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Niwrad posted:Fixing roads creates jobs where workers in turn pay income tax and spend their wages in the state. Also extra revenue from taxes means we don't have to borrow more money at high interest rates to fix essential infrastructure. If a workers wages are paid for through a government contract, it isn't "extra revenue" when they pay income tax on those wages. As far as loans to fix essential infrastructure, infrastructure doesn't crack the list of the most serous financial obligations Illinois has. The cost of dilapidated infrastructure doesn't compare to the hundreds of millions in fees and interest we regularly get dumped on the state by creditors. The most effective way to finance state programs and projects over the long term is for the state to be solvent. If we can get there and still finance these contracts, great. But if it turns out that isn't the case and we end up even more underwater, with the added bonus of not having legalized marijuana and a Chicago casino on the table to actually address the problem in the future, the state is going to be even more hosed than it was before. And we're going to be looking at even more drastic measures that will need to be taken to avoid bankruptcy. I don't give a gently caress if there's no potholes in the roads in a state that has mortgaged its future to do it. There's a crisis to be dealt with that should be front and center in all these discussions.
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It makes me extremely curious if you drive much, or if you happen to live in a place where public transportation actually exists. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that infrastructure is important; when bridges fail, people die. When a pothole busts up a car and that family now has issues getting to and from work and school, that is a cost on the economy as well. The gas tax pays for infrastructure. Legal weed is coming in 6 months, if I understand things correctly. Is there more to be done? Of course there is. But all this poo poo is important, and it looks like we are actually moving in the right direction.
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I drive to work every day. Of course it's important. So was enhancing pension obligations so that government employees could retire comfortably. But in the end those people are gonna get hosed, and the same can be said about the state of Illinois' infrastructure if we try to replace it when we don't have the money. The state has a massive amount of debt, and the worst credit rating in the country. That is going to manifest itself somewhere, whether it be in increased funding towards debt, or decreased funding for programs and projects. In lieu of those, with the kick the can strategy of the last several years, Illinois financial security is going to degrade even further underneath the surface until it forces itself onto the table again. With the scale of the financial disaster we're flirting with, I'll happily hit the pothole. Put some crossed orange flags next to it like they do in Canada and call it a day.
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Volkerball posted:I drive to work every day. Of course it's important. So was enhancing pension obligations so that government employees could retire comfortably. But in the end those people are gonna get hosed, and the same can be said about the state of Illinois' infrastructure if we try to replace it when we don't have the money. The state has a massive amount of debt, and the worst credit rating in the country. That is going to manifest itself somewhere, whether it be in increased funding towards debt, or decreased funding for programs and projects. In lieu of those, with the kick the can strategy of the last several years, Illinois financial security is going to degrade even further underneath the surface until it forces itself onto the table again. With the scale of the financial disaster we're flirting with, I'll happily hit the pothole. Put some crossed orange flags next to it like they do in Canada and call it a day. Fair enough. However, I still think that without infrastructure, you can't really have an economy. It's kinda a death spiral all the way down, but you need to start somewhere. Will the infrastructure projects be enough to start retaining people in the state/pulling more in? I really have no idea. And you're absolutely right about the fact that the can has been kicked continually for the last . . . forever. Maybe I'm just not paying enough attention, but it does seem like we're finally attempting to do Stuff(TM) about Things(c). What is the weed money and the new video gaming bill going to go towards; anything related to our obligations on financial instruments? (Legit curious if it's going to help fund stuff, or just find a way into another dark hole somewhere). Perhaps I'm not being cynical enough by even asking that question 
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Volkerball posted:I drive to work every day. Of course it's important. So was enhancing pension obligations so that government employees could retire comfortably. But in the end those people are gonna get hosed, and the same can be said about the state of Illinois' infrastructure if we try to replace it when we don't have the money. The state has a massive amount of debt, and the worst credit rating in the country. That is going to manifest itself somewhere, whether it be in increased funding towards debt, or decreased funding for programs and projects. In lieu of those, with the kick the can strategy of the last several years, Illinois financial security is going to degrade even further underneath the surface until it forces itself onto the table again. With the scale of the financial disaster we're flirting with, I'll happily hit the pothole. Put some crossed orange flags next to it like they do in Canada and call it a day. if only there were some vast reservoir of money being burned to absolutely no purpose beyond fileted journalists and massacred yemenis, which government could use, to solve this problem
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It depends on who you ask when it comes to the financing of the debt and Illinois' long term financial picture. I know the bonds that were sold recently are supposed to go towards the debt, and some Republicans said the budget was balanced, but we got here with bipartisan gently caress you's, so I don't put much stock in that. It's a minefield because you can make minimum payments and say everything is fully funded when behind the scenes, the interest is growing at a higher rate than the budget. I don't know if that's the case, but I don't know it's not the case either. I'm cautiously optimistic, and if everything goes the way Dems are framing it, JB has my vote for president. But if this all turns out to be a web of lies, and he winds up being at the tip of a big corruption scandal, we're turbo hosed. Until then, I don't think we can judge it without the benefit of hindsight.
