Aug 2, 2019 11:05
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New code can be legacy code if it's written badly enough.
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Aug 2, 2019 14:48
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A true 10x developer has the ability to write new code that instantly qualifies as Legacy.
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Aug 2, 2019 15:48
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I've heard it said that legacy code is code that isn't tested.
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Bongo Bill posted:I've heard it said that legacy code is code that isn't tested. It's been tested in the streets.
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Bongo Bill posted:I've heard it said that legacy code is code that isn't tested. I've been told that tests are useless and people should just learn to code. Checkmate.
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Bongo Bill posted:I've heard it said that legacy code is code that isn't tested. I have written legacy code that has 300 pages of manual qa test cases even though we have automated tests and the works - no matter, it's legacy. Legacy just means " I really, really, really don't want to gently caress with this poo poo because people will bitch if I change it."
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Aug 2, 2019 17:52
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What the gently caress, why would anyone ever write legacy code Just don't write it
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Aug 2, 2019 18:39
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I just make sure my code is so bad nobody would ever use it.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I just make sure my code is so bad nobody would ever use it. Job security!
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All code is legacy code. It's the same way that the speed of light is finite so you're always seeing backwards in time.
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you should only write code that will never be used in production
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QuarkJets posted:you should only write code that will never be used in production this is why people will start "replacement" projects for existing products. replacement projects are great because they don't have any users so you can write whatever the hell you want, you don't have to worry about requirements issues because you can point at the legacy project and be like "it should do what this product does, only better", and you can go hog wild on using trendy technologies and making your resume look better so you can jump ship in a couple of years and repeat the process again.
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I wanted to do one of those, a dumber down replacement for SA's forums server, as a backup plan for SA should it go offline but everyone said the job would be much bigger than it looked. I had thought it would be so simple I could roll my own forums engine as long as I migrated over nothing. But I could tell based on everyone else's reactions that it would eat me alive in unexpected ways
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Dumb Lowtax posted:I wanted to do one of those, a dumber down replacement for SA's forums server, as a backup plan for SA should it go offline but everyone said the job would be much bigger than it looked. I had thought it would be so simple I could roll my own forums engine as long as I migrated over nothing. But I could tell based on everyone else's reactions that it would eat me alive in unexpected ways username-post combo
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skull mask mcgee posted:username-post combo Unbelievable
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skull mask mcgee posted:username-post combo Incredible Edit: if you ever do this, please cross post it here
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Volmarias posted:Incredible i have trouble believing dumb lowtax is actually real sometimes - I have tracked his posting gimmick and he posts as if he is a professor of some kind, and that there are students that are subjected to his code - which actually is believable, given my interaction with my undergrad computer science professors. another poster that i had big problems with is unidef freeman, and it made me extremely happy that lowtax came out and said "unidef freeman is insane" because i thought everyone else was just in on the joke, but it turned out he was actually schizophrenic/ other means of completely out of his mind, which was a huge confidence boost, given that he posted a bunch here and people routinely ignored him. this isn't a slight on you, dumb lowtax, if you so happen to read this - i read shsc and i see posters that i remember starting as posters that were having problems getting jobs as programmers and i have witnessed them grow into actual alleged senior developers at some poor company somewhere, and I personally can remember myself going from "oh poo poo, how do i get people to hire me" to designing terrible legacy software and getting paid for it (allegedly, the company i work for could be a yakuza front, but i keep getting paid somehow.) but shine on you crazy diamond.
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:i have trouble believing dumb lowtax is actually real sometimes - I have tracked his posting gimmick and he posts as if he is a professor of some kind, and that there are students that are subjected to his code - which actually is believable, given my interaction with my undergrad computer science professors. Jesus people, the man said he was contemplating writing a forum software and only gave up after you guys yelled at him on how hard it would be. If anything, you should be ashamed of yourselves for your attitude. Given the fact that the large majority of software is written by people that just hit the keyboard with some part of their body and ship it when it compiles , your attitude is that much more shocking. Well done, taking the man down. Volguus fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 3, 2019 |
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Crazy Lowtax, I would post on your crazy forum, albeit crazily.
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Volguus posted:Jesus people, the man said he was contemplating writing a forum software and only gave up after you guys yelled at him on how hard it would be. If anything, you should be ashamed of yourselves for your attitude. Given the fact that the large majority of software is written by people that just hit the keyboard with some part of their body and ship it when it compiles , your attitude is that much more shocking. Well done, taking the man down. when is your replacement forums project starting
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:i have trouble believing dumb lowtax is actually real sometimes - I have tracked his posting gimmick and he posts as if he is a professor of some kind, and that there are students that are subjected to his code - which actually is believable, given my interaction with my undergrad computer science professors. Nice meltdown
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It's just an autodidact developer thrust into responsibility. The only thing is they tend to take their idiosyncratic ways as the one true path, but at least they are able to listen and take feedback. The combination of humility and arrogance is fairly unique, I kind of dig it.
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