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The city has to come up with an additional 2b in revenue by 2023 to make up for the near 1b budget gap it has + 1b more pension funding as the ramp steepens It can't do a city income tax without a constitutional amendment via the legislature The options seem to be 1) state takes over pensions since if they default the state is liable anyways. Jb doesn't want this 2) service tax on lawyers/accountants, maybe transaction tax too 3) property taxes jump again 4) the southwest runs out of water and our population doubles and all is well
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https://twitter.com/danlipinski/status/1146194817266925569?s=21 Please donate to Marie Newman
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Badger of Basra posted:https://twitter.com/danlipinski/status/1146194817266925569?s=21 Lmao He's wearing New Balance, the official shoe of white supremacists.
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TMMadman posted:He's wearing New Balance, the official shoe of white supremacists. 
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dwarf74 posted:Also, unfortunately, the official shoe of people with extremely wide feet who no other shoe company makes shoes for Or those who think its 'buying American' (even though its made in the Marshall Islands with exploited labor via a loophole lol).
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dwarf74 posted:Also, unfortunately, the official shoe of people with extremely wide feet who no other shoe company makes shoes for Skechers has a whole "wide" lineup of footwear.
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Jows posted:Skechers has a whole "wide" lineup of footwear. Sketchers are cheap trash that fall apart within six months though.
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Jows posted:Skechers has a whole "wide" lineup of footwear. Unfortunately NB is the only one you can normally find in stores. I have fat, mutant feet, and the last time I was at a professional shoe store the clerk was like "okaaay.... wow..." Ordering shoes online is simply impossible for me. Fuckin a, I do not want to give that new balance fucker a dime of my money, but also I have to wear shoes for the times I can't wear sandals (which are awesome and extremely adjustable).
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dwarf74 posted:Most shoe lines do. I mean it's not like New Balance the company is responsible or endorsing white supremacists. It's just that moron white supremacists adopted NB shoes for whatever reason since Nike was supporting Kaepernick. At least that is my understanding of the situation.
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TMMadman posted:I mean it's not like New Balance the company is responsible or endorsing white supremacists. It's just that moron white supremacists adopted NB shoes for whatever reason since Nike was supporting Kaepernick. Cuz they're made in 'Murica.
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Oracle posted:Cuz they're made in 'Murica. *America
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Oracle posted:Cuz they're made in 'Murica.
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Have discovered that Brooks is a perfectly good replacement for super wide foot having people.
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Well, the chuds in Southern Illinois have found their newest thing to get pissed about. It originally started about the DuQuoin State Fair removing Confederate Railroad from their line up this year. (Somehow connected to Capitol Fax getting it removed due to their use of the flag of traitors) Then it connected that with the Illinois State Fair still having Snoop Dogg perform even though one of his albums has a picture of a dead body with Trump written on the body tag. For as much as liberals get called snowflakes, there is some drat mighty melting people on the other side.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Well, the chuds in Southern Illinois have found their newest thing to get pissed about. 
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Confederate railroads were poorly run and barely used, why would anyone name a band - oh right, racism.
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https://capitolfax.com/2019/07/31/a..._medium=twitter Lol Amara quote:Two dozen ex-employees of former Chicago mayoral candidate Amara Enyia filed a wage theft grievance on Monday, accusing Enyia and her top staffers of owing them thousands of dollars in unpaid wages. https://twitter.com/paschutz/status/1156289927950348288?s=20 quote:The Tribune reported Enyia did not report to the IRS $21,000 paid to her by Chris Kennedy’s governor campaign, for which she worked as a consultant for several months. Enyia called it an oversight.
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TMMadman posted:Shouldn't they arrest all Teamsters for doing little to no work? doing that tends to increase the frequency with which your stuff falls off trucks. there's a great Dollop episode on Moving Day in New York. it turns out that the guys who move your stuff from point A to point B are in a very good position to make your life hell if you do not play nice!
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drat I wish it was the other cullerton
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John is Tom's cousin Also John's lawyer is married to a supreme Court Justice
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Dexo posted:
wait so she essentially funneled salaries supposed to go to her campaign workers to her sister?
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